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Service Animal Discussion

Discussion in 'Toronto' started by Ride-sharing since 77, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. Ride-sharing since 77

    Ride-sharing since 77 New Member

    Location:
    Hamilton
    I knew a guy who was terrified of dogs, no matter how small. Even a Mexican Chihuahua would terrify him. It would be a dangerous mistake to force someone like that to drive passengers with service animals.

    Some of the people in the thread claim to have pet allergies. Should they be forced to take service animals?

    And what about those who have strong religious beliefs about dogs? Whose rights rights should prevail in our new utopian socialist caste system?

    I prefer one of the greatest achievements of Western civilization, the now deceased ideal of equal rights for all. In accordance with Rand's statement,

    "Any alleged right of one person which necessitates the violation of the rights of another is not, and can never be a "right."

    According to that simple formula, there would be no question about the Ubercab driver's right to refuse service animals.

    And there's no reason it should be a problem in the first place. There will always be drivers willing to take service animals. The installation of a simple marker or flag in each driver account indicating a desire to accommodate service animals (or anything else, for that matter, including heavy bags or luggage and wheelchairs, tobacco use, racial or ethnic background, music preferences, intelligence, alcohol, prostitutes, drug addicts, people who stink like corpses, etc.) would solve most driver/rider incompatibility issues.

    Everyone could be happy. It's the manifestation of Milton Friedman's "Unanimity vs. conformity" argument in favor of the free market vs. the coercive democracy lorded over by slick, mendacious, manipulative, sociopathic, and above all, uninsightful politicians we must all presently endure.

    Instead, the politicians opt for brutal mandates, the equivalent of using a legislative sledge hammer to force square pegs into round holes. It creates nothing less than a social pressure cooker. A war of all against all. It's dumb and it's evil.

    It also explains why all socialist regimes eventually descend into chaos and mass murder. If the sledge hammer isn't big enough, try a bigger one. And if that doesn't work, use internment camps, guns, gas chambers, and gulags.

    For my part, I have never refused animals in my cab. In fact, they are often preferable to many of my "human" passengers.
     
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  2. i_k

    i_k Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Good idea, although some of the examples you give (I would think exaggerations) should be left out. Having a check list of what each driver is willing to accommodate is beneficial to all parties. I’m not sure of the legality of this, but it’s something Uber should look into.
     
  3. MUGATS

    MUGATS Moderator Moderator

    Location:
    Hamilton
    So you’re advocating a system where a govt licensed service can actively discriminate against certain ethnicities, races, sex, handicap.

    Great idea. :rolleyes:

    You should stop quoting that old bat Rand as well.

    Spent most of her life rallying against Socialism and spent the last 20 years of it sucking from its socialist teet.

    Biggest hypocrite ever.
     
  4. i_k

    i_k Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Ethnicities, races, sex, handicap is out of line. But things like pets, smoking, groceries, small furniture, and some others along that line would be useful to prevent a driver having to drive to the pickup just to have to cancel.

    BTW your new avatar is freaking me out. Bring back Bob Ross’ contagious smile, please.. :)
     
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  5. PapaPaul

    PapaPaul Active Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Driving:
    UberX
    I wonder if Karl Marx is going to make an appearance here.
     
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  6. Darshit

    Darshit Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Calgary
    How much will i get as cleaning fee if service animal poops on my ventilated seat?
     
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  7. erexa

    erexa Well-Known Member

    What a dumb post
     
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  8. Ride-sharing since 77

    Ride-sharing since 77 New Member

    Location:
    Hamilton
    I advocate a system which maximizes the opportunities for app based taxi dispatch software to match compatible riders with drivers. I am sorry if such an objective offends you.

    I suggest you stick to the specific content of the Ayn Rand quote rather than resorting to character assassination. Ayn Rand was human, therefore she had her flaws, whether or not your accusations are accurate. Are you flawless?

    Regarding the quote. Since you object to its use, it appears you prefer the alternative - a system where some individuals are granted the legal "right" to violate the rights of others. I don't doubt that you are sincere. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point.
     
  9. erexa

    erexa Well-Known Member

    where is the signature?

    "I am complete r@tard"
     
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  10. Darshit

    Darshit Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Calgary
    Wonder if your opinion will change when one of those animals chew on your leather seat and uber will tell you: oops, sorry there' 1000$ deductible. Looks like you are not aware that animals droppings stink like theres no tommorow. No cleaning solution can tackle them. Maybe in a month it will air itself out. Or uber might tell you that service animals are exempt from cleaning fees or compensateted on a lesser level than pax droppings. Those are all legitimate concerns
     
  11. erexa

    erexa Well-Known Member

    A dumb reply to the dump post.

    If you are unhappy with such possible outcomes, STOP driving for uber. It is a choice to drive for uber, but refusing service animals is not a choice. Both Ontario and Canadian human rights codes BAR people and businesses from refusing service animals.

    If you are dumb enough not to get it and even dumber to advocate how wrong this is, than you simply do not belong to this country. Get back to where you came from or if you were born here simply drown yourself in a nearest lake !
     
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  12. Darshit

    Darshit Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Calgary
    What a dumb post
     
  13. Service animals will not be chewing on your seats. They are more trained and disciplined than you and Ride-sharing since 77Ride-sharing since 77. You two will probably bite and piss and poop on your seats before the service dog.
     
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  14. Deoxlar

    Deoxlar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Driving:
    UberX
    Why waste time with clowns and trolls.
     
  15. erexa

    erexa Well-Known Member

    You can be fined up to $5000.
    This should work with Hardiks, Sugdeeps and all these types ...
     
  16. Darshit

    Darshit Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Calgary
    I am pretty sure lots of them quite dumb. Plus irresistible smell of leather seat , don' forget they are animals. I would strongly suggest you check your seat after dropping off service animal
     
  17. imsam

    imsam Active Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    Damn this is getting in my nerves. Wtf? I might consider buying seat covers.
     

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  18. dmoney155

    dmoney155 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    I said it before, will say it again, why people care so much about being on uber?, is it like next best thing or what? If they kick you out cuz you dont like dog, then so be it. who cares.
     
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  19. imsam

    imsam Active Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    I don't know about you but I kinda like having an opportunity to make at least $1500 a month.
     
  20. dmoney155

    dmoney155 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    I guess, but there are other opportunities to do that too.
     

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