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PTSD

Karl Marx

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I have a terrible experience to tell. While driving south on Erin Mills Parkway 40 years ago a brand new Blue Corvette was in front of me. After a traffic light gave us a green to proceed the Corvette started to accelerate very fast, the young driver lost control and went into the medium and hit a light standard. The dust cloud the car created forced traffic to come to a stop, it was a hot July day. Immediately me and several other drivers stopped to assist the driver.

As we approached the car it was complete carnage. The front end of the Corvette was completely wrapped around the light standard. The drivers' arms were wrapped around the pole and we could hear him saying, "Please, please... someone help me." He was a young man in his mid 20's. The gentlemen that I was with immediately grabbed his hand and said,
" Hold on we have help on the way."

I looked into drivers eyes and I could see his life fading away. Young man kept saying, "Please help me."

The older gentlemen, who was holding his hand, looked at me and I knew as did he that the young man was not going to make it. About 5 minutes later he passed. I was so hoping he would survive, I was saying a prayer when we saw him take his last gasp. It was so heart breaking to watch a life end in such a brutal way. The fire department arrived first and they looked at us and knew the young man was gone. They immediately surrounded the wreck with a tarp. I was so traumatized and numb I couldn't even speak. I didn't stay to give my name or tell the responders I had witnessed the accident.

I climbed back into my car and drove home. At the time I didn't know I was in shock and more than likely feeling the horrible truth of someone's life needlessly ended. I got home and was completely numb for the rest the evening and the next day. My mother was home and I told her what had happened, she was more relived I was not hurt. That night I deliberately did not watch the local news.

The reason I recall this story today was because I was thinking of the victims of the mass shooting in Thousand Oaks California today. My son was doing some cabinet work for me and I was watching the tragic news. My sister's family lived in Thousand Oaks for 20 years and we know the area. We are also from a military family and we know the after effects of war, enemy torture and being bombed as civilians.

I have been in several accidents over the years and I know when I am in shock, as I am sure many of you who have had accidents can attest to. However, to watch a life end so violently was an event I was not remotely ready for. Over the years this experience haunts me to know end. In many ways I know I suffer from PTSD, to this very day I will not stop for an accident and will not look at accidents I pass on the road. I am horrified to say that there are a couple of accidents where I should have stopped and assisted but couldn't bring myself to coming to someones assistance.

Many of the Canadian and American vets returned from combat in Iraq and throughout the middle east have all no doubt experienced my circumstance but more likely a thousand fold. For whatever reason this man decided to take his life and with him a dozen others was a last and final scream for help. America is in the beginning stages of societal anomie and I now fear this is just the begining of the unravelling of American culture and its' dysfunctional institutions.

God bless all the new gun victims in the days and weeks ahead be they republican or democrat. As the orgy of American violence escalates we should all say a prayer for our brethren south of the border. America's biggest fear is no longer the other but rather there own.
 
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Karl Marx

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"In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 of with fatalities, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000. About 2,000 children under 16 die every year in traffic collisions. Records indicate that there have been a total of 3,613,732 motor vehicle fatalities in the United States from 1899 to 2013."
 

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"In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 of with fatalities, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000. About 2,000 children under 16 die every year in traffic collisions. Records indicate that there have been a total of 3,613,732 motor vehicle fatalities in the United States from 1899 to 2013."
So, the equivalent of current population of NORWAY has died on USA roads due to human error, and we are batshit-crazy concerned about a SINGLE automated car death in Arizona in 2018?
Autonomous cars --when they are figured out-- will drop the accident/death rate by >98%. This makes it of the utmost importance in terms of worth pursuing. (Be it UBER/WAYMO/GM/Nissan)
This reminds me of the early Aughts when the world went fear-crazy for 600 or so deaths from SARS, while old fashioned INFLUENZA was murdering TENS OF THOUSANDS annually.
 

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I was lucky enough to see him in concert at the Orleans in Vegas for what ended up being his second last show.

Went Friday night and he was great. Seemed perfectly healthy

Had another show on the Saturday and then we got home and found out he had passed.

Really sucked but it was great that we saw a legend at the top of his game before he went
 

Karl Marx

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I was lucky enough to see him in concert at the Orleans in Vegas for what ended up being his second last show.

Went Friday night and he was great. Seemed perfectly healthy

Had another show on the Saturday and then we got home and found out he had passed.

Really sucked but it was great that we saw a legend at the top of his game before he went
He was incredibly ahead of his time. He probably would have made a great running mate for Bernie if the Democratic party hadn't thrown the candidacy to Clinton. In many ways I think he a was socialist and generally just a decent human being. I'm sure Trump would have not enjoyed his criticism.
 
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Kurt Halfyard

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I was lucky enough to see him in concert at the Orleans in Vegas for what ended up being his second last show.
Really sucked but it was great that we saw a legend at the top of his game before he went
He was super-cranky by the end though, some of his stuff stopped being funny and was simply *ANGRY* - certainly justified anger, but still...
 

Karl Marx

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"In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 of with fatalities, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000. About 2,000 children under 16 die every year in traffic collisions. Records indicate that there have been a total of 3,613,732 motor vehicle fatalities in the United States from 1899 to 2013."
Just an update on the CA mass shooting. The LA Times is saying the shooter was sending out an Instagram where he mocks " thoughts and prayers". His social media accounts were taken down this morning.
 
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