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Never getting sticky surge

UbaBrah

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I keep picking up a supposed sticky surge but I can't get another ping while it's active to save my life.

I've tested this several times; the only time I'll get a new ride is if I go offline and basically forfeit the surge. What a bunch of bullshit.

Anyone else having this problem?

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TemptingFate

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If you get the sticky surge, you're going to the end of the line for pings. The algorithm will ensure that all drivers have the same hourly average. So if you have a $10 sticky surge, you might wait 20-30 minutes for a ping to ensure that your hourly income doesn't exceed $18, $20, $22 or whatever the prevailing average rate may be.
 

TPAMB

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We’ve all gone home some nights with nice surges stuck on our phones. It kills me to go offline for the 6 hour mandatory with money still in the kitty.
 

nouberipo

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I keep picking up a supposed sticky surge but I can't get another ping while it's active to save my life.

I've tested this several times; the only time I'll get a new ride is if I go offline and basically forfeit the surge. What a bunch of bullshit.

Anyone else having this problem?

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Thats the way it is designed.....get you to drive to a spot so you can get the sticky surge and then, once you have the amount, you are likely to not accept a Lyft ride AND if you chased the surge you are likely not at home but driving around somewhere so they are hoping you will just wait. This way they have you set in a place in case a ride request comes in. This way they can spread drivers all around the city and then not give you a ride until it is convenient for them. This may mean you have to wait an hour or two and then if there are none in the area they will throw you a request 30 minutes away from the busy area you are in knowing you won't accept it which means you then lose the sticky surge. You have to think of their actions in terms of the most unethical, immoral, and lawless behaviors you can imagine....that is the culture of Uber and its partner Lyft.
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If you get the sticky surge, you're going to the end of the line for pings. The algorithm will ensure that all drivers have the same hourly average. So if you have a $10 sticky surge, you might wait 20-30 minutes for a ping to ensure that your hourly income doesn't exceed $18, $20, $22 or whatever the prevailing average rate may be.
THis is why it is smart to just keep the app on all day and rack up the hours while declining the requests you may get every hour or so. Then the algorithm will see you have been online for 40 hours and only made 100 dollars over 30 trips so they will throw you some extra trips. Never look desperate to the algorithm because it will program your requests with that in mind. AI is scary and Uber/Lyft are really getting good at it so know that every action you take with the app is recorded and used for future requests.
 

UbaBrah

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Thanks for the replies. This pretty much confirms it's hurting my chances of keeping busy. I did a quick off/online and was back in business within a few minutes. No big deal as the typical $4-6 surges kicked in around 9pm as usual.
 

mrpjfresh

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The algorithm will de-prioritize you and you'll likely have to lose that surge unless it is busy. I mean it makes perfect sense. Why pay out a surge needlessly when there are many other available ants with no surge and it's slow? Uber needs all the money it can get these days!

The other week I waited for almost 40 minutes well past 3am to cash in a $13 surge. I even went to the popular after party Waffle House so you know I was desperate. I ultimately had to just say screw it and go home to bed. Played the game and went bust.
 

SurgeMasterMN

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I only hold onto sticky surge if I know I m heading home and will keep the app open with a destination filter to the airport. Sometimes it can take hours to trigger but it will once all drivers have vanished around you. I had a $12.00 sticky surge and it took close to 4 hours to get the ping but it ended up being a nice run. Close to $75.00 with tip included.

Other times if you are driving around with sticky surge attached and surge has disappeared from the map then you might be waiting a while. In this scenario I have logged off in hopes of leap frogging a driver that has a sticky surge. Does this do any good? I don't know.... But one thing is for certain is Sticky Surge is sometimes the Kiss of Death to a Driver.
 

nouberipo

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I keep picking up a supposed sticky surge but I can't get another ping while it's active to save my life.

I've tested this several times; the only time I'll get a new ride is if I go offline and basically forfeit the surge. What a bunch of bullshit.

Anyone else having this problem?

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Its actually not a problem but rather programmed that way. It does several things. First, it creates in the drivers mind the idea that they need to keep the sticky surge so they better not take a ride from the competitor. The second is that it allows them to "set up" drivers like on a chess board in case there are rides needed. The sticky surges are individualized to each driver.....the map you see and the sticky surges you see are not necessarily the same as any other drivers in your area. Larger the sticky surge the longer you will wait as they will be looking for an unprofitable ride for the driver so they can make money. Many times they will send me a request 30 minutes away knowing I won't take it and losing the surge in the process. Or they will try and send me into the ghetto which the algorithm knows I won't take. Or they will send a request for a rider who has below a 4.9 rating knowing I won't accept it thus losing the sticky surge. IN the end, the surge is meant to get people out on the roads and just sit around until Uber/Lyft see a profitable means to use you. Manipulation and exploitation at its finest and there is nothing, nothing you can do but call Uber Manila Call Center which only makes it worse in terms of stress.
 

waldowainthrop

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It happened to me once. It is an oversupply problem – despite the “demand” that caused the surge earlier, there aren’t enough people asking for rides near you so you and a couple of other drivers (maybe with a surge guarantee, maybe not) aren’t getting whatever few rides are available. It’s not like a passenger is nearby getting the message “no cars available”. People are getting rides, just not you and probably a couple of other drivers.
 
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