Ride to DC with no Long Distance (45 min+) marker??

pilotride

Active Member
So let me paint you a picture. Sunday 8PM, Huntington Valley, X request comes thru, close by, no markers, 5 stars, accept. Me trying to stay local messaging pax for destination.

Anna calls. Says she's going to Washington, DC. 3 hours away, 170-something miles one way. Erm... I hesitate. Then mention I don't get paid for the return to PA and unless she is willing to cover that in cash upfront, it's a no go for me. Perhaps my negotiation/salesmanship skills weren't best, she says it's ok and asks me to cancel the ride. I agree as I'm not particularly eager to spend 6 hours driving and return home after 2 am when I was planning on staying local for a couple of rides.

Couple min after that another request, same location, no Long Distance notification. Accept. Different name - Rhc or something. This time phone rings and before I hear the person, prerecorded message says - "...This conversation may/will be recorded...". I don't think I ever heard that, usually it just says it's your Uber passenger.

On the phone it's the same pax from before saying again she's going to DC. I give her the same spiel, this time choosing words carefully, hinting about the upfront return reimbursement. She won't budge. Hang up, cancel.

I figured doing base rate X to DC would gross me around $180. That's also a tank of gas and 6+ hours behind the wheel. No, thank you. I looked up pax app and it quoted me $200 for a similar ride to DC.

How is this even allowed?
And if I got there and started a ride to find out where she's going, it would have been super awkward. 1 star for me for sure, not that I really care.
Would you have taken it? And if so, how much would you quote cash?
And did you have similar issue with no DF marker showing on a long ride?
 

bobby747

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I say in another thread be careful asking for money.
she was scorned. so she found a way to record. you. I am not sure . but asking for xtra cash is against AOS...
all she cared about was getting to d.c. not about you making shit on ride
 

bobby747

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i turned down a state college on a sunday a while ago. as he was willing to give me $100 xtra ..i wanted $200...
i won as i was happy with a great week and home having a great dinner as i would have had 3 hours to still drive...my van is poor mpg city 14 hwy 23
 

MoneyMitch

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So let me paint you a picture. Sunday 8PM, Huntington Valley, X request comes thru, close by, no markers, 5 stars, accept. Me trying to stay local messaging pax for destination.

Anna calls. Says she's going to Washington, DC. 3 hours away, 170-something miles one way. Erm... I hesitate. Then mention I don't get paid for the return to PA and unless she is willing to cover that in cash upfront, it's a no go for me. Perhaps my negotiation/salesmanship skills weren't best, she says it's ok and asks me to cancel the ride. I agree as I'm not particularly eager to spend 6 hours driving and return home after 2 am when I was planning on staying local for a couple of rides.

Couple min after that another request, same location, no Long Distance notification. Accept. Different name - Rhc or something. This time phone rings and before I hear the person, prerecorded message says - "...This conversation may/will be recorded...". I don't think I ever heard that, usually it just says it's your Uber passenger.

On the phone it's the same pax from before saying again she's going to DC. I give her the same spiel, this time choosing words carefully, hinting about the upfront return reimbursement. She won't budge. Hang up, cancel.

I figured doing base rate X to DC would gross me around $180. That's also a tank of gas and 6+ hours behind the wheel. No, thank you. I looked up pax app and it quoted me $200 for a similar ride to DC.

How is this even allowed?
And if I got there and started a ride to find out where she's going, it would have been super awkward. 1 star for me for sure, not that I really care.
Would you have taken it? And if so, how much would you quote cash?
And did you have similar issue with no DF marker showing on a long ride?
About two months ago, I had a trip on Uber that was 102 miles. There was no long trip warning given. It seems like over a certain distance Uber’s system does not register a trip as a long trip (I occasionally take 75 mile trips that still register with a notification).
 

pilotride

Active Member
I say in another thread be careful asking for money.
she was scorned. so she found a way to record. you. I am not sure . but asking for xtra cash is against AOS...
all she cared about was getting to d.c. not about you making shit on ride
Hm... I didn't think of that. She might have used some app or service to do the recording of her own.
 

Bryce Harper

Active Member
Uber knows long distance trips aren’t worth it anymore. Perhaps that pax had many drivers refuse the ride so Uber dropped the 45 min warning. Don’t be surprised to see that go away completely seeing as how Uber has now painted itself into a corner with fare reductions and DF socialism.
 

anteetr

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Uber knows long distance trips aren’t worth it anymore. Perhaps that pax had many drivers refuse the ride so Uber dropped the 45 min warning. Don’t be surprised to see that go away completely seeing as how Uber has now painted itself into a corner with fare reductions and DF socialism.

Maybe they should change any ride that takes you out of your market to an automatic 2x surge for the driver. Problem solved.
 

pilotride

Active Member
Maybe they should change any ride that takes you out of your market to an automatic 2x surge for the driver. Problem solved.
Would have been the right thing to do, but then again drivers don't get a say in this matter.

