Uber surge data is now off limits to the public

TBone

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Nobody can drive surge only in my city. I havent seen a "surge" in weeks and when it does its anywhere from $1.25-2.50 a ride.
 

Launchpad McQuack

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....but you’re perfectly fine with screwing other drivers by passing off undesirable trips on others while waiting for surge trips.
You don't have to take the undesirable trips either. Nobody has to take them. The drivers that pass on undesirable trips aren't the drivers that hurt other drivers. The drivers that take them are the drivers that hurt other drivers because their willingness to accept those trips drives rates down for everybody.
 

Amos69

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You all don’t get the point. You complain about Uber screwing you with rate cuts, pax’s that file bogus complaints, but you’re perfectly fine with screwing other drivers by passing off undesirable trips on others while waiting for surge trips. If so it doesn’t say a lot about your integrity.
I do not complain about Any of those things.

If no one gets your point, then perhaps your point is invalid.

You and I are not business partners. Fozzie and I are not business partners.

I am in no way obligated to teach you how to make money doing this nor to help you. In turn I expect nothing from either you or Fozzie. The socialist drum you are beating might be more appreciated on the floor of Seattle City Council.
 

SRGuy

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Good, about time you cherrypickers get shafted, you have been screwing honest drivers with getting stuck with crappie rides while you flood the market taking undeserved premium rides. BTW I’m the guy who spoke to Uber management and suggested that they remove surge trackers from their platform.
You got what you deserve.
Not all cherrypickers are part timers. And cherrypicking doesn't always work if you're waiting for the ideal ride because nothing good may arrive. Taking every ride that gets sent to you is good for uber and Lyft and bad for you and every other driver.
 

RodB

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Good, about time you cherrypickers get shafted, you have been screwing honest drivers with getting stuck with crappie rides while you flood the market taking undeserved premium rides. BTW I’m the guy who spoke to Uber management and suggested that they remove surge trackers from their platform.
You got what you deserve.
You are the one screwing honest drivers.

When we all go out and drive the drunks and drive in storms, get stuck in traffic on the 4th of July for pennies on the mile it is drivers like you that are to blame.

Why should drivers not get paid extra when they are risking driving drunks late night, driving in bad weather and getting stuck in traffic jams.

You are doing exactly what Uber wanted, driving prices down so their profits go up and the drivers get screwed.

How are these premium rides undeserved?

We come in and flood the market? ???
It is the ants that flood the market.

So your "THE GUY" that talked Uber management...that is some funny shit..

Damn you must have some pull being "THE GUY" for Uber...

This may be the dumbest thread on UP..

Should have been titled ( I bend over for Uber, how dare other drivers not do the same)
 

peteyvavs

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You are the one screwing honest drivers.

When we all go out and drive the drunks and drive in storms, get stuck in traffic on the 4th of July for pennies on the mile it is drivers like you that are to blame.

Why should drivers not get paid extra when they are risking driving drunks late night, driving in bad weather and getting stuck in traffic jams.

You are doing exactly what Uber wanted, driving prices down so their profits go up and the drivers get screwed.

How are these premium rides undeserved?

We come in and flood the market? ???
It is the ants that flood the market.

So your "THE GUY" that talked Uber management...that is some funny shit..

Damn you must have some pull being "THE GUY" for Uber

This may be the dumbest thread on UP..

Should have been titled ( I bend over for Uber, how dare other drivers not do the same)
There were groups of drivers who sat around waiting for areas that were surging, then swoop in to catch the surge and kill the surge for everyone else by over saturating the area. This is the problem, we work and catch the short trips and when it surged these groups would ruin it for everyone else. I don’t care what others think, if they want to undercut everyone else then they can go F themselves.
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You are the one screwing honest drivers.

When we all go out and drive the drunks and drive in storms, get stuck in traffic on the 4th of July for pennies on the mile it is drivers like you that are to blame.

Why should drivers not get paid extra when they are risking driving drunks late night, driving in bad weather and getting stuck in traffic jams.

You are doing exactly what Uber wanted, driving prices down so their profits go up and the drivers get screwed.

How are these premium rides undeserved?

We come in and flood the market? ???
It is the ants that flood the market.

So your "THE GUY" that talked Uber management...that is some funny shit..

Damn you must have some pull being "THE GUY" for Uber...

This may be the dumbest thread on UP..

Should have been titled ( I bend over for Uber, how dare other drivers not do the same)
This is not an issue with Uber, the surge tracker apps were F everyone for the benefit of those who were getting over on other drivers.
 

Ssgcraig

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Fozzie think of it this way, you’re in a poker game and another player is using a marked deck, he/she knows what your hole cards are every hand, then when he/she has a hand that can beat you he takes your money. Cherry picking
Your analogy is missing an important part, you both have access to the marked deck, your the ding dong that is allowing the other player to take your money.
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You all don’t get the point. You complain about Uber screwing you with rate cuts, pax’s that file bogus complaints, but you’re perfectly fine with screwing other drivers by passing off undesirable trips on others while waiting for surge trips. If so it doesn’t say a lot about your integrity.
I don't think a veteran driver needs an app to know when and where surges happens, I know where they are where I drive.
 

peteyvavs

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Your analogy is missing an important part, you both have access to the marked deck, your the ding dong that is allowing the other player to take your money.
The surge trackers were killing surges by allowing areas that had demand to get over saturated with hundreds of ants that stuck everyone else with base rides. To hell with the parasites who were uncutting the rest of us.
 

peteyvavs

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Your analogy is missing an important part, you both have access to the marked deck, your the ding dong that is allowing the other player to take your money.
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I don't think a veteran driver needs an app to know when and where surges happens, I know where they are where I drive.
Exactly, veteran drivers took the time to learn their market, it was the lazy aholes who were undercutting veteran drivers who actually worked their market.
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It's my ball and I'm going home, whah.
Another senseless response.
 

peteyvavs

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All he's doing is limiting his driving to "busy" time periods. That's no different from people that only drove when markets surged. Markets (supposedly) surged to bring in more drivers. Working as intended.

