When at the Pig Pen, what do you do with the Non Terminal ride requests?

UberIsAllFubared

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I drive LAX all the time, probably do at least 3 rides a day, and sometimes as many as 8/9. What do others do when you are at the Pig Pen/LAX area and you get ride requests from outside the terminals? I have gotten ride requests from 96th street, Century Blvd, the hotels, and today some pizza place (WTF). Almost all the time I just let them time out. (I hate it when I forget I let something time out before I got to LAX and my first request is a non terminal ping, cause then I get a Uber Time Out and get sent to the back of the bus.

I know Jbeck recently had a great long ride outside of the terminals, but was this a unicorn, or is it more common than I think?

My thinking is, I am at the airport, I am on incentive, I want to shoot for a nice long ride like Carona, Chino Hills, or Irvine (got one of those today). Yes, a good chunk are too Santa Monica, Venice, and the Marina, but even the Marina isn't bad as I can hustle back to LAX pretty fast.

I just think its too much of a gamble to take a non terminal ride. I have already committed a significant amount of time sitting in the Pig Pen, so if I take that ride from the Hilton, and its going to a terminal on the airport, I may actually kill the passenger. :biggrin: I figure at best, a Hotel passenger is going to either Hollywood (which I hate driving in) or Santa Monica, and both are a pain in the ass to get to. Its either Lincoln or La Cienega, and I hate both of those streets. I just don't see any upside in Non terminal runs.
 

Jbeck

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I also picked up on 98th street and guy was going to Disneyland hotel. Another at the rental car place on century and they were going to Hollywood. But I have also picked up on century and they were going to Manhattan Beach, once to frigin in n Out. So it's a Crap shoot. But I have never not once picked up and going to a terminal but maybe I was lucky.
 

mandreyka

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I don't like taking outside the airport pings. If in on my 3rd ping I will take it and call to see where they are going. If it's a ride I want I take it.

Last time I was at LAX I was getting a ping in century. Called and pax said she was going to enterprise rent a car.

Told her to please cancel because uber messed up and I was already on a another request. She said "oh I'm sorry " and canceled. Next ping was from the airport.

There could be some good ones , but call first
 

Maga&dan

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Once, at 5 am Sunday I got pickup a man without luggage from corner of Century and Sepulveda. I thought it is a local. No, it was Laguna Niguel. Wow. I wasn't sure if it is good for me (after whole night shift) go to totally opposite direction from my home (Woodland hills). I took it(greedy). Few block away from drop off I got a ping. It was a local trip. BUT before I finished this local I got another ping: 1.5 surge back to LAX. I arrived to LAX at 7:10am with $145 payout. Highest per hour achievement ever happened to me.

Few days ago picked up guy from Hertz. He went to Disneyland Hotel. Before arrival got ping from same hotel going 1/3 way backward.

I have had many times pickups from LAX as short as hotels on Century Blvd. and opposite direction too, despite all this hotels running shuttle buses.
LAX like casino. Generally, I'm not happy to go there, but go there anyway to check my luck. Standstill traffic there may reduce significantly your per hour earning in certain hours.
 

UberIsAllFubared

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LAX is only good if you are on incentive or Surge (but those are the only things I drive anyway). I guess after reading some of the comments I may start taking some of the Non Terminal rides, especially if the terminal traffic is hellish.


Oh, but I am not taking a pool request from non terminals.



Uber, if you are reading these threads, why don't you give us non terminal pings right away, in other words, to the drivers just getting to the LAX area, instead of us waiting for the queue? Once you are in the queue, the last thing you want is a super shortie putzing around LAX. It might make me want to take the ride more, if I have a choice of taking a non terminal request right away as opposed to waiting in queue for 25 minutes.
 

second2noone

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it's a real crap shoot. Can be a ride to terminal, car rental, hotel, etc. anywhere really short.

taxi's would never do these rides.
 

second2noone

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I drive LAX all the time, probably do at least 3 rides a day, and sometimes as many as 8/9. What do others do when you are at the Pig Pen/LAX area and you get ride requests from outside the terminals? I have gotten ride requests from 96th street, Century Blvd, the hotels, and today some pizza place (WTF). Almost all the time I just let them time out. (I hate it when I forget I let something time out before I got to LAX and my first request is a non terminal ping, cause then I get a Uber Time Out and get sent to the back of the bus.

I know Jbeck recently had a great long ride outside of the terminals, but was this a unicorn, or is it more common than I think?

My thinking is, I am at the airport, I am on incentive, I want to shoot for a nice long ride like Carona, Chino Hills, or Irvine (got one of those today). Yes, a good chunk are too Santa Monica, Venice, and the Marina, but even the Marina isn't bad as I can hustle back to LAX pretty fast.

I just think its too much of a gamble to take a non terminal ride. I have already committed a significant amount of time sitting in the Pig Pen, so if I take that ride from the Hilton, and its going to a terminal on the airport, I may actually kill the passenger. :biggrin: I figure at best, a Hotel passenger is going to either Hollywood (which I hate driving in) or Santa Monica, and both are a pain in the ass to get to. Its either Lincoln or La Cienega, and I hate both of those streets. I just don't see any upside in Non terminal runs.
yeah those rides are nice, but the dead miles are a killer. especially also if you need rides, the long rides can be a killer too.
 

