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Why UZURV will fail

Discussion in 'Advice' started by johnydynamic, May 2, 2018.

  1. johnydynamic

    johnydynamic New Member

    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    As many if not all of you know, UZURV is an app that works in tandem with Uber and Lyft that enables passengers to pre-arrange rides with the drivers of their choice.

    I firmly believe that UZURV, as is, will fail.

    Why?

    1. They are not partnered or affiliated with Uber or Lyft. This is why they don’t advertise other than to drivers, and their message is essentially “promote us”. They cannot meaningfully advertise to the riding public because they can’t use the words Uber or Lyft.

    2. Their model for airport pickups is untenable. The driver is supposed to park somewhere near the airport ( but NOT in the TNC zone) and somehow receive the request from their intended passenger among all of the request traffic that flies around near the airport. The passenger then has to meet the driver at some prearranged spot. Compare this to the standard user experience (which I do several times each week) wherein I get my bags, go to the curb, request a ride, wait a brief time, and off I go.

    3. No one is using this app. Look at the number of reviews for the driver and passenger apps. I’ve been signed up with UZURV for several weeks. In that time, exactly one ride has come through in the feed.

    IMO UZURV is a waste of memory on your phone. I’m keeping the app for a while just to see if my belief is accurate.

    Make money. Be safe.
     
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  2. oldfart

    oldfart Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Fort Myers
    Driving:
    UberXL
    Instead of an app I give my customers my business card.
     
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  3. Coachman

    Coachman Well-Known Member

    Location:
    DFW
    Driving:
    UberX
    I've gotten a few requests through third party services. They never indicate what company they're associated with. I suppose there could be some decent money to be made charging these customers what they're actually willing to pay.
     
  4. Cableguynoe

    Cableguynoe Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Monterey Bay
    It will fail because if it ever did become popular. Uber and/or Lyft can just add those options and crush them like the cockroaches that they are.
     
  5. JMlyftuber

    JMlyftuber Well-Known Member

    Location:
    St. Pete
    Driving:
    UberX
    I don't understand how it works... Does it spoof gps to make you look like the closest driver? Wouldn't be long before u/l refuses to match and possibly deactivates the driver.
     
  6. Julescase

    Julescase Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    What exactly is this service? I'm curious - I've never heard of it before and I don't understand how it would be able to function smoothly side-by-side with U/L.

    Has anyone here used it successfully? Any stories? Interesting anecdotes?
     
  7. sirius black

    sirius black Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    It basically “brokers” pre-arranged rides. Pax put in their to/fr info, drivers input their desire to take the ride, Pax selects what driver/platform they want, off-line arrangements are made, driver parks in front of address and waits for ping. Pure joy ensues as pax/driver have a match made in heaven.
    I deleted the App after 6 months of no activity. There was a driver around these parts that had his car all blinged out w/ their logo pasted everywhere on it. Guess it’s better than having Lyftshyts thrown all over it. (Rakos, you’re up ;))
     
  8. johnydynamic

    johnydynamic New Member

    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    The basic premise is this:
    - Riders wanting to pre-schedule a ride post the info, both pickup area and drop off area, on the app. They can include an “incentive”, ie a tip.
    - Drivers who are willing to do the ride reply and are added to a list from which the rider can choose.
    - The chosen driver shows up, does the up-close ping dance with the rider, and then takes them to their destination through the Uber or Lyft app.
    This may work for people who live in the middle of nowhere who need transportation to a distant airport or similar destination, but makes no sense for anyone living in an area serviced by Lyft or Uber. It’s especially ridiculous when airport pickups are thrown into the mix. UZURV’s answer to this is literally what I’ve detailed in my original post. No one will do that. Ever.
     
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  9. MHR

    MHR Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Texas
    The problem I have with Uzurv is it's one more entity profiting off of drivers with drivers doing all the work.

    I thought it would be helpful but honestly it's just as easy to have someone tell you what time they'd like to go somewhere, arrange to be nearby and then take their ping. Why should I give Uzurv a share of that fee when I can do the exact same thing on my own.

    I've only gotten one ride request through the app in 6 months. It isn't used much in my territory and I don't feel like handing out promotional materials to all my pax. I don't have the time nor money to promote another's company.
     
