Pax Punched Driver For Not Answering Her Call

CJfrom619

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Well, the pax had one valid point, if the driver's not going to answer the phone then their rating should suffer. I've actually been in a similar situation with an actual business. I called my local pizza place in an attempt to place an order, could not get them to answer the phone. They didn't get my business. Not sure why it is any different for rideshare, other than the fact that some ants feel entitled and anti-social, which seems silly considering what is involved with rideshare.

If that ant was so concerned with his rating, then he should've bent over backwards for his pax, which guess what, that means answering your phone when they call. These dopey ants that try to terminate a ride if they think they're going to get dinged, they don't deserve a good rating to begin with.
There should be no reason to call?? A pickup location is set and you can see the drivers location. If you set a bad pickup spot then thats on you not the driver. A rider only calls to tell you that there somewhere else??? They set the location not us but you want us to answer the phone to accommodate their problems??
 

L DaVinci

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Pax was upset that the Lyft driver didn’t answer her call before he picked her up. After he picked her up, she was telling him it’s not good for his rating. Within a block of the ride, he decides to end the ride because he feels the situation is escalating. She punches him, as she gets out.

Lyft issues a statement, blah, blah, blah. And they ban the rider for life (until she creates another account).

Next article, peteyvavs shoots pax for being an @@@@@@@.
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Yes you do, porn hub 😝
 

TXUbering

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There should be no reason to call?? A pickup location is set and you can see the drivers location. If you set a bad pickup spot then thats on you not the driver. A rider only calls to tell you that there somewhere else??? They set the location not us but you want us to answer the phone to accommodate their problems??
There SHOULD be no reason to call, but then there should be no reason that functioning adults can't discern the difference between "there" and "they're", and yet here we are. No one's forcing anyone to answer a call, but it's completely the rider's call on whether or not that warrants a rating drop. The ant ending the ride because he wants to artificially keep his rating high is also a lot of crap, yet you don't see any other ants on here speaking to that bit of bs.....
 
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itsablackmarket

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She was upset about something that Lyft was responsible for causing. Lyft is chaotic. She probably had a lot of trouble getting a driver but due to the lack of education about the chaotic nature of lawless Lyft, these frustrations end up being taken out on the drivers and passengers who are unaware that Lyft is the real problem in the equation. That's why being smart is very important, and if you're smart you will quit driving or using Uber or Lyft because the only thing being shared is misery due to the clowns who started this junk and likewise the clowns in the government who have allowed them to exist.
 

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there should be no reason that functioning adults can't discern the difference between "there" and "they're", and yet here we are. No one's forcing anyone to answer a call, but it's completely the rider's call on whether or not that warrants a rating drop. The ant ending the ride because he wants to artificially keep his rating high is also a lot of crap,
There’s no need to point out grammatical errors. The article never stated he ended the ride because of his ratings. He felt the situation was escalating.

We all have different styles. Why are you not focusing on how the pax sucker punched the driver? She couldn’t control her emotions, and deserves to be arrested for assault.
 
A couple of things from the video, one (and not to excuse this pax's behavior in the least) why do some of us feel that answering a call or a text is beyond the realm of courtesy to our pax? I hear people proudly exclaim "I don't answer my pax's texts or phone calls!", which I've always found a bit moronic. If the pax wants to share information on the pickup, why would you NOT answer those messages? I think some ants think they're being subservient to the pax, and they really need to get over it, or find some other line of work. I often hear "entitled" used to describe our pax, but have to admit, this sounds like "entitled" behavior on our part.

Second, why does the media blur out the faces of these people that are caught on video doing these types of things? When people do stupid stuff and are caught on camera, their face needs to be blasted out all over the airways so that EVERYONE that knows them can see what kind of person they're dealing with. Then again, we live in an age where no one feels that people need to be held accountable for their actions, which only reinforces the bad behavior. If you don't want your bad behavior aired in public, DON'T BEHAVE BADLY IN PUBLIC!

