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Juggalo9er

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I suppose you don't see a problem with trying to mess with people like that? What makes you feel special, entitled, somehow?

Calling drivers you don't even know "ant" and deriding them based on the one time you saw them on the street, thats no better than lumping people together by race or ethnicity.

They're just trying to earn, like you and me.
What if they Are only here for the tax deductions and star trek fans?
 

UberBeemer

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What they’re doing is violating the TOS, you can’t argue that.
You under-estimate my ability to argue. But i am curious, who is violating the TOS, and how? I thought we were talking about this really bad idea of reporting drivers as intoxicated just to get them deactivated?
 

Ridesharing_Pilot

Active Member
You under-estimate my ability to argue. But i am curious, who is violating the TOS, and how? I thought we were talking about this really bad idea of reporting drivers as intoxicated just to get them deactivated?
Lol, no. I was talking about the reporting fellow drivers that were picking up minors. The false reporting for being drunk, is complete BS. The reporting driver (and pax as well that make the false claims) need to be deactivated at the very least for doing that. Not sure where we crossed meanings, but if it was on me....I apologize.
 

Side Hustle

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LOL
Just tell your friends when they use Uber to report their driver for being intoxicated.

I drive in a smaller city, usually around 4 or 5 Uber drivers & 1 or 2 Lyft drivers online at a time. But something happened this week it seemes new drivers are showing up overnight. Must have been a New Years resolution to drive for Uber or something.
“But something happened this week”.
I think it’s going on in allot of areas. Now seeing the same thing in Fort Worth. My guess in Fort Worth it is related to all of the Federal employees that are on furlough, but also the teachers who are driving until school restarts. There seems to be three times as many drivers now since mid December.
As far as reducing the number of drivers, all the ride share companies have to do is follow the Amazon Flex practice of soft blocking drivers. Amazon usually does not remove drivers outright, but stops giving drivers anything more than occasional work after the driver has been driving for over a year for them. I know it doesn’t make sense, but that’s what Big A does. I don’t think the RS companies want to get rid of drivers.
 
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DMAGENT99

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Legit way to accomplish this would be to have local legislators set limitations on Uber for each class of service in areas.
 

Ridesharing_Pilot

Active Member
Legit way to accomplish this would be to have local legislators set limitations on Uber for each class of service in areas.
They do that in NYC.....ask a NY cabbie if that is working. Uber and Lyft NEED to hire people to police their own drivers. Call them Driver Team Leads or whatever. Give them the “God” version of the app, and let them drive around and assure drivers are in compliance. When found not to be, immediately deactivate them, and then let corporate follow up if need be. Naturally, this will never happen, as Uber and Lyft know that drivers break the rules, some all day. This benefits them as it increases income, while they sit fully protected by saying the driver is in violation of the TOS....so don’t blame us, blame the driver. You can be 100% assured when one of these idiots picks up a child with no seat, or a 15yo HS kid, and then gets in a wreck......you will not be covered by ANYTHING, not insurance, not legal representation....nothing. Uber/Lyft will 100% hang you out to dry....and rightfully so. If you can’t afford tires, or brakes for your vehicle....you’re really going to have an issue with a $350/hr (minimum) Attorney after you killed someone.
 

nomad_driver

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To get get my fellow drivers off the road I would use a valve stem core tool. Doesn't damage the car but it's tires can't hold air until the driver can get a new valve core.
 

SuzeCB

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About 2 years ago I too was adamantly under the belief that it was illegal, for the same reason as you (need fingerprinting). I contacted Lyft and asked if there was any sort of special things I could do (extra background check, fingerprints) to become authorized to transport kids. After all, there is obviously a market for it! Lyft blew me off, with a generic response about "it's not allowed".

When I interviewed with the largest local taxi company here in town, they indicated that taxis were allowed to transport unaccompanied minors, presumably because they went thru better background checks. But since we don't know what their checks entail exactly, or if they are even different like they claim, there is a loose end.

I engaged in discussions on this forum regarding the illegality of it all, and there were many who claimed it was NOT illegal in many states. I finally decided to do my own research....

In California, it IS illegal, I have seen the legal verbage (and people have posted it here as well). In Oregon and Washington, there is NO MENTION ANYWHERE in state laws nor in TNC regulations that prohibit transporting minors. It is simply a Lyft and Uber regulation.

Since I don't drive in any other states, I have not taken the time to personally research anywhere else. So I can't speak to that. Maybe since it is illegal in CA, U/L decided to keep the rules uniform everywhere in the US and just say no.

As far as why the companies ban it, they have never given a written answer to anyone. It is widely believed by drivers that they ban it because their insurance will not cover it, but since we have never seen their insurance policies and U/L won't put anything in writing, we really don't know if that is the case or not.
Uber/Lyft make it against TOS (Lyft says at least one rider must be 18 or over, Uber is more strict, saying the 18 or older ACCOUNT HOLDER be taking the ride with the minor), not because of the usual auto insurance issues, but OTHER liability issues...

Transporting a minor across state lines.

Transporting a minor to meet up with the 55-year-old they met on the internet and think is 17.

Transporting a minor that is running away from home.

Transporting a minor who is making a drug run.

U/L make it against policy so that all of the responsibility stays firmly in the hands of the adult account holder (Uber more efficiently than Lyft). If the driver adheres to the policy, s/he is safe, as well.

