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CaptainToo

Well-Known Member
Uber drivers need to form state associations to lobby your state government to put into state law protections that Uber drivers need, such as the driver should always receive standard time/distance or 70% of the rider payment, whichever is greater.

Uber and Lyft will never give it to us, we need to use the power of local government to protect ourselves, as other workers have done for 100 years
 

rubisgsa

Active Member
Greatest economic times since the 80s. If you are not happy with your financial situation now, you are likely to be very disappointed in the future.



are you out of your mind>>>>?????


For who corporate america???

CRAZY PEOPLE
 
Because when many of us started it was a basic 75%/80% to the drivers and Uber/Lyft kept 20-25% depending on your start date.

Then Uber/Lyft got greedy and changed the contract to @@@@ drivers and make more. They lied and said "your earnings shouldn't change" but they did.

Before you chime in with the "if it's so bad then quit" drivel or something similar, I do it part-time and have still figured out ways to make it work.

It's still galling to see and know what I would've made before.
I get it. I've read it before...again and again. Rates used to be better. Uber sucks. Drivers commit suicide. Etc etc.

I realize there's no place for tough love on this forum of kvetching, but Larry Bird is not walking through that door, fans. The old rates are probably not returning. I focus on what I made per ride, not what Uber made. I realize I'm in the minority and branded an enemy of the realm.
 

RobGMPLS

Member
Uber drivers need to form state associations to lobby your state government to put into state law protections that Uber drivers need, such as the driver should always receive standard time/distance or 70% of the rider payment, whichever is greater.

Uber and Lyft will never give it to us, we need to use the power of local government to protect ourselves, as other workers have done for 100 years
Terrible idea. First, regulating how a company chooses to pay their workforce is socialism. Please stop.

Second, we are either free independent contractors or employees, but you can’t have it both ways. They can change the terms of the contract if they want- they don’t owe you anything. If you don’t like it no one is forcing you to drive. They have to turn a profit, and as long as there are enough drivers to cover demand it makes sense for them to decrease pay. I dont like it, but I at least understand why it has to be this way.

No one ever comments on the benefits of being your own boss and flexibility, but I hear plenty of complaints from people who apparently want to be treated as employees.

Believe me, you DONT want to have unions taking fees, formal employment infrastructure, or state regulators interfering with this model.

HR, management, employment infrastructure all costs money. Where do you think this would come from? UBER isn’t coughing it up, so it would be right out of our pockets.

It would only get worse if there is even less to go around, and thinking the state governments could act competently to manage pay/employment relationships is laughable. You obviously have never seen how dysfunctional and inept state governments are.
 

Ubermcbc

Well-Known Member
How does this make you guys feel? Would you be happy with it or bitter about the cut? I’m personally very conflicted.
I guarantee you it's been adjusted only on your side. Pax has no idea since there is no refund on their side. Highway robbery.
 

wicked

Well-Known Member
Here we go again. The poor disdain socialism. Companies live and die by government policies. Fortunes are made and lost on government policy.


Don't kid yourself. Socialism for the rich capitalism for the poor. It's sad that so many people 'self made' themselves into poverty.
 

Dome

Active Member
I see so many posters focused on how much uber takes of the total cost to the passenger. Who cares? Passengers see the price up front and agree to it. I know it's hard for us peons to imagine, but some passengers are rich. Or convenience means more than money. Or their company is picking up the tab.

The OP made $144 for an hour ride (even if it's a deadhead back it's $144 for two hours). OK Nancies, subtract your gas, depreciation, brakes, insurance, cost of being a bitter driver, etc. That's still a pretty good day for a lot of people, no?
Drivers who have been around long enough know that Uber getting approx a 42% cut of the passenger fare is robbery. What did they do to warrant that? Yes drivers agreed to flat fares, but it wasn't necessarily willingly. There was no negotiations, only a new agree or don't drive again amendment sent out probably during a Friday afternoon rush hour (seems like it usually happens then) when drivers are looking to make money. These amendments to rate changes can easily be given days in advance for drivers to have time to accept or decline, but that's their game of control.
 

djfx

Member
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Terrible idea. First, regulating how a company chooses to pay their workforce is socialism. Please stop.

Second, we are either free independent contractors or employees, but you can’t have it both ways. They can change the terms of the contract if they want- they don’t owe you anything. If you don’t like it no one is forcing you to drive. They have to turn a profit, and as long as there are enough drivers to cover demand it makes sense for them to decrease pay. I dont like it, but I at least understand why it has to be this way.