Despite how many hours you may choose to drive, you're no more "entitled" to rides than others.
Actually the cherrypickers killed surges by flooding a market when they had a surge.
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You don't have to take the undesirable trips either. Nobody has to take them. The drivers that pass on undesirable trips aren't the drivers that hurt other drivers. The drivers that take them are the drivers that hurt other drivers because their willingness to accept those trips drives rates down for everybody.
Your acceptance and cancellation rate is important, to many declines and cancellations will get you deactivated.
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It's my ball and I'm going home, whah.
Your response shows your attitude, even Walmart probably rejected you for employment.
 

Fozzie

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Actually the cherrypickers killed surges by flooding a market when they had a surge.
Uber and Lyft killed Surge/Primetime. Part timers had nothing to do with it.

Your acceptance and cancellation rate is important, to many declines and cancellations will get you deactivated.
Wrong again. Your acceptance rate doesn't matter. It can drop to 1% and you don't have to worry about anything. Cancellation rate, however, can get you deactivated. I don't know how far you can push it, but I've been at more than 25% cancellation and I'm still here.
 

peteyvavs

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Uber and Lyft killed Surge/Primetime. Part timers had nothing to do with it.


Wrong again. Your acceptance rate doesn't matter. It can drop to 1% and you don't have to worry about anything. Cancellation rate, however, can get you deactivated. I don't know how far you can push it, but I've been at more than 25% cancellation and I'm still here.
It depends on the market you’re in, I know of two people who were deactivated for excessive cancellations.
 

charmer37

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Seriously, I should bend over and take $3 rides? why? I'm an independent contractor apparently. For the last 5 years I've been driving at times and in places that are more likely to get me surge and higher ticket rides. If you are that foolish that you take everything you get then that's your problem. 5 years I've been working drunks and storms, ... I'm not doing it for 60 cents a mile. You are the problem because you are willing to.

By the way folks, "Anti Surge" on android still seems to work.
The real issue is Uber lowering rates and making it hard for drivers to make any descent money off a trip, I would be upset with Uber.
 

mbd

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You h
You all don’t get the point. You complain about Uber screwing you with rate cuts, pax’s that file bogus complaints, but you’re perfectly fine with screwing other drivers by passing off undesirable trips on others while waiting for surge trips. If so it doesn’t say a lot about your integrity.
you got a good point... ?
Cherry picking is just fine, you can accept or decline any rides, your car, your rules, but no reason to complain about U... if you can strategize and cherry pick, good for you.less work and more money is the way to go.

personally, If I am Uber, i would pay more to the UberSlave who does the crappy Walmart, 2 stop runs. Pay 80%to the Uber slave.
Pay more to the UberSlave whose rent depends on those runs. If cherry pickers can make good money, let them make it.
 

peteyvavs

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you got a good point... ?
Cherry picking is just fine, you can accept or decline any rides, your car, your rules, but no reason to complain about U... if you can strategize and cherry pick, good for you.less work and more money is the way to go.

personally, If I am Uber, i would pay more to the UberSlave who does the crappy Walmart, 2 stop runs. Pay 80%to the Uber slave.
Pay more to the UberSlave whose rent depends on those runs. If cherry pickers can make good money, let them make it.
You’re missing the entire point, why would anyone who is supposedly in their own business give someone else the opportunity to screw them. It’s not being smart when you manipulate the system at everyone else’s expense.
 

Fat Man

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It is ALWAYS a conspiracy theory among all of you! U/L MUST be fu**ing you just cause you think so! Quit your @@@@@ing. If you don't like it stop driving and get a real job!
 

homelesswarlock

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You’re missing the entire point, why would anyone who is supposedly in their own business give someone else the opportunity to screw them. It’s not being smart when you manipulate the system at everyone else’s expense.
Look at the Uber map. Notice that instead of “people” icons to represent demand, it has dollar signs. People aren’t dollar signs but that’s how Uber has it on their map.

My goal is to run out there to grab dollar signs; save the princess; eat spaghetti; and if I have to throw banana peels out my window to make another driver spin out so I can win, I’ll do that.

Get rich or die ‘mirin.
 

Ssgcraig

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Your response shows your attitude, even Walmart probably rejected you for employment.
Yeah, I'm not receiving a retirement check for the rest of my life after a 27 year career and do Ubering for vacation money. I am content with my life choices.
 

Nats121

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This happened about 4 days ago when my surge apps stopped firing and went dark. This data used to be open source and I have been using it to track movement within my city. It appears that all apps that track surge are broken and the “Uber estimate” website now only shows Lyft.


The website above used to look like this:
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I work only when there is a shortage of drivers on the road or when there is a surplus of visitors to the city. With this change, I won’t know what the weather is like unless I’m out in the field actively anting.

To those of you who ant regardless of surge, this change will not effect you. For those who analyze and only work surge; this change inhibits all strategies. The less we know, the more we ant.

This is the message for all my checkpoints
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I've been wondering myself what happened to the Uber Estimate website. It was a good resource to find out what the pay rates were in most of the country.

In order to find out how much the driver pay rates were in most states, all you had to do was subtract 25% from the fares that were listed.

Florida and Louisiana were the exceptions because Uber and lyft raised pax fares in 2018 but didn't share it with the drivers, so the the 75% formula didn't work with those two states.
 
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