There's probably someone desperate enough who took her at base rate. I just hope it was a beater prius of sorts that made it there and back reasonably on gas.
 

bobby747

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here a problem i see with uber on long trips..price is $200 uber grabs only say $50 cause fare is low....$2 booking fee......
uber computers think same driver can do 8 rides in a close area at $16 booking fee and 40% of the fares..this is the trend i think they are going...away from long distance...why make $50 on a nyc when i do wav sure at $50 and they took $25
 

Bryce Harper

Active Member
Last Thursday I was driving Lyft during dinner rush. As Lyft auto accepts rides I had no warning on a shared ride to Long Branch NJ from Norristown. Estimated time of 1 hour 40 minutes. I told dude no and he offered me 100$ cash if we cancelled the ride and I just took him. I’m still cleaning out the smell from when I pissed myself laughing at his lowball offer.
 

Ardery

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the one time I drive a pax to DC and happily deadheaded back. happened during a nor'easter. lots of downed trees caused an outage on the entire northeast corridor rail line. took a very long time to get there. the bridge that goes over the susquehanna was shut down, causing all traffic to be forced off i-95. the 40 bridge was also closed. the route 1 bridge was open, but the traffic backup going to it was brutal.

I also received a $50 cash tip.

the map data on the ride was wrong, not sure why it shows me taking the capemay ferry.


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MoneyMitch

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Last Thursday I was driving Lyft during dinner rush. As Lyft auto accepts rides I had no warning on a shared ride to Long Branch NJ from Norristown. Estimated time of 1 hour 40 minutes. I told dude no and he offered me 100$ cash if we cancelled the ride and I just took him. I’m still cleaning out the smell from when I pissed myself laughing at his lowball offer.
I’ve never seen a LT warning on Lyft shared. On multiple occasions, I’ve had people take long trips on shared without a LT warning. During the summer, a drunk Lyft passenger requested a shared ride from Avalon back to Villanova. I never saw the passenger and I got a quick $5.00
 

DelaJoe

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I always take Long Trips from Delaware or the Beaches or the Maryland Beaches. Even if I don't get a tip and have to pay the return tolls it is still usually around 25-35$ / hour and that includes deadheading all the way back. My last one on Uber I did not get a long trip warning. My last one on Lyft I did the other day. I want long trips. These are usually airport rides and they are usually business or professional people that can afford to pay the money. A tip is nice but I understand if the rider does not want to tip. I can understand asking for more money if the trip starts in PA or Jersey where the per mile rates are significantly lower. Perhaps Uber and Lyft need to consider charging the rider a deadhead fee which will cover tolls, gas, and time spent to return home on 45+ minute trips. I would suggest about 30% of the fare + tolls. So if you are getting $200 to go to NYC...then Uber would charge another $60 on top of that to the rider and all that money goes to the driver.
 

MoneyMitch

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I always take Long Trips from Delaware or the Beaches or the Maryland Beaches. Even if I don't get a tip and have to pay the return tolls it is still usually around 25-35$ / hour and that includes deadheading all the way back. My last one on Uber I did not get a long trip warning. My last one on Lyft I did the other day. I want long trips. These are usually airport rides and they are usually business or professional people that can afford to pay the money. A tip is nice but I understand if the rider does not want to tip. I can understand asking for more money if the trip starts in PA or Jersey where the per mile rates are significantly lower. Perhaps Uber and Lyft need to consider charging the rider a deadhead fee which will cover tolls, gas, and time spent to return home on 45+ minute trips. I would suggest about 30% of the fare + tolls. So if you are getting $200 to go to NYC...then Uber would charge another $60 on top of that to the rider and all that money goes to the driver.
How long was your trip on Uber (where you didn’t receive the warning)?
 

DelaJoe

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I was in Dover De and the trip was to NYC. It was over 3 hours long.
The trip on Lyft was from Harrington De to Easton Md and it took less than an hour. I did get 45+ min trip on Lyft.
 

MoneyMitch

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I was in Dover De and the trip was to NYC. It was over 3 hours long.
The trip on Lyft was from Harrington De to Easton Md and it took less than an hour. I did get 45+ min trip on Lyft.
Hmm interesting. The 102 mile trip that I took a couple of months ago was set at just over two hours. Other trips that I’ve taken (an hour and a half) still had the LT notification
 

pilotride

Active Member
I always take Long Trips from Delaware or the Beaches or the Maryland Beaches. Even if I don't get a tip and have to pay the return tolls it is still usually around 25-35$ / hour and that includes deadheading all the way back. My last one on Uber I did not get a long trip warning. My last one on Lyft I did the other day. I want long trips. These are usually airport rides and they are usually business or professional people that can afford to pay the money. A tip is nice but I understand if the rider does not want to tip. I can understand asking for more money if the trip starts in PA or Jersey where the per mile rates are significantly lower. Perhaps Uber and Lyft need to consider charging the rider a deadhead fee which will cover tolls, gas, and time spent to return home on 45+ minute trips. I would suggest about 30% of the fare + tolls. So if you are getting $200 to go to NYC...then Uber would charge another $60 on top of that to the rider and all that money goes to the driver.
What's per mile and per minute rate in DE for the driver?
Is it different there at the beaches vs. the rest of the state?
 
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