More regulations tighten the noose on Uber

onTheMove21

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Uber threatens to leave Quebec in protest at new rules for drivers
  • Uber complains that 35-hour training requirement for drivers is unfair
  • Montreal mayor dismisses threat: ‘If they threaten to leave, I don’t care’

Uber says it will stop operating in the Canadian province of Quebec if authorities push forward with plans to demand additional training of its drivers.

Last week, the Quebec government announced legislation that would require Uber drivers to undergo 35 hours of mandatory training – an amount in line with taxi drivers in the province – rather than the 20 hours currently demanded of them.

The legislation, which would also force Uber drivers to have a criminal background check carried out by police rather than private security companies and have their cars inspected every 12 months, is expected to be tabled next week.

Jean-Nicolas Guillemette, the general manager of Uber Quebec, said the company worried that the training requirements could deter drivers from signing up.

Unless the province scrapped the proposed legislation, he said the service would stop operating in Quebec as of 14 October. “We’re not here to negotiate in public – we don’t think that’s the right approach,” he said. “The goal here is for us to sit down with the government and find ways that you can continue to operate. But what we know for sure is that if they impose 35 hours of training on us, we’ll need to leave.”

Uber’s threat to leave the province was met with derision by some. “I don’t care,” Denis Coderre, the mayor of Montreal, told BNN news channel. “Frankly we need to have some regulation, and if they threaten to leave I don’t care.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/26/uber-threatens-leave-quebec-drivers
 

onTheMove21

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I've seen cowboy attitude among too many rideshare drivers. We should have similar mandatory training for rideshare drivers in Vic for safety of everyone.
 

ubermercury

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Too many cowboy attitude among rideshare drivers. We should have similar mandatory training for rideshare drivers in Vic for safety of everyone.

The training should be the same for all drivers, not just so-called rideshare.
35 hours seems excessive.
What applies to taxi drivers atm.?
 

onTheMove21

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Agree. Should be everyone carrying out taxi and rideshare services. It seems currently only drivers of wheelchair accessible taxis are required to complete a training.
 

Jack Malarkey

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Training of 35 hours does seem grosssly excessive. If any formal training is needed, a couple of hours online should suffice.
 

weekendnightdriver

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The most surprising part of this news article is that 'Uber is already providing 20 hour training to drivers in Quebec.' But they think it is absurd to increase the training hours from 20 to 35 (current taxi driver requirement).

I am really wondering what they are teaching in 20 hours at the moment and what are they going to teach in 35 hours. Quebec is simply WOW.

But when I googled it, the training time seems to be 110 hours in Quebec to be a taxi driver.
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Source: https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/documents/publications/drive-taxi.pdf

Quebec WOW. Canada WOW.
 

ubermercury

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The most surprising part of this news article is that 'Uber is already providing 20 hour training to drivers in Quebec.' But they think it is absurd to increase the training hours from 20 to 35 (current taxi driver requirement).

I am really wondering what they are teaching in 20 hours at the moment and what are they going to teach in 35 hours. Quebec is simply WOW.

But when I googled it, the training time seems to be 110 hours in Quebec to be a taxi driver.
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Source: https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/documents/publications/drive-taxi.pdf

Quebec WOW. Canada WOW.

The fact that they use the term Toponymy (the study of place names) says it all. Rhymes with bankers.

Edit: surely these requirements pre date GPS?
 

UberAustraliaFTW

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Canada is easy place driving. Uber should be made in charge.
As driver, we not making lots of money. Maybe this is unfair as driver should no pay tax or abn taxes, or traiing
 

χ²(1)

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The training should be the same for all drivers, not just so-called rideshare.
35 hours seems excessive.
What applies to taxi drivers atm.?
There was a knowledge test for taxi drivers a few years ago:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-...n-taxi-drivers-pass-new-accreditation/6005104

The knowledge test has now been removed. It wasn't removed because of the high failure rate. It was removed for equity to bring taxis inline with Uber requirements (i.e. no test).

The training material can still be obtained from the archived version of the TSC's website:

http://web.archive.org/web/20160730...rs/taxi-drivers/driver-accreditation-training
 

ubermercury

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There was a knowledge test for taxi drivers a few years ago:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-...n-taxi-drivers-pass-new-accreditation/6005104

The knowledge test has now been removed. It wasn't removed because of the high failure rate. It was removed for equity to bring taxis inline with Uber requirements (i.e. no test).

The training material can still be obtained from the archived version of the TSC's website:

http://web.archive.org/web/20160730...rs/taxi-drivers/driver-accreditation-training

I completed it in 2016 as part of my DA and it was removed by Dan The Man.
He was quoted as saying that it was a waste of time.
When I signed up Uber used to recommend that drivers get DA so in that sense they were getting Uber drivers to complete it.
 

Tom2828

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If taxi drivers couldn't even pass a simple knowledge test why makes you think they will pass any further training.
If they could pass the test they probably be able to find better job lol

If taxi drivers couldn't even pass a simple knowledge test why makes you think they will pass any further training.
If they could pass the test they probably be able to find better job lol
 

χ²(1)

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I completed it in 2016 as part of my DA and it was removed by Dan The Man.
He was quoted as saying that it was a waste of time.
I suspect it may also have something to do with the Alan Fels Taxi Industry inquiry, which was started by the previous Liberal government (the Labor government like to undo previous Liberal government initiatives, like the East-West link)
 
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