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Legal Question About Drunks

Last night bartenders were carrying a patron out to my car. They collected the money to get the person to this state and the plan was to dump the problem on me. This person needed medical attention, not an Uber. I left just as they were approaching my door. There was no way I was taking on this problem.

I'm switching to no bar runs or OSU campus rides after 9:30 and spending more time on the daylight hours after this and many other incidents with intoxicated people. It seems that many have found that they not only get a driver, but a babysitter to take care of them.

I remember learning in a class that a contract is not valid if it's made while one of the parties is intoxicated. When they call for the ride, that initiates a contract. I wonder where the Uber driver stands if something happens when the contract may not even be valid?
 

Over/Uber

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It’s a slippery slope when someone orders a ride for another who is incapable and cannot consent.

OTH, the law or a court may look to the intent of the person ordering the ride, since their motive may be to simply get the individual home safely and to reduce the risk of harm to others on the road. Thus, the law would protect the bartender and the RS Co.

But, I’m no legal expert and I’m sure the “pros” on this site will shred my opinion.
 
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Right. So the bartender is relieved of responsibility and it's transferred to me. Then if the drunk does whatever drunken fools do, it's just my problem. If they pass out and die in the snow on the way to their door, the driver is probably liable.

All that for $3 and no tip. LOL.
 

Over/Uber

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Yep, I know. I’ve helped people to their door and washed my hands of them as it closed behind me walking away.

Sucks for us
 

Cableguynoe

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Last night bartenders were carrying a patron out to my car. They collected the money to get the person to this state and the plan was to dump the problem on me. This person needed medical attention, not an Uber. I left just as they were approaching my door. There was no way I was taking on this problem.

I'm switching to no bar runs or OSU campus rides after 9:30 and spending more time on the daylight hours after this and many other incidents with intoxicated people. It seems that many have found that they not only get a driver, but a babysitter to take care of them.

I remember learning in a class that a contract is not valid if it's made while one of the parties is intoxicated. When they call for the ride, that initiates a contract. I wonder where the Uber driver stands if something happens when the contract may not even be valid?
Why avoid the bar scene? You handled this perfectly.

It's the drivers that don't have the courage to do what you did that should stick to daytime driving.

Most of the time drunks are going to be fine.

If you can tell they are not, dont take them, just like you did. Especially if they're alone.

I haven't had any major problems yet.
 

CvilleUber

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I had one guy get in the car - and say I needed to go around the corner to pick up his friend because he was sitting on the curb.

My response: "If your friend can't walk 20 feet - I don't want him in my car"
He wasn't very happy (of course) - so I cancelled the ride and try to find another Uber who would be dumb enough to take his ride.

Normally - I wouldn't unlock the door, when they can't hold themselves up, but this situation was a new one for me.
 
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Why avoid the bar scene? You handled this perfectly.

It's the drivers that don't have the courage to do what you did that should stick to daytime driving.

Most of the time drunks are going to be fine.

If you can tell they are not, dont take them, just like you did. Especially if they're alone.

I haven't had any major problems yet.
I don't consider it a courage issue so much as a financial or legal liability issue. If I keep up with the bar scene, I'll just have to hope that the ratings really don't matter much because I'm going to start cancelling at the slightest hint of a problem.

The night before this, I had a couple sticking their fingers in each other's mouth trying to gag each other into puking. They thought it was funny that I would have to deal with them puking. I got video of this. It's incredible that grown-ups are acting like this. I guess I've kept myself out of this scene and it's a rude awakening.
 

1974toyota

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Last night bartenders were carrying a patron out to my car. They collected the money to get the person to this state and the plan was to dump the problem on me. This person needed medical attention, not an Uber. I left just as they were approaching my door. There was no way I was taking on this problem.

I'm switching to no bar runs or OSU campus rides after 9:30 and spending more time on the daylight hours after this and many other incidents with intoxicated people. It seems that many have found that they not only get a driver, but a babysitter to take care of them.

I remember learning in a class that a contract is not valid if it's made while one of the parties is intoxicated. When they call for the ride, that initiates a contract. I wonder where the Uber driver stands if something happens when the contract may not even be valid?
When a bartender, or anyone else HELPS' a guy into your car, w/o a escort to help said Pax to get into his front door, when you drop, Leave,don't think leave,the guy could fall asleep,can't wake him up,big increase in Vomit %%, the odds are against you, even if your desperate for a Pax,^ $income, walk/drive away, JMO

I don't consider it a courage issue so much as a financial or legal liability issue. If I keep up with the bar scene, I'll just have to hope that the ratings really don't matter much because I'm going to start cancelling at the slightest hint of a problem.

The night before this, I had a couple sticking their fingers in each other's mouth trying to gag each other into puking. They thought it was funny that I would have to deal with them puking. I got video of this. It's incredible that grown-ups are acting like this. I guess I've kept myself out of this scene and it's a rude awakening.
When Alcohol is involved, which is a "mind altering drug thats legal" do not ever be surprised on the effect alcohol can have on anyone, 21-91, JMO

Yep, I know. I’ve helped people to their door and washed my hands of them as it closed behind me walking away.

Sucks for us
helped them get to there door? You would NEVER see me do that, NEVER, i had people ask me to help a guy get into my car,he was too blasted,i said its a liability issue, these are 1 offs you have drunk people and once in a while you have a really drunk person,those you calmly drive away, but a certain %%% of drunks are bad news, but IMO its a very low %%% just learn to spot them, jmo
 

RynoHawk

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Right. So the bartender is relieved of responsibility and it's transferred to me...
Only if you let them into the car and accept the ride. You, sir, made the right call.

I love being able to help keep drunk drivers off the road, but I'm not going to accept someone who cannot walk or talk, especially if they're alone and double especially if they're a woman.
 

Squirming Like A Toad

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Absolutely not. If they can't walk and talk, I can't take them. They may vomit or otherwise foul your vehicle, they may have a medical emergency (we're just assuming they're drunk, it could be something else), they cannot communicate directions. Then you have to get them out of the car at the destination. No way, never.

The other thing to consider is that bad things happen to the unconscious and you are the last person with a record of being in contact with them. Drunk girl crawls out of your car, passes out in front of her house, then some guy comes along and finds her and gives her the business. Maybe something really sadistic that will make national news. How do you prove you didn't have anything to do with it? Guarantee you will be a person of interest.
 
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