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Fostel

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check this out!!

Hybrid & Electric Cars: Electromagnetic Radiation Risks

Hybrid and electric cars may be cancer-causing as they emit extremely low frequency (ELF) electromagnetic radiation (EMR) or magnetic fields. Recent studies of the levels of EMR emitted by these automobiles have claimed either that they pose a cancer risk for the vehicles' occupants or they are safe.

Unfortunately, the little research conducted on this issue has been industry-funded by companies with vested interests on one side of the issue or the other which makes it difficult to know which studies are trustworthy.

Meanwhile, numerous peer-reviewed laboratory studies conducted over several decades have found biologic effects from very limited exposures to ELF EMR. These studies suggest that the EMR guidelines established by the self-appointed, International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) are inadequate to protect our health. Thus, even if EMR measurements do not exceed the ICNIRP guidelines, occupants of hybrid and electric automobiles may be at increased risk for cancer and other health problems.

Given that magnetic fields have been considered "possibly carcinogenic" in humans by the International Agency for Research on Cancer of the World Health Organization since 2001, the precautionary principle dictates that we should design consumer products to minimize consumers’ exposure to ELF EMR. This especially applies to hybrid and electric automobiles as drivers and passengers spend considerable amounts of time in these vehicles and health risks increase with the duration of exposure.

In January, 2014, SINTEF, the largest independent research organization in Scandinavia, proposed manufacturing design guidelines that could reduce the magnetic fields in electric vehicles (see below). All automobile manufacturers should follow these guidelines to ensure their customers' safety.

The public should demand that governments adequately fund high-quality research on the health effects of electromagnetic radiation that is independent of industry to eliminate any potential conflicts of interest. In the U.S., a major national research and education initiative could be funded with as little as a 5 cents a month fee on mobile phone subscribers.

Following are summaries and links to several studies and news articles on this topic.

Note that many experts believe the ICNIRP guidelines for maximum general public exposure to electromagnetic fields do not adequately protect the public from health risks.
http://www.saferemr.com/2014/07/shouldnt-hybrid-and-electric-cars-be-re.html
 

Volkswaber

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They talk about pollution and blame motorists because is lucrative they can ripp off the citizens with higher insurance, road tax, Ulez, congestion, PCN, parkings, making roads smaller and difficult to circulate. They don't care if people die with cancer, it's not a joke the Gov don't care because is not lucrative. Is sad that they are ripping us while watching them, and don't forget that to scrap all batteries for those electric cars will be also an issue that will comes and we know that the batteries are not friendly.
 

Fostel

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They talk about pollution and blame motorists because is lucrative they can ripp off the citizens with higher insurance, road tax, Ulez, congestion, PCN, parkings, making roads smaller and difficult to circulate. They don't care if people die with cancer, it's not a joke the Gov don't care because is not lucrative. Is sad that they are ripping us while watching them, and don't forget that to scrap all batteries for those electric cars will be also an issue that will comes and we know that the batteries are not friendly.
Lot of research has been done about fuel cars. Years of studies yet, not much about technology that come overnight under 'green' cover and being forced through our throats.

Where is battery in Prius? Behind the back seat? What about Auris? Under the back passenger seats!?
INTERESTING!!
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Motors
  • Where possible, the motor should be installed farther away from the passenger seat area, and its rotation axis should not point to the seat region.
  • If weight permits, the motor housing should be made of steel, rather than aluminium, as the former has a much better shielding effect.
  • If the distance of the motor and passenger seat area is less than 500mm, some forms of shielding should be employed. For example, a steel plate could be placed between the motor and the passenger seat region
  • Motor housing should be electrically well connected to the vehicle metallic chassis to minimise any electrical potential.
  • Inverter and motor should be mounted as close as possible to each other to minimise the cable length between the two.
Batteries
  • Since batteries are distributed, the currents in the batteries and in the interconnectors may become a significant source for EMF emission, they should be place as far away as possible from the passenger seat areas. If the distance between the battery and passenger seat area is less than 200mm, steel shields should be used to separate the batteries and the seating area.
  • The cables connecting battery cells should not form a loop, and where possible, the interconnectors for the positive polarity should be as close as possible to those of the negative polarity.
http://bit.ly/1qw29Tb
Especially this bit:
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Batteries
  • Since batteries are distributed, the currents in the batteries and in the interconnectors may become a significant source for EMF emission, they should be place as far away as possible from the passenger seat areas. If the distance between the battery and passenger seat area is less than 200mm, steel shields should be used to separate the batteries and the seating area.
 
