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Uber/Lyft drivers are now Employees!

AustinAD99

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California passed AB 5, landmark legislation aimed at giving gig workers such as Uber drivers greater protections — minimum wage, overtime pay, etc. — by classifying many of them as employees rather than contractors.
But Uber has said it will continue its business as usual and that it has no plans to change how it classifies its drivers.
The company argues that the new legislation doesn’t mandate the company to make a change but only applies a stricter legal test to determine if Uber’s workers are truly independent contractors — a test the company thinks it can pass.
“To hire an independent contractor, businesses must prove that the worker a) is free from the company’s control, b) is doing work that isn’t central to the company’s business, and c) has an independent business in that industry. If they don’t meet all three of those conditions, then they have to be classified as employees.”
Uber says that since “drivers’ work is outside the usual course of Uber’s business,” which he defined as “serving as a technology platform for several different types of digital marketplaces,” drivers should not be considered employees.
So drivers are not the core of your business? The Fracking gall of these assclowns.

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AustinAggie

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This is the slippery slope: Uber holds out to be a tech company, not a transportation company. If you stop and think about it, that is technically correct.
Where it gets gray is they basically created the rideshare market. Also, instead of renting their software, they screen and approve who can drive for them.
This is going to be interesting to watch.
 

AustinAD99

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This is the slippery slope: Uber holds out to be a tech company, not a transportation company. If you stop and think about it, that is technically correct.
Where it gets gray is they basically created the rideshare market. Also, instead of renting their software, they screen and approve who can drive for them.
This is going to be interesting to watch.
Yeah, but not really.

Without us chumps out there driving for them, there would be no business/income.
Just a chickshit way of dancing around the law, as per usual.
And if they think of it in these terms, why did U/L/Grubhub all kick in $30 million each to fight it?

Drivers without the ability to set their own rates and see scope of work prior to picking up pax are not independent contractors.
 
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Noonespecial

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Damn. If they knew anything about taxes and how they might lose their mileage deduction they may not want this.


THIS is what us needed. Guarantee drivers 75% of the fare and raise rates until there is profit.
 
Damn. If they knew anything about taxes and how they might lose their mileage deduction they may not want this.


THIS is what us needed. Guarantee drivers 75% of the fare and raise rates until there is profit.
I agree with this. Too many people are getting caught up in their feeling about them saying we are not center to their business. Just pay me fairly, allow me to make at least 75% of what the customer pays. Say what you want Uber as long as your paying me what I deserve. That's all I care about.
 
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AustinAggie

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Damn. If they knew anything about taxes and how they might lose their mileage deduction they may not want this.


THIS is what us needed. Guarantee drivers 75% of the fare and raise rates until there is profit.
Raise rates until there is a profit? That's pure MADNESS!
Why would any business set rates so they can make a profit?
(Sarcasm in case it isn't obvious).

Seriously, though. The rates from a few years ago yielded a lot of business. They could have kept rates there, keep their take at 20%, and they'd be better off.
 

DDW

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So drivers are not the core of your business? The Fracking gall of these assclowns.

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I propose a simple test to determine whether Drivers are core to their business:

Take away all Uber and Lyft drivers and see if these companies can still function. If they can't, then it's obvious that drivers ARE core to their business. and U/L are just full of (it).
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This is the slippery slope: Uber holds out to be a tech company, not a transportation company. If you stop and think about it, that is technically correct.
Where it gets gray is they basically created the rideshare market. Also, instead of renting their software, they screen and approve who can drive for them.
This is going to be interesting to watch.
Correct. If they simply provided a software of and technology service to drivers who would be their customers then they would be a technology company only. BUT, They screen and run back ground checks and punish people for Declining or canceling trips, And also reward drivers for certain behaviors, so that means they are not just providing a technology service, they are actually trying to control and dictate driver's actions. By doing so they have interwoven drivers into their core business
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This is the slippery slope: Uber holds out to be a tech company, not a transportation company. If you stop and think about it, that is technically correct.
Where it gets gray is they basically created the rideshare market. Also, instead of renting their software, they screen and approve who can drive for them.
This is going to be interesting to watch.
Correct. If they simply provided a software of and technology service to drivers who would be their customers then they would be a technology company only. BUT, They screen and run back ground checks and punish people for Declining or canceling trips, And also reward drivers for certain behaviors, so that means they are not just providing a technology service, they are actually trying to control and dictate driver's actions. By doing so they have interwoven drivers into their core business
Raise rates until there is a profit? That's pure MADNESS!
Why would any business set rates so they can make a profit?
(Sarcasm in case it isn't obvious).

Seriously, though. The rates from a few years ago yielded a lot of business. They could have kept rates there, keep their take at 20%, and they'd be better off.
You are correct. Most passengers would still use Uber even if they did raise rates. And don't worry even if lyft undercut Uber, drivers would only work for Uber because they would make more money so lyft would have no drivers and it will do them no good to have lower rates.
 
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DDW

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This is the slippery slope: Uber holds out to be a tech company, not a transportation company. If you stop and think about it, that is technically correct.
Where it gets gray is they basically created the rideshare market. Also, instead of renting their software, they screen and approve who can drive for them.
This is going to be interesting to watch.
How can it be a technology company with platform and software only when it dictates to drivers that they cannot have sex with their passengers, even after the ride has ended? That would be like Facebook telling its users that they cannot have sex with each other....LOL
 
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