1. UberPeople.NET - Independent community of rideshare drivers. It's FREE to be a person and enjoy all the benefits of membership. JOIN US! CLICK HERE

The Great Instant Pay Panic of 2018

Discussion in 'Pay' started by anteetr, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. anteetr

    anteetr

    Location:
    Lower Bucks, PA
    Driving:
    UberXL
    After reading some of the threads on here and other social media about it, I am now convinced that instant pay is the single most exploitative tool that Uber has to allow them to take advantage of people. Paycheck to paycheck is so 2000s. Now people can't go 6 hours without getting paid or they'll starve?!?!?? o_O

    :eek: Not for anything, but if your ability to plan for known and certain expenses is so poor that you need to use instant pay for your daily fill up you have no business being in business for yourself. You are the reason this job pays used dog food. I bet you made more money at McDonalds and flipping burgers is probably a better career move for you anyway. I hear they're hiring :eek:
     
  2. mrpjfresh

    mrpjfresh

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    Driving:
    UberX
    I knew things were bad but never knew the extent to which they were with other drivers. Maybe I just didn't want to. I sympathize but this also shows that there will never be true solidarity among drivers. I have almost nothing in common with the guy or girl relying on Instapay just to put gas in their tank every shift aside from the sticker in the corner of the windshield. We might as well be on different planets. If you can't squirrel away a few bucks a week even for gas, what happens when something catastrophic happens?

    I'm not a fan of blanket regulation but when a company is so consumed with avarice and power while exploiting the desperate, what is the best recourse? Idk. Who knew a driver payment bug/hack/ whatever would be so telling and paint such a bleak picture. It won't change anything though. Just add it to the pile with greyball, paying off hackers, stealing tech and corporate espionage, weak background checks, upfront pricing and surge, etc etc etc....
     
  3. Atom guy

    Atom guy

    Location:
    CT
    Yeah, it's pretty sad how many drivers are literally living from trip to trip.
     
  4. Lee239

    Lee239

    Location:
    Lee county fl
    One day your great grandkids will ask where were you when 9/11 and the Uber instant pay problem happened. :D
     
  5. jlong105

    jlong105

    Location:
    Indiana
    Driving:
    UberX
    I could care less about the instant pay. My complaint was that I could not instantly check the trips and ensure Uber paid correctly. I did not feel like keeping a notebook of all the trips, so I stuck with Lyft for the day.
     
    chris.nella2, gaealien, -JR- and 21 others like this.
  6. There would not have been a panic if Uber people would tip in cash just only 10% of the time.
     
  7. Fozzie

    Fozzie

    Location:
    32779
    Driving:
    UberX
    InstantPay doesn't mean that a person is living trip to trip. It also doesn't mean that you should question and criticize other people.

    What amazes me is how many people whine and complain about how Uber and Lyft are stealing their money, but also insist that Uber and Lyft hold their precious money until "payday" like an average W2 ant.
     
  8. Also, if you were to work at a Pizza place you get to go home with the tips that day. Instant pay is a way of getting daily money like the pizza places.
     
  9. This was a sad glitch, but I think it highlights Uber's strength

    Uber is an opportunity for those with no opportunities
    For those who cant hold down a regular job
    The old, disabled, etc
    Minorities, immigrants

    Uber is a light in the darkness for them...it is not meant to compete on wages etc with McDonalds

    ubers not just for broke people but broken people
     
    x100, Slim Pete, Doughie and 19 others like this.
  10. Watch it....don't be racist. Plenty of minorities can hold down regular jobs.
     
  11. stevenh1975

    stevenh1975

    Location:
    Honolulu
    I like instant pay when it's free. Money is sitting in my bank making interest instead uber making interest.
     
    MoreTips, jgiun1 and columbuscatlady like this.
  12. anteetr

    anteetr

    Location:
    Lower Bucks, PA
    Driving:
    UberXL
    I been doing this 3+ years and it's not the first time they've had this processing glitch, though this is the first time I remember it spanning days. Because it's not my first rodeo, I know they always pay and though I like to check my progress too, they have never shorted me a nickel on a trip unless they miss a toll, and they've never beat me for one of those either.

    I think a lot of drivers did what you did where I drive because uber surged more than usual all weekend while lyft prime time was really scarce. I had a great weekend, all Uber.
     
  13. Atom guy

    Atom guy

    Location:
    CT
    Yeah, I was more annoyed that I couldn't keep track of my earnings, so I didn't know how I was doing towards my daily goal.
     
  14. anteetr

    anteetr

    Location:
    Lower Bucks, PA
    Driving:
    UberXL
    I'd say for most it does. At least day to day. If the average ant had to float their gasoline expense for one week they'd be back at Walmart by week two.

    You miss the point. It's nice that it's there and convenient as hell if you need the money now. My problem is with the people who need it now every day or even multiple times per day. These people are desperate and allow themselves to be exploited. They have no business being self employed. The existence of instant pay allows Uber to increase the supply of desperate and/or dumb drivers to exploit for their benefit. It's predatory.
     
    MoreTips and jgiun1 like this.
  15. Fozzie

    Fozzie

    Location:
    32779
    Driving:
    UberX
    Regardless of circumstance, it's not our place to "save" other drivers from themselves, nor is it our job to dictate how they spend their earnings. People do this for so much more than just making ends meet, and to assume control of their finances because you rely on it for necessities is disingenuous.

    I cash out everyday for Uber and Lyft. That I choose to spend $3-5 a week for immediate access to my money doesn't mean that I'm desperate and on the cusp of homelessness. Uber/Lyft make up less than 10% of my gross income, but to me, immediate access to my money ensures that my money is safe where I want it, and not pending somewhere that Uber/Lyft want it. One day when these money losers fold still holding your earnings, you'll understand why.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2018
  16. Lmao...sad, that you that you feel emboldened enough to type this bull****.
     
  17. polar2017

    polar2017

    Location:
    NNJ
    Not sure if your post was poking fun of the situation.
    Either way, you took a cheap shot at many people. Holy smokes.
     
  18. anteetr

    anteetr

    Location:
    Lower Bucks, PA
    Driving:
    UberXL
    It's one thing to have to do it because you want to because you're paranoid. I respect that. It's quite another because you need to because you're desperate. That person should quit fooling themselves and get a job.

    The risk of U/L going tits up in any given week is minuscule. They both have years of cash on hand at current burn rates and I've already saved a weeks worth of earnings in instant pay fees over the last 3+ years by not using it. If and when they implode it will be one of the worst kept secrets of all time and hopefully I'll be done by then anyway.

    Another member said something similar awhile back and I think this was poking fun at that poster directly.
     
  19. jgiun1

    jgiun1

    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Dude, it wasn't just instant pay, it was the lack of updated ride counts and earnings.

    I did a ride Sunday for 228 miles and was shorted $105.....took two days, two calls- two emails to actually get the money I was shorted out by an Uber mistake. (My post in stories)
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2018
    Rakos, Ezridax, MadTownUberD and 7 others like this.
  20. rman954

    rman954

    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    Driving:
    UberX
    Uber should break in to payday loans and "driver shops" like back in the day of the mining company owning the town and the general store. They could even build housing!
     

Share This Page