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Lyft exec says "we are a company of morals".

How many of your rides are shared?

  • 40% or higher

    Votes: 7 13.7%
  • 30% are shared

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • 20% are shared

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • 10% or less are shared.

    Votes: 39 76.5%

  • Total voters
    51

Yam Digger

Well-Known Member
Lyft exec says "we are a company of morals".

H’oh boy. If this is what good morals are supposed to be, I can’t even begin to imagine what Crimes-Against-Humanity would look like.
 

MoneyMitch

Well-Known Member
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"Foxx said 40% of Lyft’s rides are already shared, and the company aims to push that to 50% by 2020. You can expect to see Lyft’s app push that option more prominently."

Is this true?
Was your poll referring to how many shared pings do you (the driver) accept or how many shared pings come across
I have a hard time seeing how 40% of all rides are Shared. But then again, I am in what is considered to be a "medium" sized city, and Shared is not that big of a thing here. If it was, I would have Shared pings all day long. As it is, I get maybe one Shared ping every day or two days.

I suppose the drivers in SF, Orlando, LA, Chi or NY could speak to the volume of Shared pings.
The volume of shared pings in NJ is disgusting. They are mostly from urban areas, however there are exceptions. You also wouldn’t believe how many people request shared at the airports here.
 

Lawlet91

Active Member
I have a hard time seeing how 40% of all rides are Shared. But then again, I am in what is considered to be a "medium" sized city, and Shared is not that big of a thing here. If it was, I would have Shared pings all day long. As it is, I get maybe one Shared ping every day or two days.

I suppose the drivers in SF, Orlando, LA, Chi or NY could speak to the volume of Shared pings.
Orlando doesn’t even have shared options. Miami and maybe Tampa too, but shared prices would never fly in a market that pays less for typical rides than many markets pay for shared
 

burgerflipper

Well-Known Member
Lyft has been worse than uber from the very beginning.

There are countless examples i could give, but i dont have the time to type them all.

But they are better at smiling than uber. Better at friendliness than uber. And it works on journalists, because theyve never actually driven for lyft.
 

Stevie The magic Unicorn

Well-Known Member
What has morals and shared rides to do with each other? They're different topics.
Shared rides are better morally in the sense that they are better for the environment.

The reality is that I highly doubt that the shared rides have any drivers pushing 75% paid mileage ratios let alone over 100%

The shared ride illusion was a bunch of crap from the early days about ridesharing being better for the environment than driving yourself.

Which is a total fallacy considering that you would need a very high proportion of matched shared fares to hit as bad as driving yourself.

Vehicles for hire in America have traditionally been used to

A. Get home when you are too liquored up to drive.

B. For those who can’t drive themselves. (Temporally or permanently)

C. For when airport parking is more expensive than a taxi

D. For when your on vacation and you want to drink moderately to heavily

E. In the Top 10 cities in the US as a supplement to the public transit.


Uber was able to penetrate the markets with their cheap service, but it’s imporyant to point out that taxis never were a replacement for vehicle ownership.
 

SurgeMasterMN

Well-Known Member
Lyft has mastered the art of Perceived Morals. But most people both riders and drivers alike would agree Lyft is the lesser of two evils.

If Lyft can start identifying the pain points of drivers and making it better then they will come out on top in the end and truly prove without a doubt to the drivers as well as the passengers that they are a company of Morals.

What Lyft Needs to do:

1. Take less from the drivers which they do most of the time on mid to long trips.

2. Open up options to help drivers with larger vehicles make more and not be forced to take regular rides that are a lost liter for gas mileage and oversized vehicles.

3. Start a program that with each ride a driver takes a portion of their money goes into a forced savings that the driver can cash out when an emergency pops up. (Optional)

4. A rider fund for when a driver is seriously injured in an accident. Lyft should go above and beyond to help with 100% medical expenses and vehicle replacement. (Optional)

5. Low cost health insurance for full time drivers that take x amount of trips per week or x amount of revenue per week. Encourage drivers to take care of their health by teaming up with local Gyms / Workout Locations to offer drivers a near free membership to keep their bodies healthy. (Optional)

6. Counter Ubers quote in their IPO docs stating it is going to get worse for drivers and they will become more upset. This is key. Lyft needs to take this and run in the opposite direction and make it be known to the drivers and riders alike.

