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We Can't Have The 'City Of Tomorrow' Or Autonomous Cars Until We Fix Our Garbage Roads

Discussion in 'Autonomous' started by WeirdBob, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. WeirdBob

    WeirdBob Well-Known Member

    We Can't Have The 'City Of Tomorrow' Or Autonomous Cars Until We Fix Our Garbage Roads


    Ryan Felton | Jan 10, 2017 5:52 pm

    Besides the bonkers official announcements from Ford about a new Bronco and Ranger, the automaker made waves at this week’s Detroit Auto Show with a TED talk-like event about how to transform cities of the future with the technology we’re enraptured with today—electric and autonomous vehicles, all that good stuff. But without a significant influx in infrastructure investments, the warm and fuzzy picture of a Smart City is a pipe dream.
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    As we reported last year, the feds describe the state of our transportation system as f*****g bleak:

    There’s something else we’re going to have to do to avoid a future crisis with our transportation system, and that’s spend money on it. Foxx said that we basically called it a day with our highways around 1992 or so; investment in transportation continues to decline.

    The report says that we need to spend $120 billion on highways and bridges between 2015 and 2020, while spending at all levels of government is just $83 billion; we need $43 billion for public transit, while it’s currently at a dismal $17 billion. Today, our road system scores a mere “D+” grade when compared to the rest of the world. Surely, America can do better.​
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  2. WeirdBob

    WeirdBob Well-Known Member

    A few years back, for what seemed like an eternity, Republican Michigan Governor Rick Snyder made grand symbolic gestures to goad the state’s also Republican-led, tax-averse legislature into passing a $1.2 billion road infrastructure package. After nearly three years of work, he signed a feeble version of it into law. A victory! But not really.

    That’s because Michigan, according to anyone with a pulse and who drives its pothole-ridden roads on a regular basis, needs to spend more far more. At least a billion dollars more per year than what Snyder signed, some analyses have suggested. State spending on roadways and infrastructure dictates municipal spending on roadways and infrastructure, and without an extra boost ... you get my point.

    This also reminded me of the episode at last year’s Los Angeles Auto Show with Volvo North American CEO Lex Kerssemakers. The guy is trying to show off the automaker’s semi-autonomous prototype, but it—at times—refused to drive.

    “It can’t find the lane markings!” Kerssemakers bleated to Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who was driving at the time. “You need to paint the bloody roads here!”
  3. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Saint Louis
    The idea that fully developed SDCs will need road markings isn't true. They won't. Today some do, but it's not essential. They must overcome this need just to deal with snow.

    What will really help are pothole robots. The SDCs report potholes and the robot comes and fixes it. It's a very simple task perfect for automation once we get past the unions.

    Other long term costs savings will be the removal of traffic lights, signs, markings, etc. Just plain roads that will carry far more people and at higher speeds.

    Lane usage and diction changing on the fly to accommodate traffic. The savings in efficiency and not burning gas sitting in traffic will be huge.

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