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New York did it — Chicago is up next

Discussion in 'News' started by Trump Economics, Aug 11, 2018 at 3:21 AM.

  1. Trump Economics

    Trump Economics Well-Known Member

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    EXCLUSIVE: Aldermen push for ride-share drivers to get pay raise

    Vrooom doom?

    Are Chicago’s ride-share drivers being taken for a ride?

    Two top Chicago aldermen think so when it comes to the wages of ride-share drivers minus job-incurred expenses — which puts them below Chicago’s minimum wage.

    Sneed has learned Aldermen Anthony Beale (9th) and Edward Burke (14th) plan to propose a little protection: a minimum pay rate for ride-share drivers that will match or exceed the Chicago minimum wage — after accounting for costs like insurance and gas expenses incurred by their job.

    “These people work on short-term contracts often for modest pay minus benefits,” said Burke.

    According to a Sun-Times editorial Friday, the typical Chicago Uber driver’s take-home pay is roughly $11.53 an hour — subtracting expenses from earnings.

    The minimum wage in Chicago is $12.

    Beale tells Sneed they will also review capping the number of ride-share drivers to address traffic congestion in the city in light of word Wednesday New York became the first major American city to halt new vehicle licenses for ride-hail services.

    The move by New York was considered a significant setback to Uber in its largest U.S. market.

    The New York City Council legislation passed overwhelmingly and caps the number of for-hire vehicles for a year while the city studies the booming industry.

    The bills also allow New York to set a minimum pay rate for drivers.

    “This whole ride-share industry has been a debacle from the very beginning,” said Beale.

    “The fact they’ve been able to basically dominate the [cab] industry with their own rules and regulations initially was a nightmare. So many drivers are working below minimum wage.

    “I’m glad we are finally getting some real reform on the ride-share industry; the traffic problems we have now are ridiculous,” he said.

    “Traffic to O’Hare is ridiculous. Every other car to O’Hare has a share ride sticker in their windows. They are rearing up the city’s streets. It’s getting out of control.”

    The aldermen also plan to conduct a series of hearings before the City Council to solicit the view of ride-share drivers on how to reform the industry.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/aldemen-ride-share-drivers-pay-raise/
     
  2. uberdriverfornow

    uberdriverfornow Well-Known Member

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    All they need to do is put a maximum percentage of the fare paid by the rider that Uber and Lyft can take and that's all drivers need.
     
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  3. mrpjfresh

    mrpjfresh Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Beale talking like a well-known member here on UP.net. Good luck to you Aldermen Beale and Burke. We all know the bribes, threats, cajoling and crying are incoming in swift order and in force!
     
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  4. tcaud

    tcaud Active Member

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    Cincinnati
    This really sucks. Now it's clear all the cities are going this rideshare capping deal. The taxi companies and unions win... charismatic union insiders get to keep their jobs and the rest of us are screwed.

    Not hardly. Hate to say it, but it'll look good for GOP in the cities in 2020.
     
  5. Demon

    Demon Well-Known Member

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    Orlando
    Actually the citizens of the city win.
     
  6. Brooklyn

    Brooklyn Well-Known Member

    Lol do people really believe in these “companies” and “unions”?

    Like do you REALLY think this exists?
     
  7. UberBastid

    UberBastid Well-Known Member

    Location:
    N.Cali
    Just curious: why do you "hate to say it"?
    What has our GOP president done that is so bad?

    Is it:
    * bringing N. Korea under some control?
    * enacting policies that have the highest rate of brown people employment, EVER?
    * lowering taxes to middle class?
    * best Wall Street (pension) performance in 25 years?
    * taking a tough stance with Russia?
    * addressing our trade imbalance with China, Mexico, Canada, EU?
    * getting our NATO "allies" to pay their fair share?
    * appointing judges that will actually uphold the Constitution?
    * seeing to our border security?
    * freeing up our energy businesses so that we are no longer dependent upon middle east oil?
    OR, is the this one. This one pisses off American Communists the most:
    * he s actually doing what he SAID he would do. Just not used to a politician that does what he promises, are ya?
     
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  8. FormerTaxiDriver♧

    FormerTaxiDriver♧ Well-Known Member

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    Many drivers are registered voters!
     