Final observation, did this ant really end the ride because the pax started talking about poor rating for not answering the phone? I'd have no sympathy for this ant being kicked off of Lyft for this. If you don't want to do Rideshare, then please go apply for a job elsewhere, maybe Uber eats where social interaction is kept at a minimum. Although, on second thought, please go ahead and stay on the platform, because it makes it so much easier for ants like me to look good by comparison.
call is distracting & i dont answer important details can be sent by text 99.9% of my 5000 rides get a pre text

they know im driving theyre most likely not, i can check a text at a stop light see gate code, business name, color hat youre wearing in a quick glance without having to turn down the gangsta rap or funk to hear whatever bs youre about to spew oblivious to the fact im driving a car

if it takes a phone call to explain it instead of text its a good indicator im going to cancel though so appreciate the screening help

calling is rude always has been unless the call was planned and or expected

plus i have an uber lyft only phone $30 with only 100 minutes thats 1 call to "support" with waiting on hold for a "supervisor" since i dont speak tag a log im not reimbursed for my minutes so no phone calls for you

anyone mentions rating bad trip ends right there, i already got the 1 star you wont extort me get another ride boohoo prob 5-10 extra minutes & a few hours to get your refund & a ride credit

96% will fail by design anyway "look good" all you want uber lyft sees you as a peon as do most x, pool tier riders

btw i dont "share" anything using the term is fraud in itself they are paying me for a ride in my property which the law & whatever creator you may or may not believe says i have dominion over

try to extort me over a star lol gtfo
 

TXUbering

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There’s no need to point out grammatical errors. The article never stated he ended the ride because of his ratings. He felt the situation was escalating.

We all have different styles. Why are you not focusing on how the pax sucker punched the driver? She couldn’t control her emotions, and deserves to be arrested for assault.
If you watch the video, he ended the ride shortly after she started talking about down rating him. I pointed out the grammatical error because the poster stated that there should be "no reason" to call/answer. If we lived in a perfect world that's fine, but we don't. Like I previously stated, if you don't want to answer your phone when your CUSTOMER calls, that's entirely on you. I start to see why my pax are impressed with me, despite the fact that I don't do anything special.

I actually got a visual that backs it up. I went to the airport to drop someone off. I see an ant pulled into the airport departures get out in sweat pants. If that's the image he wants to give out, that's entirely on him. The sad part is the only time he looked like he sweats is when he's trying to get in and out of his car. If you don't want to put any effort into it, please don't whine when your pax rate you appropriately, that's all I'm saying.
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call is distracting & i dont answer important details can be sent by text 99.9% of my 5000 rides get a pre text

they know im driving theyre most likely not, i can check a text at a stop light see gate code, business name, color hat youre wearing in a quick glance without having to turn down the gangsta rap or funk to hear whatever bs youre about to spew oblivious to the fact im driving a car

if it takes a phone call to explain it instead of text its a good indicator im going to cancel though so appreciate the screening help

calling is rude always has been unless the call was planned and or expected

plus i have an uber lyft only phone $30 with only 100 minutes thats 1 call to "support" with waiting on hold for a "supervisor" since i dont speak tag a log im not reimbursed for my minutes so no phone calls for you

anyone mentions rating bad trip ends right there, i already got the 1 star you wont extort me get another ride boohoo prob 5-10 extra minutes & a few hours to get your refund & a ride credit

96% will fail by design anyway "look good" all you want uber lyft sees you as a peon as do most x, pool tier riders

btw i dont "share" anything using the term is fraud in itself they are paying me for a ride in my property which the law & whatever creator you may or may not believe says i have dominion over

try to extort me over a star lol gtfo

Ummm, you know how many businesses would fail if that was their attitude? Like I said, there are a lot of entitled ants out here.......
 

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If you watch the video, he ended the ride shortly after she started talking about down rating him. I pointed out the grammatical error because the poster stated that there should be "no reason" to call/answer. If we lived in a perfect world that's fine, but we don't. Like I previously stated, if you don't want to answer your phone when your CUSTOMER calls, that's entirely on you. I start to see why my pax are impressed with me, despite the fact that I don't do anything special.

I actually got a visual that backs it up. I went to the airport to drop someone off. I see an ant pulled into the airport departures get out in sweat pants. If that's the image he wants to give out, that's entirely on him. The sad part is the only time he looked like he sweats is when he's trying to get in and out of his car. If you don't want to put any effort into it, please don't whine when your pax rate you appropriately, that's all I'm saying.
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Ummm, you know how many businesses would fail if that was their attitude? Like I said, there are a lot of entitled ants out here.......
Okay. We have different viewpoints on this particular scenario, so I’ll leave it as agree to disagree. For the record, I answer the phone when possible, but not if it’s unsafe or in construction.

Here it’s illegal to be on your phone in a construction zone. We have construction all the time, except maybe a month or do in winter.
 