7. Hiring longterm drivers that have been doing it for 3-4 years to help build a better driving experience for all drivers. They could offer an attractive salary to those veterans that could work in each one of their cities to help improve the driver experience at a local level. Each city is different so they need these inside veteran drivers to identify local issues. I think this is the missing element that Lyft is overlooking. They need to bring in veteran drivers from each city to hire full time to help fix these pain points to encourage driver retention and make the experience better. Make it a blend of driving as well as working with Lyft Corporate. This would ensure that the hireee would not lose sight of the drivers viewpoint.

8. Start capping the amount of drivers in each state across the country. Having a maximum amount onboarded at any given time. This will even the pie out for all drivers giving them the ability to make a good full time wage. Look at the history of the cab drivers 100 years ago in NYC and why they put a cap on drivers. This is why they put a cap on cabbies back then. History is repeating today via Rideshare and the unlimited drivers in most cities.

** If you are from Lyft Corporate and are reading this I encourage you to print this list out and deliver it to the top.
 
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Karen Stein

Well-Known Member
I'll give the previous post an "A" as in AMORAL.

How implementing a socialist system that has produced misery and failure every time it has been used, attempting to create a Utopia, and expecting it to work this time is simply insane.

But, heck, a century of unhappy cab service must be wrong. We really need to make rideshare exactly like cab driving to improve the experience. Not!
 

smarternotharder

Active Member
I ignore all shared pings...
opted out first day after about 20 emails

never accepted one never would & havent seen one since

theres no way 40% of rides are shared maybe 40% of requests are since most of their demographic cant afford the service

dont quite understand uber or lyft promotiong the pool/shared experience as their baby when 99% of drivers would opt out or toggle it off if given the option like a true independent contractor only an employee would be forced to accept certain rides
 

TheDevilisaParttimer

Well-Known Member
opted out first day after about 20 emails

never accepted one never would & havent seen one since

theres no way 40% of rides are shared maybe 40% of requests are since most of their demographic cant afford the service

dont quite understand uber or lyft promotiong the pool/shared experience as their baby when 99% of drivers would opt out or toggle it off if given the option like a true independent contractor only an employee would be forced to accept certain rides
I’m fairly sure it’s 40% of requests vs rides. It only takes one driver to pick up 3 pool requests but that is technically one ride.
 

burgerflipper

Well-Known Member
Lyft has mastered the art of Perceived Morals. But most people both riders and drivers alike would agree Lyft is the lesser of two evils.

If Lyft can start identifying the pain points of drivers and making it better then they will come out on top in the end and truly prove without a doubt to the drivers as well as the passengers that they are a company of Morals.

What Lyft Needs to do:

1. Take less from the drivers which they do most of the time on mid to long trips.

2. Open up options to help drivers with larger vehicles make more and not be forced to take regular rides that are a lost liter for gas mileage and oversized vehicles.

3. Start a program that with each ride a driver takes a portion of their money goes into a forced savings that the driver can cash out when an emergency pops up. (Optional)

4. A rider fund for when a driver is seriously injured in an accident. Lyft should go above and beyond to help with 100% medical expenses and vehicle replacement. (Optional)

5. Low cost health insurance for full time drivers that take x amount of trips per week or x amount of revenue per week. Encourage drivers to take care of their health by teaming up with local Gyms / Workout Locations to offer drivers a near free membership to keep their bodies healthy. (Optional)

6. Counter Ubers quote in their IPO docs stating it is going to get worse for drivers and they will become more upset. This is key. Lyft needs to take this and run in the opposite direction and make it be known to the drivers and riders alike.

7. Hiring longterm drivers that have been doing it for 3-4 years to help build a better driving experience for all drivers. They could offer an attractive salary to those veterans that could work in each one of their cities to help improve the driver experience at a local level. Each city is different so they need these inside veteran drivers to identify local issues. I think this is the missing element that Lyft is overlooking. They need to bring in veteran drivers from each city to hire full time to help fix these pain points to encourage driver retention and make the experience better. Make it a blend of driving as well as working with Lyft Corporate. This would ensure that the hireee would not lose sight of the drivers viewpoint.

8. Start capping the amount of drivers in each state across the country. Having a maximum amount onboarded at any given time. This will even the pie out for all drivers giving them the ability to make a good full time wage. Look at the history of the cab drivers 100 years ago in NYC and why they put a cap on drivers. This is why they put a cap on cabbies back then. History is repeating today via Rideshare and the unlimited drivers in most cities.

** If you are from Lyft Corporate and are reading this I encourage you to print this list out and deliver it to the top.
Lyft has no interest in improving things for drivers, they are definitely the greater of two evils. Maybe when they stop stealing our cancellation fees I'll reevaluate. Etc.
 
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