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Discussion in 'Advocacy' started by Maven, Feb 16, 2017.

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  1. Yes. We need to join together to be treated fairly by Uber.

  2. No. I trust Uber to do right by me.

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  1. Maven

    Maven Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Driving:
    UberX
    Unions say they help members get respect, be treated fairly, have a voice, get better wages and benefits from large corporations, like Uber. Do you think that Uber is terrified of unions? Uber lost a Seattle lawsuit.
    Please take the poll and reply with what you think.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2017
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  2. JimKE

    JimKE Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Miami
    Unions say a lot of things. Uber says a lot of things. I don't trust either.
     
  3. Go4

    Go4 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Seattle
    Maven for a new member you have been doing a lot of posting with really in depth knowledge. Thank you.

    I was worried you might be an Uber employee.

    But after this post, asking for our opinion on joining a union, I'm not wondering anymore.
     
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  4. Maven

    Maven Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Driving:
    UberX
    Thank you, Go4.

    Hmm. I notice this thread was automagiclly moved to Information > Advocacy from "Community > Advise" where it was first posted. At least it was not removed entirely.
     
  5. circle1

    circle1 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Seattle
    The best thing to do is have a national Guild with state-based chapters. I promise if I win the lottery I will fund this!
     

  6. phillipzx3

    phillipzx3 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Uber's "partners" pretty much screwed themselves out of any Union wanting to represent them. As the old saying goes," You made your bed, now sleep in it."

    But I'm sure they'd be more than happy to collect money from you. :)
     
  7. Doowop

    Doowop Active Member

    Location:
    USA
  8. circle1

    circle1 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Seattle
  9. Jazzbaseball

    Jazzbaseball Active Member

    Location:
    Mineapolis
    Driving:
    Lyft
    If they do unionize I would assume Uber will pull out of that area.
     
  10. Polomarko

    Polomarko Active Member

    Location:
    San Francisko
    Driving:
    UberX
    Only right think we can do. Unions are the best option.Get unionized and fight for dignity and respeckt.
     
  11. circle1

    circle1 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Seattle
    But the loss of revenue would be YUUGE. Why on earth would a company pull out of such a lucrative market instead of slightly modifying it's business arrangement with its contractors??

    - opt out of Pool
    - increase minimum charge for a ride
    - allow repeat pax/request driver

    W H Y ??? This isn't asking for much!

    If thinking is involved at all, then let Local 117 hold an informational Q&A.
     
  12. Jesusdrivesuber

    Jesusdrivesuber Well-Known Member

    Location:
    close to mongolia
    Oh uber is ****ed in Seattle, like in India, every time they fail to negotiate... everyone goes offline for a day.

    Pulling out of Austin and now I foresee Seattle because, they won't want to allow people to opt out of pool, will refuse to pay uberpool as it's supposed to be paid, they will not change rates and they will keep upfronting fees.

    Don't like it? Do not drive but don't all do it at the same time!
     
  13. Doowop

    Doowop Active Member

    Location:
    USA
  14. I_Like_Spam

    I_Like_Spam Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    As far as money is concerned, I can't see a union being able to raise rates at all, to any kind of significant degree.

    I guess Uber could be pressured, theoretically, and raise uber x rates to $2 a mile, or more.

    But you have to have passengers to actually pay the rates, and passengers are used to paying lower rates. Sure they can be used to paying more over time, but you're talking about a considerable length of time where the supply of drivers will far exceed the demand for rides. People will take the bus, get rides from their friends, walk, contract with lower priced ride sharing outfits that will look to join the market, get rides from taxis both licensed and unlicensed.

    The old school idea of government regulating boards running a tight ship on transportation rates was killed dead by Uber.
     
  15. Maven

    Maven Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Driving:
    UberX
    Uber is already increasing rates with no discernible decrease in riders or benefit to drivers. For example, give drivers a percentage of the recently increased booking fee so that drivers share in fare increases. Unions could pressure Uber for many driver benefits including:
    • Increased pay
    • Tipping feature on rider-App
    • Reclassify drivers as employees, not independent contractors, qualifying for medical (also dental & vision) insurance and pension plans.
    • Improve existing benefits including make insurance coverage in phase 1 same as phase 2 and 3. Decrease deductible from $1000 to $500 or $250
    • Full-time benefits for driver-employees averaging over 30-hours per week.
    • Retraining rather than deactivation during implementation of autonomous cars
     
  16. uberlyfting123

    uberlyfting123 Active Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, Wa
    Driving:
    UberX
    Never join a union ever. Don't ever think about forcing people unionize either. If you don't like what Uber is doing. Quit. Simple as that.
     
  17. Maven

    Maven Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Driving:
    UberX
    You seem to have succumbed to the anti-union propaganda disseminated by Uber and corporate management for as long as Unions have existed.

    While Unions certainly have their problems, like any human institution, for over a century Unions have given workers a voice and been instrumental in improving safety standards, achieving higher pay and benefits such as health care and retirement, increasing the number of employees an employer assigns to complete the work, and better working conditions. For more, look up "Trade Union" on Wikipedia.
     
  18. uberlyfting123

    uberlyfting123 Active Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, Wa
    Driving:
    UberX
    No thanks. Please keep Unions away. And I guarantee you I will be that uber driver working through any strike or work stoppage. Surges should be awesome!
     
  19. Mole

    Mole Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Novato
    I was a union member for 28 years and it was the best thing I have ever done in life besides getting married raising a family and constantly going to Las Vegas. I have a pension for life that I started collecting at the age of 48.
     
  20. uberlyfting123

    uberlyfting123 Active Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, Wa
    Driving:
    UberX
    And exactly why I will never join a union. Someone has, actually too many people have to pay for that life. There might be a place for unions. But rideshare is not.
     

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