  9. JimKE

    JimKE Well-Known Member

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    Miami
    If Chicago thinks this is an issue they should devote attention to, they may want to look around a bit.

    Last weekend, 74 people were shot in Chicago, 12 died including several children.

    I know Chicago is the home of "Pay to Play" but these politicians ought to think about more than lining their pockets with payoff money.

    But that probably really is too much to expect from Chicago -- which actually would be one of America's great cities if it weren't for the corruption and violence they love so much.
     
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  10. UberBeemer

    UberBeemer Moderator Moderator

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    Murders are a problem, but viewed statistically, Chicago is only a little higher than Miami based on murders per 100k people.

    Not that this has any bearing on rideshare. The proposal of a cap on drivers is a good thing, but what I am concerned with is that many "Chicago drivers" dont live very close to the city. So their fate lies with alderman we didn't elect, and dont represent us.

    Another concern I have is, the number of cars at the airport is directly proportionate to the number of parties of people needing rides to or from. If you snapped your fingers and made cabs, TNPs, and limos disappear, you would have just as many people needing rides that aren't served by, or unwilling to take public transportation. At ORD, the worst congestion lies at the TNP pickup areas, which should never have been up on the departure level.

    In the city itself, there has been too many cars for decades.

    You can't cultivate one of the 3 largest convention destinations without creating enormous demand for transportation. The city shouldn't blame rideshare companies for the crowds. But they need to find a balanced way to regulate the drivers.
     
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  11. UberBastid

    UberBastid Well-Known Member

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    N.Cali
    Why?
    Why does the government need to 'regulate drivers'?
    Whats wrong with capitalism?
    What is so wrong with freedom?

    One of the biggest reasons Chicago is in the financial toilet that it's in is because of regulation, licensing, regulation, limits, subsidies, guarantees and ... free stuff.

    Maybe Chicago should consider something really revolutionary.
    Freedom.
     
  12. UberBeemer

    UberBeemer Moderator Moderator

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    The idea that business is better without regulatory constraints allows companies to make a mess of things in pursuit of profit because there is no check on their greed.

    Uber and Lyft, and the like, would hire any idiot or criminal otherwise. There would be no reason to keep rates from dropping g as long as they could enlist unlimited numbers of drivers with promises of easy money.
     
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  13. tcaud

    tcaud Active Member

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    Cincinnati
    I was mad but then I realized, I got nothing to worry about. You can't put a cap on licenses offered. Experts in a field can be selective in their training choices, but this is an implicit cap made by free will (and even it can conceivably be challenged). This cap is unconstitutional.

    If you're gonna opine on this stuff then you should step down as mod.

    Your argument is bull**** because insurance and lawyers.
     
  14. UberBastid

    UberBastid Well-Known Member

    Location:
    N.Cali
    Many professions put "caps" on admission.
    Lawyers put caps on based on how difficult the bar test is.
    CPA's do that same thing.
    So do Realtors.

    They can adjust the participation by adjusting the difficulty of the license test, or educational requirements, or cost of licensure and admission to associations that the licensee must join. For example: it is very expensive to be a real estate agent in California. Not only license cost, but the cost of joining all the associations such as MLS, local boards, CAR and NAR.
     
  15. UberBeemer

    UberBeemer Moderator Moderator

    Location:
    NW Chicago Suburbs
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    Funny, the Moderator Manual clearly states that I am entitled to Express opinions even though you disagree with them.

    Also, which clause or amendment in the constitution talks about business licenses? I think you are mistaken. Cities have limits on taxi medallions. That's partly why they used to be so expensive. They can easily do the same with TNP if the choose.
     
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  16. Bob Driver

    Bob Driver Active Member

    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    if anyone is interested I have my Uber account for sale, let's say starting the bid at 25k :)
     
  17. tcaud

    tcaud Active Member

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    Cincinnati
    And you actually believe people would pay that don't you?
     
  18. UberBeemer

    UberBeemer Moderator Moderator

    Location:
    NW Chicago Suburbs
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
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  19. Bob Driver

    Bob Driver Active Member

    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Ya never know whoever thought that they would pay millions for medallions at one time lol
     
  20. Wombat7

    Wombat7 Well-Known Member

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    SAN Diego
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    UberX
    That's pure BS.
     

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