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Lyft Female Paxholes

nurburgringsf

Well-Known Member
K, noticed as of late, female paxholes using Lyft really like the cancel button.
Geez, what the hell is going on?
Am I really that ugly?
I did Lyft for a full year in SF from March 2015 to March 2016. It is very common for females to cancel on drivers they don't like (or if they don't cancel they act super defensive/rude and frightened). Think of it like Tinder, its a quick very superficial and racist Hot or Not swipe. If you are not a White male, women are more likely to cancel on you. Ethnic men (Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, Black, Hispanic) are heavily discriminated against by women of all races on Lyft and Tinder especially by White women. Thats just the sad truth out there in our society whether you like it or not.
 

Rosalita

Active Member
I can't speak to S.F. but my Midwest large city has plenty of diverse male drivers and I don't hear them complaining about all these cancellations from female pax. But here's another interesting fact to toss into the mix: Given that the majority of both Lyft's and Uber's drivers are over the age of 50, I'm thinking your opinion on why females cancel is off the mark. By your reasoning if females are ordering rides to find dates then more than half of all male drivers would be experiencing tons of cancellations regardless of ethnicity because they would be considered too old.

I once had the same guy at the airport cancel the ride on me 5 times in a row! Think he wanted a younger female driver or maybe some one of a certain ethnicity? Nope. He thought the 12 minute wait time was too long and didn't factor in it was Thanksgiving and that's how long it was taking us drivers to get through the traffic lined up outside the airport. See? It wasn't personal.
 

nurburgringsf

Well-Known Member
I did several thousand rides in that year I did Lyft. Obviously not all female riders do quick cancels on the drivers but a lot of them do. Or if they don't cancel they are very defensive/rude, but all of a sudden very nice when someone of a similar background gets matched in a pool ride. I drove for Lyft long enough to notice the pattern of quick cancels/defensive stuckup rudeness from a certain demographic and really detested it. And lets be real now, (at least in SF) a certain demographic uses Lyft but back in the day (2015) it was even moreso the case.

I absolutely hated Lyft back then for a lot of reasons not just the quick cancels. Back then (idk if its still the case), you had to maintain an acceptance rate of 90% or higher, and had to do rides in certain hours (morning/evening rush) to hit the bonus. This required split shifting which is really damn hard on you. Their highest Tier bonus required 50hrs of logged in time. Plus you had to talk and be friendly again which was extremely hard as you were sleep deprived and agitated from all of the paxhole BS. You had to pick everyone up including low rated paxholes.

And it didn't help that Lyft paxholes were exceptionally annoying.

Quick cancels was a theme on Lyft. It was extremely frustrating and thats when I began to analyze, observe, and count. In my last months I talked to a few drivers and heard/saw many similar complaints online regarding the bias issue with some of the paxholes (so sorry to burst your bubble but I have no doubt about it that race and gender played a role). I knew right away what it was. Lyft even had an algorithm back in the day to match pool riders/drivers with similar backgrounds. I'm sure they still have it now.

But anyways, I was a full time driver back then so I preferred Uber which was straight to the point, far less quick cancels. Virtually all demographics use Uber. Everyone. And the bonuses were and still are easier to achieve relative to Lyft. I switched back to Uber in early 2016.

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Its always been a well known issue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/6qck9j
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/3v7w1z
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/8g2fx0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/7bwf4b
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/78ljpk
A lot of the comments were people just beating around the bush whereas I dropped the real truth here.
 

mbd

Well-Known Member
Cancel fee charged immediately,then un match pax
5$ maybe too much, but 2$in the first 5 minutes
But then again , you have drivers declining on pax, at very high rates... you never question drivers...
I will get African pax's from airport( usually Nigerians with unusual names,, )or low rated pax's, including white males ... Algo will present that person to me 🤔My queue number maybe 25, but that bro is coming to me straight in a silver platter. I don't usually call and verify, can spot the pax easily , from the crowd 👍
That pax is probably declined 10 times from another state or airport drivers declining him.
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I did several thousand rides in that year I did Lyft. Obviously not all female riders do quick cancels on the drivers but a lot of them do. Or if they don't cancel they are very defensive/rude, but all of a sudden very nice when someone of a similar background gets matched in a pool ride. I drove for Lyft long enough to notice the pattern of quick cancels/defensive stuckup rudeness from a certain demographic and really detested it. And lets be real now, (at least in SF) a certain demographic uses Lyft but back in the day (2015) it was even moreso the case.