TXUbering

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Okay. We have different viewpoints on this particular scenario, so I’ll leave it as agree to disagree. For the record, I answer the phone when possible, but not if it’s unsafe or in construction.

Here it’s illegal to be on your phone in a construction zone. We have construction all the time, except maybe a month or do in winter.
Here's an article of where this attitude may ultimately hurt us. The author misses on a few points, like not factoring fuel costs with his rental, but there are other valid points, especially the one where he says it's always a few bad experiences that ruined it for him.

 

LyftUberFuwabolewa

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I wonder how that driver got away with posting the video publicly and not getting deactivated.

I recently was assaulted and posted the video to YouTube unpublished and sent the link to Lyft. The rep I spoke with complimented me on uploading the video so it wasn't public and I forget the wording but I got the feeling that publishing the video publicly would be grounds for deactivation.
 

Jenga

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And the war between drivers and pax continues unabated. Pax need to understand that the driver is the captain of the vehicle and the pax is merely onboard at the pleasure of the captain.
Yesterday, I ordered a pax out of my vehicle for being passive aggressive and arrogant. I had texted him as to where he was going. He responded with the pickup location. Knowing he was trying to play me, I asked a 2nd time via text, knowing there would be a confrontation at pickup if he didn't reply. He didn't, so I locked the doors and rolled the front window down at arrival: "Where are you going please?" Again, no response. He tries to open the back seat door. Too bad, locked. "Where are you going?" I asked again in a more demanding voice. Knowing he can't proceed until he discloses, he then reveals his destination. Doors unlock and he gets in. Ready to drive, despite his cocky behavior, I ask: "Why did I have to ask you 4 times before you would tell me where you are going? Don't you think I have a right to know where I'm going as a driver?" Unbelievably, he replies: "Actually, you don't." I insisted: "Ok, let's test that theory. Get out of my car!" Shocked, he becomes 2 notches less cocky, and starts trying to backtrack. I wasn't buying the BS: "Nope, you have been passive aggressive from the moment I contacted you. And I don't want you in my car, so GET OUT!" Suddenly, it's dawned on him who is really in charge. He says: "But you work for Uber and they say I don't have to tell you." For the last time, I demand "GET OUT OF MY CAR!" As he finally obeys, I get one last one in: "I don't work for Uber. THEY work for ME! You need to learn that!!!" And off I drove without the arrogant pax. It felt good to take a stand for all of us!
 

CJfrom619

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There SHOULD be no reason to call, but then there should be no reason that functioning adults can't discern the difference between "there" and "they're", and yet here we are. No one's forcing anyone to answer a call, but it's completely the rider's call on whether or not that warrants a rating drop. The ant ending the ride because he wants to artificially keep his rating high is also a lot of crap, yet you don't see any other ants on here speaking to that bit of bs.....
Correcting grammar on a forum!? Lol nerd alert!
 

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Here's an article of where this attitude may ultimately hurt us. The author misses on a few points, like not factoring fuel costs with his rental, but there are other valid points, especially the one where he says it's always a few bad experiences that ruined it for him.

I agree with how shuffling isn’t helping our image, nor are the rapey drivers. Look at the other thread about the Lyft driver attempting to kidnap s woman.

But this thread is about how a spoiled woman was mad for someone not answering her call. She had no right to punch the guy. And she clearly has anger issues. I’m leaving it at that.
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Yesterday, I ordered a pax out of my vehicle for being passive aggressive and arrogant. I had texted him as to where he was going. He responded with the pickup location. Knowing he was trying to play me, I asked a 2nd time via text, knowing there would be a confrontation at pickup if he didn't reply. He didn't, so I locked the doors and rolled the front window down at arrival: "Where are you going please?" Again, no response. He tries to open the back seat door. Too bad, locked. "Where are you going?" I asked again in a more demanding voice. Knowing he can't proceed until he discloses, he then reveals his destination. Doors unlock and he gets in. Ready to drive, despite his cocky behavior, I ask: "Why did I have to ask you 4 times before you would tell me where you are going? Don't you think I have a right to know where I'm going as a driver?" Unbelievably, he replies: "Actually, you don't." I insisted: "Ok, let's test that theory. Get out of my car!" Shocked, he becomes 2 notches less cocky, and starts trying to backtrack. I wasn't buying the BS: "Nope, you have been passive aggressive from the moment I contacted you. And I don't want you in my car, so GET OUT!" Suddenly, it's dawned on him who is really in charge. He says: "But you work for Uber and they say I don't have to tell you." For the last time, I demand "GET OUT OF MY CAR!" As he finally obeys, I get one last one in: "I don't work for Uber. THEY work for ME! You need to learn that!!!" And off I drove without the arrogant pax. It felt good to take a stand for all of us!
Good for you! I’ve only booted a few who were extremely rude, like the woman cursing. These pax need to know respect goes both ways.
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I wonder how that driver got away with posting the video publicly and not getting deactivated.

