So what's the rule on pets?

Rodman

Member
Had a pax ask me if it's OK to take his dog with him and he would hold him. I said ok but wasn't sure what the rules were. The dog was pretty small and I felt bad for the guy. He and his wife were at the park and car was vandalized after she left her purse on the seat. He had to rush home since her set of keys were in her purse. Dropped him and the dog off no tip sympathy out the window.
 

Elmo Burrito

Well-Known Member
Any animal can be classified as a service animal if the pax "says" "it's a service animal" guys. Well, as long as you can get it into your car lol! You have to take it into your car no ifs ands or buts! And, you can't ask to see the proof, if its a bonified service animal or not! We, (as a society) should've taken a stand against this, when people started bringing service animals into grocery stores 10 years ago. Unless it's legit (like if the person's blind of course). Read Ubers service animal policy.
I wonder, what Uber will do when one of our Muslim drivers gets caught refusing to take an animal into their car, and sites religious grounds for doing so?
 

darkshy77

Well-Known Member
Had a pax ask me if it's OK to take his dog with him and he would hold him. I said ok but wasn't sure what the rules were. The dog was pretty small and I felt bad for the guy. He and his wife were at the park and car was vandalized after she left her purse on the seat. He had to rush home since her set of keys were in her purse. Dropped him and the dog off no tip sympathy out the window.
situation you describe to did the right thing,
Now why did he not leave it with her
 

tohunt4me

Well-Known Member
Had a pax ask me if it's OK to take his dog with him and he would hold him. I said ok but wasn't sure what the rules were. The dog was pretty small and I felt bad for the guy. He and his wife were at the park and car was vandalized after she left her purse on the seat. He had to rush home since her set of keys were in her purse. Dropped him and the dog off no tip sympathy out the window.
You did the right thing.
Many of the best hotels accept pets now.
 

UberCadi

Well-Known Member
Any animal can be classified as a service animal if the pax "says" "it's a service animal" guys. Well, as long as you can get it into your car lol! You have to take it into your car no ifs ands or buts! And, you can't ask to see the proof, if its a bonified service animal or not! We, (as a society) should've taken a stand against this, when people started bringing service animals into grocery stores 10 years ago. Unless it's legit (like if the person's blind of course). Read Ubers service animal policy.
I wonder, what Uber will do when one of our Muslim drivers gets caught refusing to take an animal into their car, and sites religious grounds for doing so?
And, and true service dog does not have to have proof or ID, but many try to get something because people expect there is some "license" but their isn't. A doctors note is about as legit as you can get with a service dog.
 

tripAces

Well-Known Member
Channel 2 just had a special report on service animals. Seems the kit to say your animal is one is not tough to buy online. Certificate, service animal vest, license, etc are sent to the purchaser. Just allows dishonest people to get away with something else.

Op as far as regular pets it is up to the driver. I carried a blanket like some have stated to keep seats clean. If you don't accept the ride the only recourse is them emailing Uber your refused. And then Uber acting stupid afterward.
 

RoadRunnerTX

Active Member
Service animals require special training, support animals do not and are not covered under the ADA. You CAN ask what the dog's special training is. If they bluster or don't answer right away, the dog is not a service animal. And, service animals are almost always dogs - anything other than dogs and miniature horses require special exceptions and are exceedingly rare.
 

UberMensch2015

Well-Known Member
pets - up to you
emotional support animals - up to you
service animals - yes, no ifs ands or buts

Under the ADA you are allowed to ask 1) is that a service animal? and, if they say yes 2) what is it trained to do. If they answer yes and then follow it with some variation of "calm me down" you can refuse as that is an ESA, not a Service animal. If they answer anything else, anything physically related, you have to take it even if you know they are lying.
 

