Uber in rural towns

jimmylaz

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Hi gang.

Friday night I had to move from Sydney to Scone (upper hunter valley about 4 hours from Syd). My old man is out of action for around 6 weeks so I will be looking after our farm. I joined the local community Facebook page and there was a lengthy post about wanting a driver to service the town. I commented that I will try and do some ubering over the next 6 weeks - many people were really chuffed and excited for uber in scone.

I know there won't be much money at all in it however I'm up here by myself and any human interaction will stop me from going crazy!

Anyway i logged on to partner and rider app and tried to request myself. An error message came up about the server.

My question is Can we not receive requests in rural nsw????? In the next town they have a go catch driver. Also Newcastle is only 2 hours away


I emailed uber office sat morning but still waiting on a response.

The local newspaper also contacted me through Facebook to ask about my experience driving in scone once my 6 weeks is up. However I will have to confirm
With uber to see if this is ok to speak with them.
 

dms

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I had a country pax wanting to get Uber operating in their town, she said the local Taxi wouldn't allow it.
 

Mr Fetch It

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No you can't. Byron bay here.

The only rural area in NSW you can uber is Byron/tweed/ballina/Lismore

You can't even uber in Wollongong.

Its protected by law thanks to NSW taxi lobby. I see a lot of drivers here with signs on their windows. That's a $4000 fine if RMS inspectors get you if you are outside Sydney/gosford/Newcastle...

Just FYI...
 

Syd-Uberer

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I joined the local community Facebook page
I wonder if you can get some rides organised via the Facebook page?

Might be a bit risky in terms of damage if anything goes wrong but you won't be sharing any commission with Uber!

I wouldn't think there's fines if you operated outside of normal Uber areas as long as you're a registered driver with a valid authority card. If it's legal in NSW I would think it applies to the whole state?

Perhaps just a scare tactic from the local taxis!
 

Mr Fetch It

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Yes you can operate rideshare outside of uber zones. Read the NSW legislation at RMS website. Just not uber. Guy from casino round here has been doing it. Its a registered business.

The main points to the act are to do with advertising and bookings. I know bookings are essential, and need to be at least 1/2 hr in advance. No advertising actual rideshare on vehicles is allowed, but if your company is called 'coffs airport shuttles' then that's OK.

Its complicated, but its not just taxi scare tactics, its in the legislation specifically about rural areas.

And as we know, NSW stands for Newcasle Sydney Wollongong.
 

Syd-Uberer

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Interesting points, the half hour thing would be a big limiting factor. Still, there may be a liable business case to set up ride shares in regional cities and larger towns.
 

jimmylaz

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No you can't. Byron bay here.

The only rural area in NSW you can uber is Byron/tweed/ballina/Lismore

You can't even uber in Wollongong.

Its protected by law thanks to NSW taxi lobby. I see a lot of drivers here with signs on their windows. That's a $4000 fine if RMS inspectors get you if you are outside Sydney/gosford/Newcastle...

Just FYI...
Cheers fetch. I am very surprised by Wollongong. Appreciate your help.
 

jimmylaz

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I wonder if you can get some rides organised via the Facebook page?

Might be a bit risky in terms of damage if anything goes wrong but you won't be sharing any commission with Uber!

I wouldn't think there's fines if you operated outside of normal Uber areas as long as you're a registered driver with a valid authority card. If it's legal in NSW I would think it applies to the whole state?

Perhaps just a scare tactic from the local taxis!
It would be easy to run it from the The community fab page..... however I'm guessing the local taxi company would report it straight away. Plus too illegal for me!
 

jimmylaz

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So fetch in other words.... if I was to stay in scone and wanted to operate on the cheap - i would need to reg a business, not advertise... did this include FB?? Only take trips that's are prebooked in Advanced (30 min >)and that's really it?? Seems too easy....

Scone horse festival is on here in may which is a pretty large event over a week. I like your idea with pre bookings and running your own shuttle at festivals.
 

Mr Fetch It

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So fetch in other words.... if I was to stay in scone and wanted to operate on the cheap - i would need to reg a business, not advertise... did this include FB?? Only take trips that's are prebooked in Advanced (30 min >)and that's really it?? Seems too easy....

Scone horse festival is on here in may which is a pretty large event over a week. I like your idea with pre bookings and running your own shuttle at festivals.
Yup. You still need your DA though, and commercial insurance, the advertising is tricky, as word of mouth is OK, but paid advertising isn't. I don't use Facebook for mine, but the other guy, ToddsTransfers Facebook is his only advertisement, plus he has a webpage with the booking form on that. And he pays for his own reserved car space at the airport :smiles:

*edit: so check the act through the RMS page, but bookings need passenger details, from destination, to destination, time booked, time pickup.
 

WollyDriver

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Are you sure the legislation states 30 minutes? I think it only states pre-booked, similar to Uber, which is pre-booked (ie, book at the time you want it, but before the driver shows up). Think of yourself as a hire car driver (without HC plates, so you can't drive in a bus lane lol none in scone I would guess)
Also, the no advertising is just on the car itself, you can advertise anywhere else you like. Again, this is to avoid the street hail when they see you driving past.
For a big event, you can do your own uber pool. Since everyone will want to leave the event around the same time, and they are all going to the same area (small town), then it should be doable. Just charge 65% of your full rate to each pax
Also, use one of the many uber meter apps to calculate the fares, you can set it to use uberx rates, or you can adjust by editing the "surge" rate if you wanted to charge extra.
Finally, you probably need to accept cash, unless you have a portable eftpos machine......
Oh, or you could speak to go catch who might decide to launch in the town since they have a driver and a promise of pax, but if you are only there for 6 weeks, then they might not be so keen...
 

Mr Fetch It

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Portable eftpos is good. But probs not worth it for 6 weeks. I've got an Albert at $60 a month. And yes, sorry advertising is on the car. My bad.
 
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