I absolutely hated Lyft back then for a lot of reasons not just the quick cancels. Back then (idk if its still the case), you had to maintain an acceptance rate of 90% or higher, and had to do rides in certain hours (morning/evening rush) to hit the bonus. This required split shifting which is really damn hard on you. Their highest Tier bonus required 50hrs of logged in time. Plus you had to talk and be friendly again which was extremely hard as you were sleep deprived and agitated from all of the paxhole BS. You had to pick everyone up including low rated paxholes. And it didn't help that Lyft paxholes were exceptionally annoying. Quick cancels was a theme on Lyft. It was extremely frustrating and thats when I began to analyze, observe, and count. In my last months I talked to a few drivers and heard/saw many similar complaints online regarding the bias issue with some of the paxholes (so sorry to burst your bubble but I have no doubt about it that race and gender played a role). I knew right away what it was. Lyft even had an algorithm back in the day to match pool riders/drivers with similar backgrounds. I'm sure they still have it now.

But anyways, I was a full time driver back then so I preferred Uber which was straight to the point, far less quick cancels. Virtually all demographics use Uber. Everyone. And the bonuses were and still are easier to achieve relative to Lyft. I switched back to Uber in early 2016.
Post automatically merged:

Its always been a well known issue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/6qck9j
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/3v7w1z
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/8g2fx0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/7bwf4b
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/78ljpk
A lot of the comments were people just beating around the bush whereas I dropped the real truth here.
If a pax cancels, turn your app off for few minutes, and try to go away from the address, thus increasing distance from the pax.
 

XTS CADDIE

New Member
I'm an older female driver. I've had many female pax tell me I was the first female driver dispatched for their ride and they wish they would get more females drivers. Said they feel safer with a female driver. It's not you. It's us. roflmao
I thought the word “FEMALE” was only to define female animals ..
 

mbd

Well-Known Member
I did several thousand rides in that year I did Lyft. Obviously not all female riders do quick cancels on the drivers but a lot of them do. Or if they don't cancel they are very defensive/rude, but all of a sudden very nice when someone of a similar background gets matched in a pool ride. I drove for Lyft long enough to notice the pattern of quick cancels/defensive stuckup rudeness from a certain demographic and really detested it. And lets be real now, (at least in SF) a certain demographic uses Lyft but back in the day (2015) it was even moreso the case.
I absolutely hated Lyft back then for a lot of reasons not just the quick cancels. Back then (idk if its still the case), you had to maintain an acceptance rate of 90% or higher, and had to do rides in certain hours (morning/evening rush) to hit the bonus. This required split shifting which is really damn hard on you. Their highest Tier bonus required 50hrs of logged in time. Plus you had to talk and be friendly again which was extremely hard as you were sleep deprived and agitated from all of the paxhole BS. You had to pick everyone up including low rated paxholes. And it didn't help that Lyft paxholes were exceptionally annoying. Quick cancels was a theme on Lyft. It was extremely frustrating and thats when I began to analyze, observe, and count. In my last months I talked to a few drivers and heard/saw many similar complaints online regarding the bias issue with some of the paxholes (so sorry to burst your bubble but I have no doubt about it that race and gender played a role). I knew right away what it was. Lyft even had an algorithm back in the day to match pool riders/drivers with similar backgrounds. I'm sure they still have it now.

But anyways, I was a full time driver back then so I preferred Uber which was straight to the point, far less quick cancels. Virtually all demographics use Uber. Everyone. And the bonuses were and still are easier to achieve relative to Lyft. I switched back to Uber in early 2016.
Post automatically merged:

Its always been a well known issue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/6qck9j
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/3v7w1z
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/8g2fx0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/7bwf4b
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyft/comments/78ljpk
A lot of the comments were people just beating around the bush whereas I dropped the real truth here.
4.7 might have been a issue with the pax ... now it should be 4.9 or 5 due to the new rating system
 

The Texan

Well-Known Member
I've been Uber ~ 5 wks. ; lyft this week only- I turn on both apps at once, and go off line on one if I get a pax on the other.

I've had cancellations. I never worried about it. If I thought about it though,
I would think they had a reason other than racism, or the look of my face, color of my skin, etc.

Could have been things like:
- decided not to go anyways
- got a last minute ride
- wait time too long?
- etc.

I would hope in this day and age, a cancellation is not based on race, sex, or age.

And, I cold imagine that there may be times that it is though. I still want to put more faith in others,
and think it's not the race, sex, age thing. I dunno
 

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