No one ever comments on the benefits of being your own boss and flexibility, but I hear plenty of complaints from people who apparently want to be treated as employees.

Believe me, you DONT want to have unions taking fees, formal employment infrastructure, or state regulators interfering with this model.

HR, management, employment infrastructure all costs money. Where do you think this would come from? UBER isn’t coughing it up, so it would be right out of our pockets.

It would only get worse if there is even less to go around, and thinking the state governments could act competently to manage pay/employment relationships is laughable. You obviously have never seen how dysfunctional and inept state governments are.
Every single paragraph here made me LUL
 

Roadmasta

Well-Known Member
I had a fare cut by surge accepted 2.8 they paid 2.1, that said customer made request with earlier surge. I said not my problem. They stopped responding to my inquires after about ten messages. These companies need to be regulated big time. No accountability to anyone but themselves. I told them in my last message, you pay now or you will pay later! I cancel anytime I think a ride will not be profitable. Just make up any excuse and cancel. I shuffle more than ever before and bad mouth Uber every chance I get.
 

RoyalTee85

Active Member
Worst market in Cali, Modesto
Geez....I'm in DC market thinking about switching to LA market
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How does this make you guys feel? Would you be happy with it or bitter about the cut? I’m personally very conflicted.
This was actually an adjustment to your benefit but they still raped you in fees.
 
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Dome

Active Member
Terrible idea. First, regulating how a company chooses to pay their workforce is socialism. Please stop.

Second, we are either free independent contractors or employees, but you can’t have it both ways. They can change the terms of the contract if they want- they don’t owe you anything. If you don’t like it no one is forcing you to drive. They have to turn a profit, and as long as there are enough drivers to cover demand it makes sense for them to decrease pay. I dont like it, but I at least understand why it has to be this way.

No one ever comments on the benefits of being your own boss and flexibility, but I hear plenty of complaints from people who apparently want to be treated as employees.

Believe me, you DONT want to have unions taking fees, formal employment infrastructure, or state regulators interfering with this model.

HR, management, employment infrastructure all costs money. Where do you think this would come from? UBER isn’t coughing it up, so it would be right out of our pockets.

It would only get worse if there is even less to go around, and thinking the state governments could act competently to manage pay/employment relationships is laughable. You obviously have never seen how dysfunctional and inept state governments are.
You're not your own boss driving for Uber or Lyft. You control nothing but when you accept trips, that's not being a boss. These companies Dictate all the terms and process background checks like any other company that hires employees. They can terminate you like an employee, yet claim they're just a booking company matching independent drivers with riders. Idk how the IRS has allowed them to classify themselves in this manner thus far given they clearly advertise themselves, negotiate with Airport Authorities, local municipalities, etc as a transportation company.
 

charmer37

Well-Known Member
That’s the graduate school.
Because when many of us started it was a basic 75%/80% to the drivers and Uber/Lyft kept 20-25% depending on your start date.

Then Uber/Lyft got greedy and changed the contract to @@@@ drivers and make more. They lied and said "your earnings shouldn't change" but they did.

Before you chime in with the "if it's so bad then quit" drivel or something similar, I do it part-time and have still figured out ways to make it work.

It's still galling to see and know what I would've made before.



Well done

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The rates was real good back in 2014 when i started and was fair in 2016 when I stopped driving, It was a hell of part time job during those days.
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You're not your own boss driving for Uber or Lyft. You control nothing but when you accept trips, that's not being a boss. These companies Dictate all the terms and process background checks like any other company that hires employees. They can terminate you like an employee, yet claim they're just a booking company matching independent drivers with riders. Idk how the IRS has allowed them to classify themselves in this manner thus far given they clearly advertise themselves, negotiate with Airport Authorities, local municipalities, etc as a transportation company.
That’s real talk!
 
How does this make you guys feel? Would you be happy with it or bitter about the cut? I’m personally very conflicted.
I'd say that's still pretty good pay even though Uber took more than they should be...What was your avg. speed on the highway? Total rounds up to about 60mph but I don't imagine the entire ride was on the highway.
 

ANT 7

Well-Known Member
Uber drivers need to form state associations to lobby your state government to put into state law protections that Uber drivers need, such as the driver should always receive standard time/distance or 70% of the rider payment, whichever is greater.

Uber and Lyft will never give it to us, we need to use the power of local government to protect ourselves, as other workers have done for 100 years
You drove for 56 minutes and received $143 ? Is that correct ?

I'll take that trip all day long. Even splitting it in half to account for deadheading it back is worth it.
 
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