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Manila Uber Newbie Thread

sneakyserna

New Member
Hi,

I'm currently employed having a rank & file level of salary. I'm planning to buy a car and do UBER as partner/driver, and soon want to be a partner/operator. I'd be very happy and grateful to hear your advice and ideas.

Thanks! :smiles:

How did it go? any updates? Can it cover your amortization? Thanks
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
Hi Ryan,

would love to have a copy of this file. Looking forward to hear from you very soon. :smiles:

Thanks!
Here's my realistic computation after 1 month of operating UBer, P200 per hr is not a realistic income, tutubo ka lang pag 12 hrs full time bcoz of our traffic condition here in manila + gas consumption mo, sometimes break even ka pa kung sideline lang ang gagawin mo, den yung pagod mo pa sa trapik, need mo kumita ng min 1,300 for more than 12 trips which would take 12-15 hrs per day. Here's my sample computation total earnings 1,300 - 800(it depends sa fuel consumption), may net income ka na 500- 600. Again 12 hrs to ha or min 12 trips isipin m nlang ang stress na ibibigay sau. Kung may driver ka pwede kau mag hatian ng 60/40 sa driver.
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
Hi All,

This thread is very helpful. Thank you for all the inputs. I am also interested to be an Uber partner operator. I would just like to ask, to all those experienced and to all those who already did their feasibility studies, if i am buying a new car thru financing, is it worth it? can it last for 5 years? and will my income cover the amortization? also, what car can you recommend best? I am looking at the new toyota vios 1.3 E AT. Any other recommendations? THank you :smiles:
Here's my realistic computation after 1 month of operating UBer, P200 per hr is not a realistic income, tutubo ka lang pag 12 hrs full time bcoz of our traffic condition here in manila + gas consumption mo, sometimes break even ka pa kung sideline lang ang gagawin mo, den yung pagod mo pa sa trapik, need mo kumita ng min 1,300 for more than 12 trips which would take 12-15 hrs per day. Here's my sample computation total earnings 1,300 - 800(it depends sa fuel consumption), may net income ka na 500- 600. Again 12 hrs to ha or min 12 trips isipin m nlang ang stress na ibibigay sau. Kung may driver ka pwede kau mag hatian ng 60/40 sadriver ska yung km run almost 200km per day. Damn kawawa nman kotse ko mabilis sya malalaspag. T
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
Kung doon mo i asa yung monthly mo, mukang hindi sya realistic, ok lang kung pang subsidy lang sa monthly mo. But try to think the wear and tear of your car kung ipasok mo sya. See below my min computation after 1 month ko mag operate hyundai accent 1.4 petrol ang car ko. tutubo ka lang pag 12 hrs full time bcoz of our traffic condition here in manila + gas consumption mo(avg 7 km/ltr) sometimes break even ka pa kung sideline lang ang gagawin mo, den yung pagod mo pa sa trapik, need mo kumita ng min 1,300 for more than 12 trips which would take 12-15 hrs per day. Here's my sample computation total earnings 1,300 - 800(it depends sa fuel consumption), may net income ka na 500- 600. Again 12 hrs to ha or min 12 trips isipin m nlang ang stress na ibibigay sau. Kung may driver ka pwede kau mag hatian ng 60/40 sa driver
 

Mavz

New Member
Kung doon mo i asa yung monthly mo, mukang hindi sya realistic, ok lang kung pang subsidy lang sa monthly mo. But try to think the wear and tear of your car kung ipasok mo sya. See below my min computation after 1 month ko mag operate hyundai accent 1.4 petrol ang car ko. tutubo ka lang pag 12 hrs full time bcoz of our traffic condition here in manila + gas consumption mo(avg 7 km/ltr) sometimes break even ka pa kung sideline lang ang gagawin mo, den yung pagod mo pa sa trapik, need mo kumita ng min 1,300 for more than 12 trips which would take 12-15 hrs per day. Here's my sample computation total earnings 1,300 - 800(it depends sa fuel consumption), may net income ka na 500- 600. Again 12 hrs to ha or min 12 trips isipin m nlang ang stress na ibibigay sau. Kung may driver ka pwede kau mag hatian ng 60/40 sa driver
Hi Sir Alfie,

based po dun sa computations nyo, are the incentives not included? I mean the total earnings are just the per trip payment of the rider?
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
How did it go? any updates? Can it cover your amortization? Thanks
Hi Sir Alfie,

based po dun sa computations nyo, are the incentives not included? I mean the total earnings are just the per trip payment of the rider?
yes, di sya kasama eto yung actual earnings na bawas na si uber, so kung 1,300 ang actual earnings mo yung bill mo mga nsa 1,500 est, kung may incentives na ibigay si uber like promo etc.. Pag hahatian uli namin yun normally naman ang incentives nsa 200 per week lang din kaya di ko sya na coconsider as expected income and lastly try mo rin i consider your car mo na it will be ruin in the process kc nag aaverage km run ka ng 200 km per day. So kamusta nman ang re selling value ng car mo after 5 yrs
 
