The idiots have woken up.

Immoralized

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No doubt. Better than none does not been "good" though

The reason this isn't the case with surgical masks is that they don't form a seal around the nose and mouth.



Again, not quite. Surgical masks catch a lot of the droplet's etc that are exhaled because it's right next to the mouth.

Just because they are n95/P2 doesn't mean they form a seal. All it means is that it filters 95% of particulate matter that passes through the filter. If there's no seal then a lot of stuff is going to go round the sides and thus be unfiltered.

Not quite. Takes 10

Not quite, takes 10ish days to form an immune response and one of the reasons it's more serious is that the body doesn't create as strong an immune response in the upper respiratory tract, which is what it primarily effects.



Those ones above you've said it will "bounce off" are carriers until the immune system clears it out.
Been a lot of cases where people got tested just because they came into contact with someone they knew that tested positive for it so they test themselves even though they feel hundred percent normal and find themselves tested positive. For those that manages to catch it and have it and are positive and don't present any symptoms ever is the real risk.

They are not really certified n95 mask or p95 if they don't form a seal. They are just fancy surgical mask with filters pads that are rated n95 something. Which are still better then just a normal surgical mask. Actually those washable cotton surgical mask are the most bang for ur buck $$$ as it creating a physical barrier and you can wash it without throwing it away.
 

ghrdrd

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If we assume that the hospital staff in the picture below are HEALTHY & NOT infected with CV-19 (since they are at work), and hence they ARE NOT wearing the masks to stop infecting others, WHY are they wearing masks if they masks are not effective?

If @fraqtl as you say the masks DOES NOT protect YOU when YOU wear it from being infected by others, WHY does every health worker/nurse/doctor wear one?

The Govt and WHO lie about masks, they want all masks to protect themselves + healthcare workers, at the expense of the population.

If masks did not protect you from getting infected, every nurse/doctor should remove their masks and go bare.

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These 3 should listen to the WHO and take off their masks immediately, as the masks don't protect them (look at the huge space the lady in the middle has on the side of her mask - how can it protect her? And she is a medical professional?!?!):

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All these nurses below are pretty dumb too then? Why they are wearing masks if the masks don't work? And they are simple masks, not N95, not respirators! What's going on here? Somebody send them the link to the WHO announcement!


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Been a lot of cases where people got tested just because they came into contact with someone they knew that tested positive for it so they test themselves even though they feel hundred percent normal and find themselves tested positive. For those that manages to catch it and have it and are positive and don't present any symptoms ever is the real risk.

They are not really certified n95 mask or p95 if they don't form a seal. They are just fancy surgical mask with filters pads that are rated n95 something. Which are still better then just a normal surgical mask. Actually those washable cotton surgical mask are the most bang for ur buck $$$ as it creating a physical barrier and you can wash it without throwing it away.
But look at all the educated, professional medical staff wearing cheap-ass non-rated masks, like in the pics above. If wearing masks is as BS as the FAKE WHO/Govt says, why the heck are nurses and doctors scrambling for them?
 
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Immoralized

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If we assume that the hospital staff in the picture below are HEALTHY & NOT infected with CV-19 (since they are at work), and hence they ARE NOT wearing the masks to stop infecting others, WHY are they wearing masks if they masks are not effective?

If @fraqtl as you say the masks DOES NOT protect YOU when YOU wear it from being infected by others, WHY does every health worker/nurse/doctor wear one?

The Govt and WHO lie about masks, they want all masks to protect themselves + healthcare workers, at the expense of the population.

If masks did not protect you from getting infected, every nurse/doctor should remove their masks and go bare.

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These 3 should listen to the WHO and take off their masks immediately, as the masks don't protect them (look at the huge space the lady in the middle has on the side of her mask - how can it protect her? And she is a medical professional?!?!):

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All these nurses below are pretty dumb too then? Why they are wearing masks if the masks don't work? And they are simple masks, not N95, not respirators! What's going on here? Somebody send them the link to the WHO announcement!


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But look at all the educated, professional medical staff wearing cheap-ass non-rated masks, like in the pics above. If wearing masks is as BS as the FAKE WHO/Govt says, why the heck are nurses and doctors scrambling for them?
Was a company that made the best body armour in the world called dragonskin.


