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Here's the biggest thing Google got wrong about self-driving cars

Discussion in 'Autonomous' started by WeirdBob, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. WeirdBob

    WeirdBob Well-Known Member

    Here's the biggest thing Google got wrong about self-driving cars

    Danielle Muoio | Dec. 17, 2016, 1:55 PM


    The tech giant has been working on autonomous technology longer than anyone in the game. It first announced the project in 2009 under Sebastian Thrun, a Stanford professor lauded as the founder of the self-driving car.
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    Up until Tuesday, Google has set itself apart from competitors by pursuing a fully self-driving car built without a steering wheel or pedals. That vision was embodied by its "Koala" prototype cars that have operated without driver controls since 2014 and don't come with a driver's seat.

    But at its Waymo press event, CEO John Krafcik said the steering wheel will stay and the cars will be piloted by humans.
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    Google employees explored partial autonomy, along the lines of Tesla Autopilot, in 2012. But when the company saw a driver's attention began to drift, Google decided to pursue full autonomy at all costs, Bloomberg reported. That decision led many staff members to leave Google and pursue self-driving car projects that held more promise of making it to market.

    Now, Krafcik has made it crystal clear that Waymo is still committed to Level 5 autonomy, but integrating self-driving tech into a car with standard driver controls certainly shows an acquiesce to keep things more consumer friendly.
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  2. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Saint Louis
    Waymo is still committed to Level 5 autonomy

    Waymo moved away from their cars because they didn't want to build cars, wanted to partner with auto manufacturers, and because of current regulations. The rest of the statements in your article are pure conjecture:

    “We are a self-driving technology company. We’ve made it pretty clear we are not a car company," said John Krafcik, the CEO of Waymo, which Google officially spun out as an independent company on Tuesday.

    "We’re not in the business of making better cars, we’re in the business of making better drivers. We’re a self-driving technology company.”

    Manufacturing cars is an expensive business, requiring giant facilities and complex supply chains, in which Google has no experience. Google's new Waymo company may also believe it has a better chance of getting Detroit's automakers to use its technology if it is not seen as competing directly with them by selling its own vehicle.

    Krafcik said that Waymo won't initially focus on cars without a steering wheel or brake pedals due to the regulatory environment.

    "It’s a regulatory-driven reason," Krafcik said about keeping the driver controls. "As we’ve demonstrated with Steve’s first ride, our goal to get there without those controls. We don't think the human should be asked to monitor the self-driving system. As it turns out... it is a requirement to have those controls."

    We wouldn't want people to get the wrong idea, would we?

    Last edited: Jan 9, 2017
  3. yojimboguy

    yojimboguy Well-Known Member

    Madison, WI
    Jeez, another case of brutal over-regulation by the government. What nerve, requiring cars to have steering wheels! Next thing you know, brakes will be mandatory too!
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  4. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Saint Louis
    If the cars don't need human drivers, the government should allow the free market to decide if they want the death wheel or the extra space, safety, and price savings. Government is stupid and over-reaching. There is NO justification for "fixing" a problem that doesn't exist and costing us all more money.

    What about TNC cars? Are they really going to want to allow the human passenger to take over their vehicle?! It makes no sense.

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