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turbovator

Well-Known Member
Hi to all, My name is Glenn, hope everyone is doing fine. Im fairly new to Uber and i hope to get some inputs and tips from experienced uber operators and share my experiences here as well. Iv been operating for 2 weeks already, and just as im getting the hang of things for the incentives and promos. The third week Aug. 3, to Aug 9 seems to be a little different and the incentives got a little less from 400 to 350 pesos for champ drivers. Iv heard from other ubers that, a few months back, December 2014, the incentive was 450 pesos for champ drivers peak hours incentives. Im wondering if this is gonna be a trend like, incentives getting lower and the trips required to get the incentives would get stiffer... Id like to ask if anybody could share and comment on that? Thanks
A year ago you could make good money as an Uber driver. Since then it has been a common on going practice for
Uber to periodically to lower its fares,incentives and proms. Today they announced it was raising its commission from % 20 to % 25 for any new driver that was activated after 8/6.
There has been a consistent pattern
of changes that all result in the drivers making less money. Driver well being is not a concern for Uber. The fact is Uber feels that a driver is an expendable commodity and easily replaced.
 

turbovator

Well-Known Member
20% is a big chunk to my revenue what more if they raised to 25%, buti sna kung yung customer service nila here in manila is ok.

Yes, for the present, but you can bet on it's on the schedule for sometime in the future. Uber is not well thought of or trusted here in the states.
 

sneakyserna

New Member
Here's my realistic computation after 1 month of operating UBer, P200 per hr is not a realistic income, tutubo ka lang pag 12 hrs full time bcoz of our traffic condition here in manila + gas consumption mo, sometimes break even ka pa kung sideline lang ang gagawin mo, den yung pagod mo pa sa trapik, need mo kumita ng min 1,300 for more than 12 trips which would take 12-15 hrs per day. Here's my sample computation total earnings 1,300 - 800(it depends sa fuel consumption), may net income ka na 500- 600. Again 12 hrs to ha or min 12 trips isipin m nlang ang stress na ibibigay sau. Kung may driver ka pwede kau mag hatian ng 60/40 sadriver ska yung km run almost 200km per day. Damn kawawa nman kotse ko mabilis sya malalaspag. T
Thank you AlfieMarc. So basically parang di talaga sya worth it? specially im buying a new car pa just for uber. Cguro it will be more profitable kung you have an existing car already or perhaps buy a second hand car. Kasi kung per day nett income mo is 600, (driving for 12 hours) for 26 days (excluding coding days) roughly phph 15,600 ka lang per month? lalo na kung hatiin mo pa to with your driver at 60/40 ratio, take home mo is php 9,360
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
Yes, yung sa akin kc existing car na, pambawas lang sa monthly ko, ang tapos ng monthly amortization ko is by next yr. So ok na pang uber kung ibebenta mo nman sya 2 or 3 yrs from now kc mababa nlang din nman ang re selling value nya at least pinag kakitaan mo pa
 

rony hoque

New Member
hi all my drivers drive around 15 hours a day ,i am about to fire one driver as he starts whenever he wants which does not work on uber
 

rony hoque

New Member
Hi again Sir Rony,

Are the incentives discussed on the Uber Info Session? I have been reading all about this incentives to hit, what exactly are they?

Also, what's your say on car maintenance? Who pays for it and how much should I take out of the gross income for maintenance costs?
car maintenance is paid by the operator u should put away 500 away a week
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
sorry honey dont understand tigalog
Normally sa mga trusted relatives na driver ka lang makakakuha, pwede ka rin mag pirate ng mga existing taxi driver. Malaki ang chance nila lumipat lalo na kung 60/40 ang hatian just don't forget na strick ka sa policy and guidelines.
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
How true the news that LTFB will have an operation to crack down all uber operator/partner this coming august 20,2015?
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
All -

Upon reading all their new guidelines in applying accreditation, there are two statements caught my attention.

1st - Issuing electronic receipts to passengers and screen its drivers and display his/her ID.

- I'm hoping that this is not the gadget that will print the receipt and placed in dashboard same with taxi cab.

We already know that after the completion of trip, UBer system will automatically send the receipt via electronic email. So if they insisted to have that useless machine mounted in our dashboard I think we don't have any difference to a public taxi car and this will also make me to decide to stop operating my uber car.