UberIsAllFubared

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If you are on incentive, I don't really consider the dead miles to be killer. For Instance, yesterday I got an LAX to Irvine during Rush Hour at 1.8x incentive (damn it hurts only being gold and not platinum). Trip took 90 minutes, and I made $67. Took me 45 minutes to dead mile it back to LAX, so in total, I made $29 an hour for the trip. I get to write off the dead miles too. No way I work the airport without incentive or surge.
 

second2noone

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If you are on incentive, I don't really consider the dead miles to be killer. For Instance, yesterday I got an LAX to Irvine during Rush Hour at 1.8x incentive (damn it hurts only being gold and not platinum). Trip took 90 minutes, and I made $67. Took me 45 minutes to dead mile it back to LAX, so in total, I made $29 an hour for the trip. I get to write off the dead miles too. No way I work the airport without incentive or surge.
I've done those trips before. I rather not do the dead miles and the long drives all for 1 ride. I would rather do like 4-6 rides for that amount and stay in or near core. I know you can't choose where pax go but rather do this than a long one way out of core.
 

second2noone

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you should be, but still get those annoying requests. They come at the worst times like if I avoid 1 more request then I get a timeout.
 

Breezze

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you should be, but still get those annoying requests. They come at the worst times like if I avoid 1 more request then I get a timeout.
Maybe you should contact them and ask them where are they going. If it is somewhere not worth it just said you are only picking up from Terminal and have them cancel the trip. They should not be charge and you are back to the front of the queue.
 

UberIsAllFubared

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I've done those trips before. I rather not do the dead miles and the long drives all for 1 ride. I would rather do like 4-6 rides for that amount and stay in or near core. I know you can't choose where pax go but rather do this than a long one way out of core.
Yeah I am the exact opposite. I Would much rather drive on the freeway (yeah I know I am crazy) for a long trip rather than do 6 shorties. This is why I hate going from the airport to either Santa Monica (stuck on Lincoln) or Weho/hollywood (stuck on La Cienega). For me, the pickup is the most annoying aspect of the job which there are a litany of reasons for, so I would much rather do a nice long ride on the freeway rather than a bunch of short city street rides. Now, if its late at night and the streets are clear, this can be a different story.
 

second2noone

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Maybe you should contact them and ask them where are they going. If it is somewhere not worth it just said you are only picking up from Terminal and have them cancel the trip. They should not be charge and you are back to the front of the queue.
yeah i generally call but you are not always sent to front of queue. gotta love fuber
 

UberIsAllFubared

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There is an alternative to ignoring that 3rd non terminal ride request and not being put on a time out. :biggrin:
 

arto71

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If you are on incentive, I don't really consider the dead miles to be killer. For Instance, yesterday I got an LAX to Irvine during Rush Hour at 1.8x incentive (damn it hurts only being gold and not platinum). Trip took 90 minutes, and I made $67. Took me 45 minutes to dead mile it back to LAX, so in total, I made $29 an hour for the trip. I get to write off the dead miles too. No way I work the airport without incentive or surge.
You can not operate in such a way , if you're at X 1.8 boost and dead mil. empty back to LAX , you're driving less then a base ,even with at X2.0 boost and driving empty back to lax ,it equals no boost or surge.
 

UberIsAllFubared

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You can not operate in such a way , if you're at X 1.8 boost and dead mil. empty back to LAX , you're driving less then a base ,even with at X2.0 boost and driving empty back to lax ,it equals no boost or surge.
Its still in the $25 to $30 an hour range. What you got to remember too is I am not driving 7-10 minutes to each pickup destination. I am driving for a solid hour "on the clock", so I think the dead miles are pretty even. If you do 5 pickups in two hours, and you spend 5-10 minutes going to pickup the passengers (these are dead miles too), I think its pretty close to me dead miling it back to the Core. I only do this if I am taken to Orange County. Why drive in the OC with no surge or incentive? Rides there don't even count toward your ride count for the week.
 
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Green Porcupine

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In this hot weather, sit inside the pig pen too long, your will finally become a roasted bacon. Remember to bring barbecue seasons with you.:biggrin::p

Anyone can bring some beers?:biggrin:

Pig pen area is dirty, shadowless, and fenced like a jail. Don't like it.:frown::oopsies:
 

arto71

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Its still in the $25 to $30 an hour range. What you got to remember too is I am not driving 7-10 minutes to each pickup destination. I am driving for a solid hour "on the clock", so I think the dead miles are pretty even. If you do 5 pickups in two hours, and you spend 5-10 minutes going to pickup the passengers (these are dead miles too), I think its pretty close to me dead miling it back to the Core. I only do this if I am taken to Orange County. Why drive in the OC with no surge or incentive? Rides there don't even count toward your ride count for the week.
End of the day you're free to do whatever makes you happy and its no ones business to tell you how to drive.
At $ 0.90 a mile profit margin is low , but you're not even getting $ 0.90 with 1.8 boost and dead mil to your pick up location.
One of the most important stat is on how many miles did you make that $67 Irvine run.
 

Green Porcupine

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End of the day you're free to do whatever makes you happy and its no ones business to tell you how to drive.
At $ 0.90 a mile profit margin is low , but you're not even getting $ 0.90 with 1.8 boost and dead mil to your pick up location.
One of the most important stat is on how many miles did you make that $67 Irvine run.
GP counts all the miles driven, and divided by the total income. It is only recent several days, GP made over $1 per mile level.

It is hard to make the ends meet! This is what GP concluded about FUber.
 
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