Unlivable wage? Support The Strike - May 8, 2019

warsaw

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  • Uber and Lyft drivers in eight U.S. cities plan to stop taking rides for the ridesharing services on May 8 as part of a protest to demand better pay and working conditions.
  • The planned work stoppage comes as Uber is preparing for an initial public offering that could value the company at upwards of $100 billion.
  • Drivers for the companies want a minimum wage of $28 an hour, which they say amounts to $17 after gas, tolls and other expenses.
Although Uber's planned initial public offering next month is likely to turn some current and former employees of the ridesharing service into instant millionaires and billionaires, the biggest IPO in years may do much less for one party -- the company's drivers.


***** That's why thousands of Uber drivers in eight U.S. cities plan to turn off their app for 24 hours on May 8 to protest what they regard as the company's stingy wages.*****



In Los Angeles, some 4,200 members of Rideshare Drivers United will stop taking rides for both Uber and Lyft platforms and hold a rally at Los Angeles International Airport, according to organizers with the labor group. Uber's chief rival, Lyft made its high-profile debut on Wall Street last month.
"We provide an essential service, but Uber and Lyft investors are the only ones reaping the benefits," Karim Bayumi, a Lyft driver who usually works at the airport, said in a statement.
Timed to come a day after Lyft reports earnings and as investors await Uber's public debut, the protests are also planned in seven other cities: Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, San Diego, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. Uber's IPO is expected to value the company at upwards of $100 billion.
Wage cut in L.A.
Uber last month cut driver compensation in Los Angeles from 80 cents a mile to 60 cents. Lyft also eliminated a surchage that had allowed drivers to earn more than their base rate of 79.5 cents a mile. The drivers want Uber to reverse the 25 percent cut, as well for the company and Lyft to guarantee drivers a minimum rate of $28 an hour, which they say amounts to $17 after gas, tolls and other expenses.
The demand would echo a wage rule now in effect in New York City that guarantees drivers a minimum gross wage of $27.86 an hour, so that pay after expenses would be at least $17.22. Uber noted in an email to CBS MoneyWatch that it did not contest the rule. Lyft, which filed suit to block the ruling, did not return a request for comment.
"If they are able to do that in New York, they should be able to do it in Los Angeles and the rest of the country," Ridshare Drivers United organizer Brian Dolber told CBS MoneyWatch. "I did drive part-time for a short period when I was an adjunct professor, so I know what it's like to rely on the gig economy to try to make ends meet," added Dolber, also an assistant professor of communications at California State University San Marcos. Uber and Lyft take as much as 70 percent of the payment for each ride, he said.
Unlivable wage?
Uber is taking some steps to sweeten drivers' pay. The company said it plans over the next few days to hand out a total of $300 million in a one-time bonus to 1.1 million qualifying drivers around the world. In the U.S., the payouts to some drivers will range from $100 to $10,000, depending on the number of trips they've completed. The top reward, which Uber is billing as a "driver appreciation" payment, will go to people that have completed 20,000 trips as of April 7.
"At least Uber is recognizing that drivers deserve more, but what Uber and Lyft need to do is pay a livable wage," Dolber said. "These are really peanuts they are handing out in comparison to what drivers need to make through the year."
An 2018 analysis by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found that Uber and Lyft drivers made a median wage of as little as $8.55 an hour before taxes -- that is above the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour but below the minimum in California and many other states.
 

warsaw

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For those ants who refuse to participate and will continue Driving, please don’t come back crying on UP and complaining about diminishing earnings week after week.

Uber and Lyft don’t give a @@@@ about weak ants who have zero power and no backup.
 

seymour

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Wear extra padding and maybe a helmet - expect to be tackled at front door.


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If you do go to the protest you could be missing out on meeting your next wife/husband/mistress - that next pax could be the ONE!

 
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BeansnRice

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Who is saying drivers want $17hr? BS

In San Fran $40-$50 gross hourly is what a busy driver should be able to make by being self employed and hustling NOT being employed by U/L.

U/L has not right to constrict or earnings to an hourly. They are not supposed to control or destinies and daily pay this way.

The way they meter our income is bullshat. In some way I know it’s illegal.

But people keep talking about how drivers need U/L to pay a certain rate. That’s a false argument.

U/L needs to get out of the way and let the real market for our services pay us for our availability and service.

I’m not looking for an employer. U/L is an APP.

U/L is NOT a cab company. They do not supervise drivers.

They do not have a right to the fares we earn.

They have a right to receive legitimate service fees for arranging the transaction.

That’s all the TNC grants. People wrongly assume otherwise.
 

treesweets dancer

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I notice they aren't keen on protesting in NYC - lol
I wonder why :wink:
They were very keen, way ahead of the rest of us. They got something out of it. You might meet yr wife at a protest. Or at the park when you have more time not working cuz you got paid better. Corps spread feel good "news" stories like that the same way priests tell you Jesus loves you while they suck yr little-boy-dick to get the youth jizz that powers their dark souls. How does it feel to be on their side? Ur so cynical you think this is funny.

Seymour's shilliness confirmed again.
Get a real job Seymour. Spreading propaganda on behalf of the corporatacracy will be remembered. Yr kind'll be the first against the wall. Ur like a step below Trump voter. Ur even a step below Hillary voter. Ur scum. Don't you get paid even if you don't try so hard to PR? Just phone it in. Talk about cars or something. You don't have to actually sincerely do a good job. Ur job is evil. So just do it shittily & collect the pay checks.
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Who is saying drivers want $17hr? BS
It said much more, so as to come out to $17 after expenses.

U/L needs to get out of the way and let the real market for our services pay us for our availability and service
The REAL market is over saturation from drivers willing to work for what we work for now. U/L out of the way means no market. U aren't being realistic about life. Take yr car & go be independent in the REAL market & see what happens with U/L out of the way. Pastrami Pirate can do it, but it's a rare thing, & U/L arriving has probably hurt his business more than helped.
 

Da Ub

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Here is one more consider.
If everyone was making 40-50 per hour , Uber would have made a play to make us drivers all employees to only pay us minimum wage
 

seymour

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You have misinterpreted the language again. I fully support the "movement" - interpreting data is not your strong suit. No point in arguing with you - I notice Draggy is schooling you on another thread :wink:

Maybe just calm down a little?
 
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warsaw

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Most drivers actually make minimum wages, but a few in select cities do better than minimum. The problem is that many drivers overestimate their true net earnings and end up trading their expensive cars for instant y, just like those payday loans.

The only catch is that the money stream is very fragile and any accident or sickness will destroy your livelihood.

No insurance
No sick days
No paid holidays
No unemployment insurance
No medical benefits
No dental benefits
No vision benefits
No life insurance

And to add insult to injury, you’re liable for all payroll taxes!
 

ilka

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Most drivers actually make minimum wages, but a few in select cities do better than minimum. The problem is that many drivers overestimate their true net earnings and end up trading their expensive cars for instant y, just like those payday loans.

The only catch is that the money stream is very fragile and any accident or sickness will destroy your livelihood.

No insurance
No sick days
No paid holidays
No unemployment insurance
No medical benefits
No dental benefits
No vision benefits
No life insurance

And to add insult to injury, you’re liable for all payroll taxes!
Oh boy, you paint a grim picture. Best of luck, hope you can make a difference.
 
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