Why no access to the bases?

Shakenama

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Okay... I've been working the Southside these past few days (avoiding HU for a while) and have had to drop Pax off at Norfolk Naval Shipyard and NOB at the gates.
Both deny access for UBER, however I can get on at Ft Eustis easily (with a vehicle search).

Question.... Is it because of fees or because of the way UBER conducts background checks?

Are active duty who drive as an Uber driver part time able to access the bases with military ID? (even though I heard that's a nono)

If I was a regular ordinary driver dropping off a active duty friend, they'd search the vehicle, log down my drivers license and tags, give me a temporary pass and be on my merry way. WTH?
 
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Shakenama

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Cool...So you just confirmed my suspicions. On the Hampton FB page there's a couple of drivers who are active duty who have no problems either. Taxis get waved on as well.
So I'm guessing a regular Uber driver civilian cannot get on base due to the background checks that Uber does.
 

Jacky.C

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Whoever can't get on base just simply because they don't have the proper ID (Active/Reserve/Retired/Spouses/Contractor...etc)...not because they are Uber drivers...:wink:
 

Jacky.C

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You can go to the pass office and see if you can obtain a base access card. *Background checks may take a long time tho*
 

Mr. T

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Not saying you should, but if you were to get your story straight with your passenger, then remove your decal you can get on. *as long as they have base access
 

forqalso

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My friend, who is a Federal law enforcement officer on a Navy base says it is because the military believes Uber cars to be un-metered cabs. No running fare amount, only at the end.
 

Shakenama

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Was able to access Little Creek Amphibious Base yesterday. Didn't mention to the gate guard that I was Uber. Just showed my license and my Pax military ID (which I put on top of my license). Guard looked at them both, looked at me and my pax (who was siting in the back seat) scanned his ID, and said "Welcome to Little Creek Anphib Base" and handed back out id's.
 

MrsUberJax

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You need a Rapid I.D. to get on to base. (Unless you are active military or are escorted by a service member) You can get one from Security on Base. Just bring them your business license and your commercial insurance, they will run a background check and issue a Rapid I.D to the owner of the company.
 

Trying in Norfolk

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So I talked to the Provost Marshall/Matser Arms. I am retired Army but am here because my wife is navy. What I have been told is that "you cannot use a military ID or and retired or dependent ID for use of a business or profit."
Also, the cab companies have contracts for access with the bases. Uber does not. Therefor, Uber drivers do not have access. I have been told that getting caught using your ID can result in a few things:
For active memebers - you could get in major trouble resulting in UCMJ punishment
For dependent a and retirees you could lose your base access privileges.

Now I have on occasion use my ID to get on post. I get around this a few ways
1. When you are going to pick someone up you have not yet started a fare and therefor by law (after talking with PM/MA) are not acting as an Uber driver unless you have someone in your car.
2. I just cut the loss and complete the job at the gate. Then I just become a guy that is taking military people home so they do not drive drunk. Once back off base I simply contact uber through the app about that job and tell them I ended it early and give them the correct end point. That way they adjust it to the correct payment. (I always inform the service memebers what I am doing and why. Most do not care and are even appalled we have to go through so much to get them home safe.)

Let me know if you have any questions
Thanks
 

taxilady1

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Okay... I've been working the Southside these past few days (avoiding HU for a while) and have had to drop Pax off at Norfolk Naval Shipyard and NOB at the gates.
Both deny access for UBER, however I can get on at Ft Eustis easily (with a vehicle search).

Question.... Is it because of fees or because of the way UBER conducts background checks?

Are active duty who drive as an Uber driver part time able to access the bases with military ID? (even though I heard that's a nono)

If I was a regular ordinary driver dropping off a active duty friend, they'd search the vehicle, log down my drivers license and tags, give me a temporary pass and be on my merry way. WTH?
When I drove for Kate's Taxi (my own company), I had to get a Contractor's Permit from the main base in Norfolk. It cost, at the time, about $150.00, but it allowed me to get on any base. It made its cost dozens of times. A sound investment. I will be making the same investment with Uber.
 

taxilady1

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I just checked on the interwebs and, according to a Virginian Pilot story from a couple of years back, the fee should be $199 per year for RAPIDgate contractor ID. I'll be checking with them this week. Again, it sounds like a lot, but with the number of Military bases in Tidewater, it pays for itself over and over and over again. Love those kids! "Where do you want to go, guys?" "HOOTERS, MA'AM!"

UPDATE:

I am told that at this time Uber and Lyft drivers cannot be issued a RAPIDgate card. Darn.
 
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Trying in Norfolk

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I am a retiree that drives for uber. I get access by simply using my military ID. I know that you are not supposed to, but I don't care. I feel like f I was just coming to pick up a friend that would get me on base why should this be different.
I have been told by the provost Marshall (who controls the gates) that it is a contract issue. They will not issue rapid gate to uber drivers. Really what it comes down to is politics. The cab conpanies have contracts with the base.
They have basically blocked uber from getting on.
I have no problems with any other base. Other than NOB Norfolk.
 

Texas70Tornado

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So I am heading to Newport News, Va. to see my son graduate from his AIT in Fort Eustis, Va., When I get ahold of an UBER driver do I have to tell them I need someone with a Military ID??
 

Uber DJ

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I agree with Trying in Norfolk on the "work around" and I use the same process.

As for not allowing uber drivers that do not have a military ID onboard....matter of security....and I can tell you as a military member if my uber driver does not have a military ID I will be dropped off at the gate - if I "escort" that driver onboard the base I am responsible for them, even after I get out of the car. There is nothing that says the driver will immediately leave the base and God forbid something happens...
 

Uber DJ

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And more information regarding using your drivers license to access military installations...check to see if you state drivers license is RealID compliant...if not then you may not be able to access the base even with military folks in your car.

I am not allowed to the post the link so you can google RealID compliant states (it will be found on a DHS.gov website)
 

Sub Guy

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So I am heading to Newport News, Va. to see my son graduate from his AIT in Fort Eustis, Va., When I get ahold of an UBER driver do I have to tell them I need someone with a Military ID??
While UBER does have a database of who can access the military bases, I am not sure you can tell them you need a driver who can get on base. They typically will only route a pickup call that originates on base to a member with base access. I don't think they apply the same filter to the destinations.

My recommendation is to check with your son. You can not be the only "civilian" looking to attend the ceremony. Depending on the base, they sometimes have a list of names at the gate, or call to have a command van pick you up at the gate, etc. .......
 
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