If s/he doesn't, then Uber is covered, and it's up to the driver, should something go sideways, to put out the money for the good defense attorney, and pay off any judgement against him/her.

Almost any time a ride is given to a minor, it will be fine. Nothing is going to happen. But if it doooooooes.... it's your butt swingin' in the wind. You have absolutely no safety net (unless you're driving Black and carrying your own full commercial policy, not just rideshare endorsement).

It's all good til it ain't.
 

Nats121

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I focus on driving smarter, rather than chasing silly dreams or trying to fix all the world's problems.

I don't want people to think I'm over-saturating the social justice warrior market, lol!
I don't know if it's come to Miami, but in many markets, including here is DC, uber and lyft's new pay cut punishes drivers who drive smarter.
 

dryverjohn

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I am not about to wage a ware against U/L or their lawyers.

What do you think would happen if CNBC or 60 minutes scrolled a headline that Uber/Lyft is skirting the law with ambiguous language in the name of profits? If collectively, drivers let passenger know and somehow the press finds out, what is the potential for an IPO stock adjustment. I would like to see Uber and Lyft fail, that is not going to happen. What if their partners, the ones that didn't get a Christmas bonus or stock options, were to let it be known that they are exploiting underage passengers? Fire me, deactivate me, whistle blower protection would probably still extend to an IC. Don't know on that one, but don't really care. This is about getting back at the companies that pays you less and less every year. Simultaneously raising their fares and keeping a larger %. All of this equally applies to Lyft, they are just small potatoes in comparison to Uber. They just copy what they do anyway.
 

Solid 5

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Back to the original question........

If U/L REALLY wanted to "thin the herd", the answers are easy.
I am not about to wage a ware against U/L or their lawyers.

What do you think would happen if CNBC or 60 minutes scrolled a headline that Uber/Lyft is skirting the law with ambiguous language in the name of profits? If collectively, drivers let passenger know and somehow the press finds out, what is the potential for an IPO stock adjustment. I would like to see Uber and Lyft fail, that is not going to happen. What if their partners, the ones that didn't get a Christmas bonus or stock options, were to let it be known that they are exploiting underage passengers? Fire me, deactivate me, whistle blower protection would probably still extend to an IC. Don't know on that one, but don't really care. This is about getting back at the companies that pays you less and less every year. Simultaneously raising their fares and keeping a larger %. All of this equally applies to Lyft, they are just small potatoes in comparison to Uber. They just copy what they do anyway.
Not a damn thing.......why?.......because rideshare companies are looked at by the general public as hiring a bunch of foreigners who can't read or write employed because they have no skills except being able to drive, sometimes illegally. Come on John you are smarter then that, do you HONESTLY think the public cares about anything BAD U/L may do? All the general public does is laugh at the NEGATIVE or INSULTING press both U/L and their drivers get.
 

Ridesharing_Pilot

Active Member
I am not about to wage a ware against U/L or their lawyers.

What do you think would happen if CNBC or 60 minutes scrolled a headline that Uber/Lyft is skirting the law with ambiguous language in the name of profits? If collectively, drivers let passenger know and somehow the press finds out, what is the potential for an IPO stock adjustment. I would like to see Uber and Lyft fail, that is not going to happen. What if their partners, the ones that didn't get a Christmas bonus or stock options, were to let it be known that they are exploiting underage passengers? Fire me, deactivate me, whistle blower protection would probably still extend to an IC. Don't know on that one, but don't really care. This is about getting back at the companies that pays you less and less every year. Simultaneously raising their fares and keeping a larger %. All of this equally applies to Lyft, they are just small potatoes in comparison to Uber. They just copy what they do anyway.
You are spot on. The key is to pressure the State to go after them. Here in NJ, I assure you the AG wasn’t aware of many of the shady practices that they engage in. The ONLY way they change anything, is when a judge compels them too. That’s why drivers are deactivated instantly when accused of substance abuse, or service animal issues. These were all parts of different lawsuits that the companies lost, and as a way to mitigate the fines, they then had to submit “correction action plans” to the State.

If your complaint is legit, and you bring it to the Attorney General of your State....I assure you they’ll look at it, as those fines go right to the State’s coffers.

Back to the original question........

If U/L REALLY wanted to "thin the herd", the answers are easy.


Not a damn thing.......why?.......because rideshare companies are looked at by the general public as hiring a bunch of foreigners who can't read or write employed because they have no skills except being able to drive, sometimes illegally. Come on John you are smarter then that, do you HONESTLY think the public cares about anything BAD U/L may do? All the general public does is laugh at the NEGATIVE or INSULTING press both U/L and their drivers get.
They’re not looked at that way. That’s EXACTLY what they do. Big difference between reality and perception. In this instance, they are one in the same.
 

rideshare2870

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Tell them that they need the $1000 Uber deductible on hand as well as the $2500 Lyft detuctible on hand as well. If you don’t have $3500 saved up then they shouldn’t be driving.
 
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dryverjohn

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This is just hypothetical forum talk. Nothing is going to happen. But, imagine if we could somehow affect their IPO offering. That more than anything in the world would get them to take notice. How do we do it? I don't know, but I think the minor issue is a good starting point for some national bad press. Send that and $1M, to Pelosi and she might even talk about it for 4 seconds.
 
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