UberMensch2015

Well-Known Member
FYI, here is a discussion: https://www.animallaw.info/article/faqs-emotional-support-animals#s1

2. What is the difference between a service animal and an emotional support animal?
Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. These tasks can include things like pulling a wheelchair, guiding a person who is visually impaired, alerting a person who is having a seizure, or even calming a person who suffers from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. The tasks a service dog can perform are not limited to this list. However, the work or task a service dog does must be directly related to the person's disability. Service dogs may accompany persons with disabilities into places that the public normally goes. This includes state and local government buildings, businesses open to the public, public transportation, and non-profit organizations open to the public. The law that allows a trained service dog to accompany a person with a disability is the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

An emotional support animal is an animal (typically a dog or cat though this can include other species) that provides a therapeutic benefit to its owner through companionship. The animal provides emotional support and comfort to individuals with psychiatric disabilities and other mental impairments. The animal is not specifically trained to perform tasks for a person who suffers from emotional disabilities. Unlike a service animal, an emotional support animal is not granted access to places of public accommodation. Under the federal Fair Housing Act (FHA), an emotional support animal is viewed as a "reasonable accommodation" in a housing unit that has a "no pets" rule for its residents.
 

RoadRunnerTX

Active Member
pets - up to you
emotional support animals - up to you
service animals - yes, no ifs ands or buts

Under the ADA you are allowed to ask 1) is that a service animal? and, if they say yes 2) what is it trained to do. If they answer yes and then follow it with some variation of "calm me down" you can refuse as that is an ESA, not a Service animal. If they answer anything else, anything physically related, you have to take it even if you know they are lying.
Spot on. From what I've heard, when they're lying, they don't have the lie prepared, so they very obviously bluster, hem and haw, and stall for time while they try to make up a lie that sounds plausible. When they fail to answer in a reasonable amount of time, that's your window to GTFO if you are so inclined.
Disclaimer: Not legal advice, etc.
 

really not

Member
Any animal can be classified as a service animal if the pax "says" "it's a service animal" guys. Well, as long as you can get it into your car lol! You have to take it into your car no ifs ands or buts! And, you can't ask to see the proof, if its a bonified service animal or not! We, (as a society) should've taken a stand against this, when people started bringing service animals into grocery stores 10 years ago. Unless it's legit (like if the person's blind of course). Read Ubers service animal policy.
I wonder, what Uber will do when one of our Muslim drivers gets caught refusing to take an animal into their car, and sites religious grounds for doing so?

Fake service dog registration becomes a crime in Florida
A new law will punish those who misrepresent their pets as service animals and businesses who refuse service to people with service animals
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/new...ration-becomes-a-crime-in-florida-070715.html
 

UberCadi

Well-Known Member
Fake service dog registration becomes a crime in Florida
A new law will punish those who misrepresent their pets as service animals and businesses who refuse service to people with service animals
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/new...ration-becomes-a-crime-in-florida-070715.html
2 yr old article.

Service dogs are hard to validate. They don't have to have any sort of license or certificate. The demeanor of a dog does not always give clarity of if it's a service dog or not. Take a diabetic alert dog in comparison to a service dog to the blind. The diabetic alert dogs come in all breads and sizes and being well trained to be obedient and behaved in public is not for sure an expected behavior. That's not what they are trained for.

I know people don't believe that emotional support pets are service animals. But I believe they ARE, and can be and serve a major purpose for the right people.

Granted, because the looseness of no service dog certification, it gets abused. Best thing is to have a dr provide some sort of note that can be referenced. It's a very gray. In a court battle, most times the disabled person is going to prevail.
 

Trebor

Well-Known Member
2 yr old article.

Service dogs are hard to validate. They don't have to have any sort of license or certificate. The demeanor of a dog does not always give clarity of if it's a service dog or not. Take a diabetic alert dog in comparison to a service dog to the blind. The diabetic alert dogs come in all breads and sizes and being well trained to be obedient and behaved in public is not for sure an expected behavior. That's not what they are trained for.

I know people don't believe that emotional support pets are service animals. But I believe they ARE, and can be and serve a major purpose for the right people.

Granted, because the looseness of no service dog certification, it gets abused. Best thing is to have a dr provide some sort of note that can be referenced. It's a very gray. In a court battle, most times the disabled person is going to prevail.

Truly disabled will always win in front of a jury.
 

UsedToBeAPartner

Well-Known Member
Take the ride. If the animal makes a mess, report it, clean it up and move on. There are way too many ways for this to go completely shitty is you choose any other course. If you have animal alergies you are going to bring along the "cure" since denying to take a service animal will result in instant termination. Dash cams folks. When it's he said, she said, the rider always wins.
 
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