I am not sure that Uber & Lyft can afford to pull out of the NY market. Uber is loosing ground all over the world and now the US is the largest market.Good luck -- and be sure to have a backup plan, because if you win you are out of a job.
Still cheaper than a cab.I paid 20$ for 3 mile ride in Brooklyn. Gtfo here
There have been state level judges that have found drivers to be employees. However, uber quickly settled and no further action was taken on the matter.Drivers are still independent contractors and minimum wage laws do not apply.
That's because most people don't know how to really calculate their income.I am a bit confused when it comes to the claim that drivers are making less than min wage. I use proper expensing and average a true net of $21.15 per hour. Down from $29.89 a year ago.
Min wage isn't $7.25-$11.00 per hour depending on the state,Idiots.
Minimum wage isn't just a floor on your earnings; it's also the ceiling.
Careful what you wish for.
location location location if you live or moved to a great location where you can get pings from your house & its trivial to screen now you can make money the other 96% not so much, I lesiurely watch the roaches circle & park round me accepting the scraps thats more idling & risk meaning less profit for them, they don't last long lol...That's because most people don't know how to really calculate their income.
There is no way to determine how much someone makes per hour, when true expenses are factored in, because no one can determine what their true expenses will be.
We can ascertain prior expenses, but not future. For example, if you are involved in an at-fault accident on Lyft, your expenses just went up $2,500. If you are not, then the expenses did not jump.
Does anyone know what their future expenses are going to be? We can make educated guesses, but nothing is for certain. For example, I paid for an oil change yesterday. I knew that was coming, and accounted for it. During the oil change, they informed me that a brake light was out. There's another $10 to replace it. Not a big deal, but that affects my net income figures. If I drove 5 hours, now the income has been reduced by $2/hour. Or perhaps I calculate on a weekly basis. Or monthly. By changing the way I account for things, it changes "how much I make" per hour. I spent $600 on tires a month ago, so is my hourly now lower, or do I just chalk it up to cost of doing business? (I know the answer, no need to reply).
The point being, most people have no idea what the "true" costs are. And even when they are explained to them, perhaps by an accountant or a very experienced businessperson, they STILL decide to calculate things "their way".
tickets are easy to avoid. I have gotten 1 ticket since getting my license, and I fought it and won, it was a mis-calibrated red light camera.location location location if you live or moved to a great location where you can get pings from your house & its trivial to screen now you can make money the other 96% not so much
1 ticket basically worked a week or month for free & extra $20+ a month on insurance
1 accident major repair worked a month or all year free
none of thats anecdotal
the world literally needs MIT to figure out 1971 minimum fares in 2018 are less than minimum wage and no one cared should be the main concern
every ride i take its $8 round trip tax round up $2 for others thats $10 a trip on a $50-$75 pay out for an hour and ten minutes
every other ride is $4 an hour no thanks i have no idea why these people get picked up or use newer cars but oh well a fool & their money
Exactly, unlike in most of the US, rideshare companies and their drivers in NYC are required to conform to the local taxi laws. This means that they have extra licensing and commercial insurance costs. This makes it a completely different ball game to the one most of US drivers are involved in.Uber drivers in NYC are required to carry commercial insurance, the $500+ a month variety.
Most uber drivers in NYC rent cars from a shop with insurance and everything packaged together, Just like the taxis are.
There's also a tax/fee tacked on every ride.
NYC rates are the highest in the country but because of Various factors i won't even use NYC in price/pay comparisons with other parts of the country.
NYC is a special case that i don't 100% understand but there are reasons for much higher rates beyond driver pay.
If you find yourself in the position of ”fighting for" minimum wage, or 15 bux per hour for that matter, things have gone terribly wrong. I feel for you and wish things could be different but they just can't be.Drivers are still independent contractors and minimum wage laws do not apply.