I recently was assaulted and posted the video to YouTube unpublished and sent the link to Lyft. The rep I spoke with complimented me on uploading the video so it wasn't public and I forget the wording but I got the feeling that publishing the video publicly would be grounds for deactivation.
Did you report to the police?
 
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If you watch the video, he ended the ride shortly after she started talking about down rating him. I pointed out the grammatical error because the poster stated that there should be "no reason" to call/answer. If we lived in a perfect world that's fine, but we don't. Like I previously stated, if you don't want to answer your phone when your CUSTOMER calls, that's entirely on you. I start to see why my pax are impressed with me, despite the fact that I don't do anything special.

I actually got a visual that backs it up. I went to the airport to drop someone off. I see an ant pulled into the airport departures get out in sweat pants. If that's the image he wants to give out, that's entirely on him. The sad part is the only time he looked like he sweats is when he's trying to get in and out of his car. If you don't want to put any effort into it, please don't whine when your pax rate you appropriately, that's all I'm saying.
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Ummm, you know how many businesses would fail if that was their attitude? Like I said, there are a lot of entitled ants out here.......
my independent contractor business averages $50 per trip after 5000 rides and after 5 years i succeed as a 1%er while 99% have failed since then

im doing something right
$2-8 rides get $2-8 of service/attitude all 1 starred and request to unmatch with no cash tip

i dont want to share oxygen with that type of human

"businesses" have business hours with phone numbers to call, if you call me while driving to you if its not airport its almost a guaraunteed cancel just cuz i can lol my job is to take legal profitable riders to the airport & make everyone else hate the service period

thats what happens when you spend all day trying to trick me into providing free labor

$65+ xl only rides 40 miles with $10 toll get 5 star service

call it entitled i call it work & i dont do it free, nothing good comes from a pax calling any driver whose driven longer than a week knows this, its nothing but a distraction that endangers my life, risks a ticket... & thats a simple fact, they text me they have $1 a min to answer i will until then theyre only paying for a ride to point b from a at illegal predatory rates not my cell phone minutes that im not reimbursed for using

i made more profit on 1 ride today than uber lyft has made in a decade sans the money laundering on million dollar real estate of course
 
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TXUbering

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my independent contractor business averages $50 per trip after 5000 rides and after 5 years i succeed as a 1%er while 99% have failed since then

im doing something right
$2-8 rides get $2-8 of service/attitude all 1 starred and request to unmatch with no cash tip

i dont want to share oxygen with that type of human

"businesses" have business hours with phone numbers to call, if you call me while driving to you if its not airport its almost a guaraunteed cancel just cuz i can lol my job is to take legal profitable riders to the airport & make everyone else hate the service period

thats what happens when you spend all day trying to trick me into providing free labor

$65+ xl only rides 40 miles with $10 toll get 5 star service

call it entitled i call it work & i dont do it free, nothing good comes from a pax calling any driver whose driven longer than a week knows this, its nothing but a distraction that endangers my life, risks a ticket... & thats a simple fact, they text me they have $1 a min to answer i will until then theyre only paying for a ride to point b from a at illegal predatory rates not my cell phone minutes that im not reimbursed for using

i made more profit on 1 ride today than uber lyft has made in a decade sans the money laundering on million dollar real estate of course
Like I said....

An entitlement is the right to a particular privilege or benefit, granted by law or custom. You have a legal entitlement to speak to a lawyer if you're ever arrested and put in jail.

Your entitlement program at work might offer various benefits, or you might receive a medical entitlement once you reach a certain age. These are just basic things you get. More recently, entitlement has taken on a critical sense. If someone has a sense of entitlement, that means the person believes he deserves certain privileges — and he's arrogant about it. The term "culture of entitlement" suggests that many people now have highly unreasonable expectations about what they are entitled to.
 
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