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  10. Wonkytonk

    Wonkytonk Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Out & About
    Said Lyft, and Uber every minute of every day until they actually started doing it and found out they were right.
     
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  11. Trafficat

    Trafficat Moderator Moderator

    Location:
    Reno, NV
    I used it to do a couple of rides. Good in theory, but as others said, not enough ride volume.
     
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  12. sirius black

    sirius black Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    The *only* advantages are that the Pax can select the car/driver, and the driver knows they’re getting a scheduled ride they want to give. Both Pax and driver pay a fee for this awesome service (IIRC). If there ever was a repeat customer advantage, Uber would be happy to take care of that by stepping in and deactivating the driver for breaking TOS.
     
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  13. #professoruber

    #professoruber Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lot A @ DFW
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    I have always thought this app was a great idea not just to reserve rides, but to reserve a specific driver. However, the one thing that this has in common with Uber/Lyft are the cheap riders that don't see the value in this service and the added cost involved to fulfill a reservation. Driver has dead miles coming to you and has to go offline to fulfill the reservation.

    The main benefit of this app is to get rides in rural areas during times when Uber/Lyft riders are not available.

    I see so many rides coming across with $0 incentive which the app defaults to $3 . That tells me that rider is cheap and had to manually change that amount.

    The main issue is that when riders start to feel comfortable with a dependable driver, the question is always asked if the reservation has to go through the app. This is UZURV's main failure as these riders will eventually jump ship and simply contact drivers directly.

    I use it mainly to start my day which I use my filter to get where I need to be so I can fulfill the reservation. It's been mixed results with dead miles resulting in little gain expect a ride where I know the pickup and destination.
     
  14. Wonkytonk

    Wonkytonk Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Out & About
    So how do they make money at this? I suspect they can't interject themselves between uber and your pay from them, so where do they get their percentage, the customer?

    I can't see this being all that popular. About the only people that would be interested in this are the paranoid riders who don't trust prescheduling with either app.
     
  15. oldfart

    oldfart Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Fort Myers
    Driving:
    UberXL
    The idea or a passenger being able to choose their driver is a good one, especially if they want me
     
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  16. JMlyftuber

    JMlyftuber Well-Known Member

    Location:
    St. Pete
    Driving:
    UberX
    Yeah i can just imagine the rider using this... Lauren Bacall wannabe, yelling the whole way "don't go too fast! Watch out when you turn! Oh god you're going to take advantage of me, aren't you?! Thank you for not killing me, here have a peppermint young man!" Or a man... Ride to McDonald's "let's have breakfast, my treat, and talk business. I need someone reliable to take me to church and the doctor 3x/week. I'll make it worth your while, $5 each if you'll do it off app. I'll even throw in an extra $5 to help me shop at Walmart!"
     
  17. MHR

    MHR Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Texas
    Both the driver and rider are charged a fee, by Uzurv, per ride booked/accepted.
     
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  18. Wonkytonk

    Wonkytonk Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Out & About
    Seems like double dipping to me. How does the driver pay? Do drivers have an account with a debit/credit card associated with it?

    I already feel as though I'm being raped by uber and lyft taking 25% for what they shouldn't get more than 10% for, actually considering the way they're overcharging riders we shouldn't be charged a penny, so this for Uzurv is a no can do for me.
     
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  19. MHR

    MHR Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Texas
    Yes, you have to link debit/credit card to your driver account.

    They are also very strict about if you have to cancel a pre-planned ride and charging you a fee for that (as a driver).
     
  20. backcountryrez

    backcountryrez Well-Known Member

    Location:
    VA
    Driving:
    Lyft
    I used it until recently because of this experience:

    1) Rider requests ride on app
    2) I opted to take it
    3) Rider selects me to fulfill request
    4) Rider then messages me that they are on Wi-Fi where they work and when they leave they won't have it, could I have their phone number instead so they can text me when they're ready.
    5) I message rider back inquiring as to how they're going to use the Uber app to request the ride if their phone won't have access to internet services.
    6) Rider writes back assuming that UZURV handles the ride aspect.
    7) I cancelled the reservation.

    I see that their website is pretty unclear about themselves NOT being a TNC, but merely a ride broker. I live in the home of UZURV, therefore it's used pretty extensively here.
     
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