Uberpool commission should be 10-20-30% based on 1-2-3 # rider trips. That would be fair.
*You* will take that as a suggestion? Who are "you"? Between your very oddly particular use of pronouns here and your seemingly insider-like knowledge of Uber's inner workings, I have to ask: Do you work for Uber in some capacity other than as a driver?I will take that as a suggestion. Sounds like a good idea to me.
*He* is one of the first drivers in the city, and *He* has direct contact with the City & Uber operations. Let there be no mistake... *He* is one of the people responsible for the fact we have a generally good bit of legislation that makes us Legal.*You* will take that as a suggestion? Who are "you"? Between your very oddly particular use of pronouns here and your seemingly insider-like knowledge of Uber's inner workings, I have to ask: Do you work for Uber in some capacity other than as a driver?
How do you know he's one of the first drivers in the city? And what difference would that make anyway?*He* is one of the first drivers in the city, and *He* has direct contact with the City & Uber operations. Let there be no mistake... *He* is one of the people responsible for the fact we have a generally good bit of legislation that makes us Legal.
How do you know he's one of the first drivers in the city? And what difference would that make anyway?
Why does he, in particular, have "direct contact with the city and Uber operations"?
How, specifically, is he responsible for whatever legislation there is that makes Uber legal?
All you did was raise even more questions about who he is, his origins and the nature of his connection, if any, to Uber.
And do what? Help craft those alternately clueless or insulting boilerplate messages the CSRs are obliged to hand out in lieu of useful aid whenever you contact Uber about anything? I don't think so.Maybe if you showed up to support the Rally's and at City Hall, you would know.
So you know him by name, then?He has driven me in the past on a couple occasions as a Rider.
Is this a formal position and title? (I note you even capitalized "driver advocate/liaison," which suggests it is.) Is it paid by Uber? If it's formal and associated with Uber, why aren't his posts highlighted as such so that everyone is aware of the context of his posts (which is that he is formally affiliated with Uber and may in fact be receiving financial or other compensation from Uber)?He's been working as a Driver Advocate/Liaison for some time.
Given what you appear to have revealed here, coupled with what I've observed is his highly uncritical position toward Uber, it sounds much less like he's the "voice" of Uber drivers and more like he's Uber's representative among drivers. Those are two *very* different positions.He represented the Voice of many drivers during the drafting.
Given the above, are you formally employed by Uber beyond providing services as a "partner" (specifically as a driver)? If so, do you have a formal title in this role, as has been alluded to in another post by a different poster? Are you compensated in any way for this work? Assuming any of the above is true, why are you not explicitly identified as an Uber representative here on this board?Lately I have been consulted and I am proactive in a number of Uber related releases.
It doesn't bug me but your self identification of your loyalties strongly suggests you are in fact an (formal) advocate for Uber (which is to say, management) and not its drivers. Which is fine--I want to be clear about that. But if this is the case you absolutely MUST identify yourself as an Uber representative in your consumer- and employee-facing communication. To do otherwise would be highly unethical.My loyalty is to the consumer experience and drivers secondary. Sorry if that bugs you but I have never been here for a popularity contest. I'm sure you figured that out.
And that's why I'm asking him for clarification. So now that he's made an appearance, why don't you let him speak for himself and answer the questions?No one ever said he Represents Uber. That is only an assumption of yours NFIH. And to the best of our knowledge, he's not employed by Uber.
Then he should make it abundantly clear that this is the case. Just so there is no misunderstanding about where he's coming from when he posts. I'm sure you're OK with that kind of transparency, right?But I sure hope with all he does in his "Middle-man" role, that he is compensated in some way.
Well, that's one way to look at it. The other would be that this is synonymous with advocating for Uber's wishes, which may not coincide with driver wishes--in which case it would be a misnomer at best to characterize him as a "driver advocate." At any rate, why not clear up exactly what his role is, and let the drivers (on whose behalf you say he's advocating for, after all)--and public--decide which is the most accurate way to look at it?
Well, aren't you a font of information. And which driver's groups would those be?And he manages a number of Driver's groups.
That's nice but it has nothing do to with the transparency, or lack thereof, with which he may be presenting himself.I defend him tooth and nail, because as he alluded to being a "guinea pig" of sorts, he saves the rest of us drivers headaches. He reaches out for feedback, and in many cases gives a heads up on events and sometimes has first had reasoning that he shares.
I'm sorry, but it was you who first used the term "advocate" to describe him. It was the very particular use of that term that led me to ask as to the specific nature of this role--e.g. is it paid or unpaid? By whom? At whose behest, if any, does he work under this title? Why isn't he identified as such in his posts? And so on. So I'm not painting him as anything--yet. More clarification would allow me to settle on a conclusion, but so far the available information--including his revelation that he does some sort of consulting work for Uber--makes it look like something untoward may be going on here. Sure, it might all be nothing, but it looks very odd from here.You are mixing the terms Advocate vs. Employee here... He is the former, and you are trying to paint him as the latter.
But this distinction between "employee" and "independent contractor" is itself one of the ongoing and contentious issues surrounding Uber's status as a business. So I don't know what it means--or if it's even meaningful at all--to say Uber employees can't be drivers. Maybe that's up to the courts to decide.
OK, but then what did you mean by the statement that you do consulting work for Uber? Is there some other way than "I work for Uber" to interpret that?I don't work for Uber and never have.
What's so interesting about these two passages is that it sounds *exactly* like the kind of massaged marketing speak Uber would spout at, say, a presentation before investors or in communication with some customers in a bid to get them to buy in to the old standby that the company has the customer's interests at heart. But of course we should all know from the many examples otherwise, across time and numerous kinds of businesses, that this isn't exactly true. The countless fines, media revelations of wrongdoing and sometimes criminal proceedings levied against them are indicative of that.I also don't agree with everything they do. But I don't sit around crying about in in a forum. I take action for positive change.
And yes it all starts with a customer focus. You get that right you will still have a job. Just ask a taxi driver today.