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Uber Self-Driving Car Was At Fault For Running Red Light In December

Discussion in 'Autonomous' started by Jo3030, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. Jo3030

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    Uber Self-Driving Car Was At Fault For Running Red Light In December

    Link: http://hothardware.com/news/uber-se...ult-for-running-red-light#gSPBHMGQ77Y6qkew.99

    In the words of Britney Spears, Uber is “not that innocent”. It was recently disclosed that Uber’s self-driving car was at fault for running a red light in December.

    Last year one of Uber’s self-driving Volvo’s ran a red light near San Francisco’s Museum of Modern Art. The company claimed that the incident was due to human error and they suspended the employee who had been riding in the vehicle at the time. Uber’s own internal documents and information from two anonymous Uber employees have revealed that the self-driving vehicle was actually in the wrong. Uber’s mapping program failed to recognize six red lights in San Francisco and, “in this case, the car went through a red light”.


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    Uber was kicked off the streets of California this past autumn due to the fact that the company had started testing its self-driving cars before receiving an autonomous vehicles driving permit. California requires that self-driving vehicles be tested by the Department of Motor Vehicles before they go out on the road. Other companies have complied, however, Uber insisted that it did not need a permit, since the vehicles were not “fully” autonomous. Uber refused to apply for a permit, but was “open to having the conversation”. It turns out that the California DMV was not “open” to smoke-filled back-room deals and stuck to their guns.

    The red light incident was one of the reasons Uber did not receive a permit in California. The vehicles also had a difficult time handling bike lanes. When in self-driving mode, Uber’s vehicle tend to make “unsafe right-hook-style turn through a bike lane”. The blind spot is the self-driving car’s number one cause of collision. Many blame Anthony Levandowski, Uber’s driverless car operation leader at the time, for his overeagerness. Levandowski had been quoted saying, “was eager to commercialize a self-driving vehicle as quickly as possible”.
     
  2. Jo3030

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    Remember the lies they told regarding 'they suspended the engineer that was in the car at the time' ? ??? lol

    Buncha crooks and liars.
     
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  3. if they're lying about these types of failures, imagine what else they will lie about. Don't worry...perfectly safe...trust us...even though you not trusting us will cost us billions so we have every incentive to lie to you to get you to trust us but don't worry about that...we're good people! look at our past track record of what great people we are! come on....trust us.
     
  4. Imagine what has been done to Drivers based on.lies ?
     
  5. RamzFanz

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    Anonymous sources and unverified documentation. We'll see.
     
  6. Actually there were 2 cars filmed running red lights. One was shot out of rear window of a Lyft car by a Lyft passenger. On YouTube.
     
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  7. If it's not true uber should sue for libel. At least force a retraction. Oh wait, it's true.
     
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  8. Gung-Ho

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    Remember the genius of these SDC's are they that they learn from other SDC's....so now all SDC's know how to run red lights
     
  9. Jagent

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    Blah, blah blah....Uber, the company that's never designed, manufactured, or produced one product is going to bring self driving cars to market. Meanwhile, Ford, GM, Boeing, etc. all say its years away.
     
  10. RamzFanz

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    We'll see what they do.

    Yes, they do. 2-4 years according to just about every major player. Tesla says this year or next.

    That's genuinely funny.
     
  11. Jagent

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    They say that about cars that can self drive on the freeway. I'm talking about cars with no steering wheel or pedals, which is what Uber needs.
     
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  12. RamzFanz

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    Ford CEO announces fully autonomous vehicles for mobility services by 2021
    Mark Fields, Ford’s CEO announced that the company plans to offer fully self-driving vehicles by 2021. The vehicles, which will come without steering wheel and pedals, will be targeted to fleets which provide autonomous mobility services. Fields expects that it will take several years longer until Ford will sell autonomous vehicles to the public.
    Source: Reuters, 2016-08-16

    GM: Autononomous cars could be deployed by 2020 or sooner
    General Motor’s head of foresight and trends Richard Holman said at a confererence in Detroit that most industry participants now think that self-driving cars will be on the road by 2020 or sooner.
    Source: Wall Street Journal, 2016-05-10

    Audi to introduce a self-driving car by 2020
    Scott Keogh, Head of Audi America announced at the CES 2017 that an Audio that really would drive itself would be available by 2020.
    (Source: IEEE Spectrum, 2017-01-05)

    NuTonomy to provide self-driving taxi services in Singapore by 2018, expand to 10 cities around the world by 2020
    The company has just started trials of its self-driving taxis in Singapore’s 1 North District. It plans to deploy self-driving taxis commercially in Singapore by 2018 and aims to be operational with fleets of self-driving taxis in 10 cities of the world by 2020.
    (Source: Yahoo News, 2016-08-29, Digital Trends, 2016-05-24)

    Delphi and MobilEye to provide off-the-shelf self-driving system by 2019
    Both companies have announced that they will bring a fully self-driving (SAE level 4) system on the market for use in a variety of cars in 2019.
    Source: TheVerge, 2016-08-23

    Volkswagen expects first self driving cars on the market by 2019
    Johann Jungwirth, Volkswagen’s appointed head of Digitalization Strategy, expects the first self-driving cars to appear on the market by 2019. He did not claim that these would be Volkswagen models.
    Source: Focus, 2016-04-23

    BMW to launch autonomous iNext in 2021
    At their annual shareholder meeting, BMW CEO Harald Krueger said that BMW will launch a self-driving electric vehicle, the BMW iNext, in 2021.
    Source: Elektrek, 2016-05-12

    Baidu’s Chief Scientist expects large number of self-driving cars on the road by 2019
    In an interview session, Andrew Ng, the chief scientist of the Chinese search engine Baidu expects that a large number self-driving self-driving cars will be on the road within three years, and that mass-production will be in full swing by 2021.
    (Source: Quora, 2016-01-29)
     
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  13. You get too consumed with mainstream media. They wanted this in 2016 where it was suppose to be in many cities. I hear them keep delay things
     
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  14. Jagent

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    Ok, Ramz, you drank the koolaid. You do realize that 2018 models are already in production, right? So, you really believe that next year's models won't need a steering wheel or pedals?

    Cause that's what Uber needs to replace drivers.

    Ford's CEO recently said it's at least 10 years away, possibly more. (And no, I'm not gonna search for a link for you)
     
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  15. He is right on uber and vovlo. Vovlo working with uber for mapping wich also says haveing "no driver is still years away "
     
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  16. RamzFanz

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    It's not media, it's almost all of the industry experts. It is what it is, take their words for what they're worth.
     
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  17. Even so. Ive been waiting 3 years since samsung said we were suppose to already have phones that can bend like arm bands
     
  18. RamzFanz

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    Are we discussing the technology or the regulations? The technology, yes, 1-3 years. Regulations are a different story but from what is coming out of the Trump administration on this issue, it sounds like they are going to clear a path.
     
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  19. Jagent

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    Ramz, there's a huge difference in a luxury car that can sort of drive itself down a straight highway in light traffic and a totally self driving car. Then there are what is basically golf carts on a pre programmed route on college campuses... "Experts" refer to them all as self driving cars.
     
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  20. RamzFanz

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    Yes. I agree. If this were one company with a new toy, I'm not buying in. This isn't the case with SDCs. Major technology and auto companies and many major universities are almost all saying 1-4 years.

    Dude, they are talking about deploying fleets for TNC between 2019-2021. Singapore is saying 2018. They aren't talking about lane assist. We already have lane assist.

    These will not be go anywhere at any speed cars, but they will be self-driving TNCs.
     
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