I recently had 4 separate rides on both apps indicate they were paying a surge price, however; NO SURGE WAS LISTED ON MY END OR EVEN SHOWED UP ON THE MAP. I went home and ran the numbers and found BOTH Uber and Lyft were charging riders 25-50% extra on rides during busy times and were only paying me STANDARD RATES. When I call Lyft they researched each ride and paid my back for the missed surge. Lyft even went as far as to say that there is a known bug regarding surge pricing in my area and I have no been added to the IT Ticket so my account can be reviewed and paid for all missed surge prices. Apparently this has been going on since September 23rd 2018. When I contacted Uber they just simply stated there was no surge price allocated tot he ride and I was paid correctly. I offered to send them a print out of each ride to confirm the surge and they decline simply stating again no surge was charged to the rider. No here is the thing. 1+1 equals 2 right! So if the passengers are charged a per mile & minute fee plus a booking fee and service fee then the calculation show be simply to determine what the rider should have been charged. If that rider was charged more then there was a surge and according to my agreement, and the Uber portal, I should have been paid on that surge as well. The other thing I notices was this so called MIN SURGE INCREASE per ride in Philly. the so called $4.00 extra on the ride when in reality Uber is collecting a lot more then that. Example. a Standard ride from KOP to the Philly AIrport would cost the rider roughly $45.00 and I would be paid roughly $28.00. On a trip yesterday the rider was charged $91.50 for the ride and I was only paid $31.50 as the ride only included a surge of $3.50. Funny part is the email I have the Uber Portal clearly states that these numbers are minimum surges and should update based on ride distance, time, and classification. Clearly this ride should have paid me more then $3.50 extra when the rider was charges double. UBER & LYFT ARE STEALING MONEY FROM IT'S DRIVES! I am currently putting together a spreadsheet to detail my last 500 rides on each app to confirm this and once I am done I will post it here for others to use. It is time we stand up against these greedy @@@@s just like they are doing all around the world.