The government killed the company because the body armour was too good and too expensive for their regular soldiers and those regular soldiers that went out and bought it with their own $$$ was told they would not be covered for any medical insurance if they used any gear that isn't issued to them so they had to wear crap body armour that couldn't stop much.

Yet CIA operators and all of the special forces wore guess what? Yep Dragonskin body armor and they eventually reversed engineered it for themselves when the company went under. These body armour stops bullets that would usually tear through light armoured vehicle steel like if it was butter.

Then again it be scary out in the field with a bunch of rag heads with this body armour where machine guns are ineffective :p Where you'll need a 40 or 50 caliber machine gun to take them out.

These body armours were good enough for generals, VIP and special forces but apparently wasn't good enough for the regular cannon fodders :p The pentagon went as far as banning dragonskin body armours so they ultimately collapsed. They didn't care anymore they have copied the tech already.
 
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fraqtl

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If we assume that the hospital staff in the picture below are HEALTHY & NOT infected with CV-19 (since they are at work), and hence they ARE NOT wearing the masks to stop infecting others, WHY are they wearing masks if they masks are not effective?

If @fraqtl as you say the masks DOES NOT protect YOU when YOU wear it from being infected by others, WHY does every health worker/nurse/doctor wear one?

The Govt and WHO lie about masks, they want all masks to protect themselves + healthcare workers, at the expense of the population.

If masks did not protect you from getting infected, every nurse/doctor should remove their masks and go bare.

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These 3 should listen to the WHO and take off their masks immediately, as the masks don't protect them (look at the huge space the lady in the middle has on the side of her mask - how can it protect her? And she is a medical professional?!?!):

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All these nurses below are pretty dumb too then? Why they are wearing masks if the masks don't work? And they are simple masks, not N95, not respirators! What's going on here? Somebody send them the link to the WHO announcement!


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But look at all the educated, professional medical staff wearing cheap-ass non-rated masks, like in the pics above. If wearing masks is as BS as the FAKE WHO/Govt says, why the heck are nurses and doctors scrambling for them?
Wearing masks in a hospital is different to wearing them out in public. The main reason for the difference is that hospital gear needs to be disposible, using reusable stuff is not feasible and thus the disposible masks are the most cost effective option.

For the general public, what I've said applies.

Don't get strident and weird about the conversation. What I'm saying is not made up, there's plenty of experts saying the same thing. The WHO is not out to get you.

Please stop looking for a fight all the time.
 

ghrdrd

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What about if you're in a car for 30 minutes driving a nurse home from her shift in ER, and she coughs a few times. Little does she know she was infected 3 nights ago, and is just starting to show symptoms that afternoon. Will a mask help you?

What about if you're in a Paki to Flinders train stuck in a full carriage for 55 mins with a few people coughing and sneezing in the cold morning air. Will a mask protect you?

Any peer reviewed papers to back up either side of the argument?
 

fraqtl

Well-Known Member
Will a mask help you?
If we are talking about those surgical face masks, then if she's wearing one then yes it will. If I'm the only one wearing one it won't.

Which is why I wear a half face respirator.

You seem to have changed sides in this particular debate.

Once again looking for a fight. Please stop it.
 

ST DYMPHNA son

Well-Known Member
...either one is a female and complain, or one is not a female and use "misogyny " not even knowing a meaning of it !!!!...
...I would advise to check what a "racist " stands for before calling anyone one too...

...OK...I am out of this thread...if it was only so easy to be immune to covid 19 like some are immune to a logic...Bye...

Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny manifests in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, disenfranchisement of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.[1][2] Misogyny can be found within sacred texts of religions, mythologies, and Western philosophy[1][3] and Eastern philosophy.
 
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New_cabbie

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Once more. I'm a dude. Calling me otherwise illustrates your misogyny.
Easy on labels how was i supposed to know your gender, saw everyone calling you Miss so assumed that to be the case, no judgement either way, what you do behind closed doors is your business in 2020.
 

fraqtl

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either one is a female and complain, or one is not a female and use "misogyny " not even knowing a meaning of it !!!!...
No. It's misogyny because you are issuing calling me female as an insult, which means you find women to be somehow bad. Which fits with the definition you quoted.
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Easy on labels how was i supposed to know your gender,
Because I've stated it many, many times.

On the off chance you didn't know, fine. Now you know.
 
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