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real taxi bod

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They talk about pollution and blame motorists because is lucrative they can ripp off the citizens with higher insurance, road tax, Ulez, congestion, PCN, parkings, making roads smaller and difficult to circulate. They don't care if people die with cancer, it's not a joke the Gov don't care because is not lucrative. Is sad that they are ripping us while watching them, and don't forget that to scrap all batteries for those electric cars will be also an issue that will comes and we know that the batteries are not friendly.
Yep just like diesel was the answer 10-15 years,
Battery and hybrids are now, 25 -20 years down the line it’ll something else to replace the dangerous batteries, circle of life I’m afraid.
The one constant is it’s the working man that gets shafted longest and hardest!
 

D1991D

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Lot of research has been done about fuel cars. Years of studies yet, not much about technology that come overnight under 'green' cover and being forced through our throats.

Where is battery in Prius? Behind the back seat? What about Auris? Under the back passenger seats!?
INTERESTING!!


Especially this bit:
Yes but in auris hatchback old shape it’s in the boot it has spare wheel and the battery is in the back behind metal
 

Fostel

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Yes but in auris hatchback old shape it’s in the boot it has spare wheel and the battery is in the back behind metal
I know that Toyota kinda shielded the thing behind the steel but the main unaddressed issue is that limits of radiation are set to high. It's gonna affect biology even if 'device' levels of radiation are within the limits.
 

D1991D

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I know that Toyota kinda shielded the thing behind the steel but the main unaddressed issue is that limits of radiation are set to high. It's gonna affect biology even if 'device' levels of radiation are within the limits.
Maybe you should sue Toyota ? It might be worth it
 

Asificarewhatyoudontthink

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Morons that don't get that EMR is a range but Only Ionizing Radiation in that range can cause mutations in cells that cause cancer.

Now, be good little nutcases and look up, for yourselves, what is and is not ionizing...

Big hint, as drivers your greatest risk of cancer is your window side arm that is darker tan then the interior side arm...Because UV A and B are ionizing radiation From The Sun.
 

Skorpio

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Research.. who pay for this study?
If it was that bad, why they still making hybrid car?
 

Asificarewhatyoudontthink

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They said that mobile phones emit radiation too, but I haven't grown a second head yet or glow in the dark. Lots of kerfuffle about nowt IMO.
Less radiation than all the broadcast TV/RADIO.
Oh, and don't forget all the police and private radios from CBs to Ham.


But, and this is the fun one, these same nut jobs that forget EMR includes the interference old motors (vacuums/refrigerators/fans) kick out that cause the static interference on old TVs and radios.
 

Sowf off da river

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Morons that don't get that EMR is a range but Only Ionizing Radiation in that range can cause mutations in cells that cause cancer.

Now, be good little nutcases and look up, for yourselves, what is and is not ionizing...

Big hint, as drivers your greatest risk of cancer is your window side arm that is darker tan then the interior side arm...Because UV A and B are ionizing radiation From The Sun.
Let me guess you work for Tesla
 

fishagainmother?

Active Member
Yep just like diesel was the answer 10-15 years,
Battery and hybrids are now, 25 -20 years down the line it’ll something else to replace the dangerous batteries, circle of life I’m afraid.
The one constant is it’s the working man that gets shafted longest and hardest!

This is biggestt true you ever hear I promise
 

Asificarewhatyoudontthink

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Let me guess you work for Tesla
Right, that's why I drive for Uber.
Because of all that Tesla money I am taking in.

What is wrong with your brain that being told to "don't trust me go look at the factual verifiable science and read it for yourself " do mentally deficient people do the "snort, haha, right you must work for xyz whom we (the conspiracy nutters) think are part of some super cabal capable of keeping this huge secret...but totally incompetent enough that we (yup those same conspiracy nutters) could figure it out".

The electromagnetic spectrum is pretty well known.
Check out the reproducible, even by the likes of you, physics facts (not to be confused with 'alternative facts' also known as lies) that will prove that not all EMR is harmfull

People like you don't even understand the warmth you feel when you sit beside a fireplace is "gasp, the horror" radiation.
 

soTuga

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Right, that's why I drive for Uber.
Because of all that Tesla money I am taking in.

What is wrong with your brain that being told to "don't trust me go look at the factual verifiable science and read it for yourself " do mentally deficient people do the "snort, haha, right you must work for xyz whom we (the conspiracy nutters) think are part of some super cabal capable of keeping this huge secret...but totally incompetent enough that we (yup those same conspiracy nutters) could figure it out".

The electromagnetic spectrum is pretty well known.
Check out the reproducible, even by the likes of you, physics facts (not to be confused with 'alternative facts' also known as lies) that will prove that not all EMR is harmfull

People like you don't even understand the warmth you feel when you sit beside a fireplace is "gasp, the horror" radiation.
Mate take a nice warm cup of tea and a biscuit, we all die eventually.
 
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