2nd - (Operators/drivers) They will also have to put a "trade dress" or a distinctive signage on the car to distinguish them from private vehicles.

- Did they mean that they will also required us to put the case number painted inside and outside our car? Damm LTFRB! I joined Uber Car as my additional income and I also want to feel that I'm still driving my private car specially during rest day of my driver (weekend)

If my two assumptions are correct, I'm sure that I am not the only one thinking these sentiments and they will also consider to stop operating their uber cars.
 

rony hoque

New Member
All -

Upon reading all their new guidelines in applying accreditation, there are two statements caught my attention.

1st - Issuing electronic receipts to passengers and screen its drivers and display his/her ID.

- I'm hoping that this is not the gadget that will print the receipt and placed in dashboard same with taxi cab.

We already know that after the completion of trip, UBer system will automatically send the receipt via electronic email. So if they insisted to have that useless machine mounted in our dashboard I think we don't have any difference to a public taxi car and this will also make me to decide to stop operating my uber car.

2nd - (Operators/drivers) They will also have to put a "trade dress" or a distinctive signage on the car to distinguish them from private vehicles.

- Did they mean that they will also required us to put the case number painted inside and outside our car? Damm LTFRB! I joined Uber Car as my additional income and I also want to feel that I'm still driving my private car specially during rest day of my driver (weekend)

If my two assumptions are correct, I'm sure that I am not the only one thinking these sentiments and they will also consider to stop operating their uber cars.
Hi Sir,

do u have the link where these things are mentioned as i am also very concerned
 

bigugly115

New Member
What can you say about this? What can we do about this?
LTFRB plans to open own premium taxi service

Metro Manila (CNN Philippines) — The Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) revealed its plans of opening its own premium taxi service — a service like that of app-based transportation providers Uber, GrabCar, and GrabTaxi.

This is according to the draft of a memorandum circular posted on the LTFRB website.

In the memo, it said the premium taxi service should be in accordance with Department Order No. 2015-011 with the following operation characteristics:

should be a four or five door sedan automobile, with engine displacement of 2000cc or higher (or its equivalent, if electric-, hybrid-, or alternate fuel-powered vehicle)

air-conditioned

with no fixed route

the fare will be as authorized by LTFRB

seating capacity for four people, excluding the driver

LTFRB also set the operating conditions for the premium taxis:

The operator must have at least twenty (20) units in his/her fleet;

The top light must display “Premium Taxi;”

Drivers must be in uniform and must have company IDs;

All vehicles must have clear windows;

All vehicles must be brand new at the time of franchise application;

All vehicles must be in color set by the LTFRB;

All vehicles shall have a maximum age of seven years;

All vehicles must be equipped with a GPS vehicle tracking and navigation device;

All vehicles must be equipped with an on-board electric taxi fare payment device capable of processing payments made with credit card or debit card;

The operator must have a facility for booking and dispatching by way of an online or smartphone-based application;

The operator must have its own workshop and depot with a space of at least 15 sq.m. per vehicle and a total area of at least 750 sq.m. This should be separate from any existing workshop and depot already occupied by or assigned to other taxis in their fleet; and,

The operator must comply with rules and regulations issued by government agencies.

Those who would want to be a part of the premium taxi service must submit the necessary legal, technical, and financial capability documents.

Related: LTFRB hits back at 'premium taxi' bashers

A Pre-Qualification Committee was also created, with Atty. Roberto P. Cabrera III as the chairman.

The premium taxi service of the LTFRB may be rolled out before 2015 ends, as per the timetable posted on the draft of the memorandum circular.

The premium taxi service and its conditions aim to "promote safety, protection, comfort, and convenience to persons and property in their charges, as well as the safety of persons and property within their areas of operations."

CNN Philippines reiterates that the memo posted on the website is a draft, and is therefore subject to change.

Days after announced Uber, Grabcar crackdown
The memorandum circular was posted just days after the news of the crackdown on Uber, Grabcar, and other app-based and online-ride sharing service providers if they fail to secure a franchise before August 21.

In May, the LTFRB added a new transport category, the Transportation Network Vehicle Service (TNVS), to cover these types of service.

Department of Transportation and Communications Secretary Jun Abaya said this move is being made "to motivate other public utility vehicle operators to modernize, upgrade, and innovate their services for the benefit of the public."

Below is the draft of a memorandum circular posted on the LTFRB website.
 

AlfieMarc

New Member
Kalokohan! Kunchabahan na nman ng mga operator yan! Anyway kung totoo man yan goodbye uber sorry sa mga nag uumpisa plang mag business like me
 
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