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HELP ME PLEASE Accident on M4 exit near M25

soTuga

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I understand what you are saying, I always give way if I see they are coming in however last evening it wasn’t a case of him just joining my lane, he intended to join M25 where he completely turned his car you can see accident happened on his driver side door because he intended to turn from middle lane to get into M25. He said he wanted to go on M4 when he knew middle lane does go towards M4 anyway that’s where he was aggressive but once I mentioned I have a dash camera, he stood silent




We were not side by side, he was 50 meters roughly ahead of me and last moment he realised he was supposed to take M25 where he turned his car aiming at M25 but it was too late for him




He was not just getting to into my lane, he was trying to pass my lane and end up on M25 which obviously does not make any sense last minute. Plus his passenger did not even came out he was there another Uber came picked him up and left as in my case my passengers and other drivers stood by and waited for police to arrive unfortunately they never came.


This driver was saying he wanted to stay on M4 just trying to change lane but my witness told him you are lying because we saw what you were doing, you were doing.


One thing to mention, he stopped on my lane to get into M25 that’s where it is worst he wasn’t moving when he joined my lane and I was so close by then even tho I braked so hard from 65mph I came to roughly 25mph when accident occurred.




That’s exactly what I think and he wasn’t just crossing my way his stopped and blocked me since he wanted to get onto M25
I never said it was your fault.

It's what we see happening 10x a day, people working on a driving job when they shouldn't even be allowed to be driving.

One of the first things my driving instructor said to me was, "you will make mistakes, miss your turn, the best way to stay safe is to keep your speed and take the next exit". - this guy, if things happened as you described, had no clue where to go, changed lanes and slowed down to think about it.
 

Emraan

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You seem to feel a bit guilty and doubt your actions prior to the accident. Did he show his intentions before the accident to come into the lane you were travelling in or did he just suddenly appear next to you and boom, crash, wallop?

Btw as Cabbie2b noted, your description doesn't make much sense. How could he try to join m25 from a right hand lane of m4?

I tried to explain as I could and added photos for a reason to understand if my my description doesn’t make sense however some people just ignore those photos and focuses to educate me about why I should give a way to someone who decides last second to cross me over to try and join M25

I never said it was your fault.

It's what we see happening 10x a day, people working on a driving job when they shouldn't even be allowed to be driving.

One of the first things my driving instructor said to me was, "you will make mistakes, miss your turn, the best way to stay safe is to keep your speed and take the next exit". - this guy, if things happened as you described, had no clue where to go, changed lanes and slowed down to think about it.

I have been with Uber over 1.5 years now and my rating is 4.98 I drive as safe and as aware as it should be but things happen on the road we can’t control.

If it was my mistake I would have accepted but the irony is this driver was so disrespectful and he was trying to leave the scene as soon as he can not asking if anyone was injured or not. His passenger booked another Uber and left without interaction. My passengers along with 2 other witnesses stood till the end.
 

soTuga

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I tried to explain as I could and added photos for a reason to understand if my my description doesn’t make sense however some people just ignore those photos and focuses to educate me about why I should give a way to someone who decides last second to cross me over to try and join M25




I have been with Uber over 1.5 years now and my rating is 4.98 I drive as safe and as aware as it should be but things happen on the road we can’t control.

If it was my mistake I would have accepted but the irony is this driver was so disrespectful and he was trying to leave the scene as soon as he can not asking if anyone was injured or not. His passenger booked another Uber and left without interaction. My passengers along with 2 other witnesses stood till the end.
Again I never said it was your fault, but you are trying very hard to justify your experience and Uber rating, you do realize that your rating means nothing.

Accidents happen and it's part of being on the road working.

Most riders do not care for anyone else, that's why they left too, but that driver that accepted the motorway pickup, what does it say about him, safety wise..
 

Ubend R.S.

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Looks like he was trying to get into your lane obviously (his mistake) but you were trying to be a black cabby by not giving him way and he got peed off and carried on going.

I personally give other drivers way whenever i can be it a black cab or other PH. Getting some where a few minutes later doesn't make any difference. If you're going to hit a surge your going to hit it....
Hello mate. When I'm not working I let anyone in but when working its different. Us cabbies do let each other out.. Part of cabbie etiquette. When you've got a punter in and you've already let two cabs in matey in the back isn't gonna be too happy letting everyone else in. Also when you've had hours of prius' realising they are in the wrong lane wanting to turn left, it gets a bit tedious.

A real bug bare of mine is when I'm going from park lane to Edgware Rd. Almost every single time a pH (not always pH but mostly) to my right will realise he needs to get in my lane to turn left for bays water Rd. I just cannot understand why anyone following a satnav would be in the 3rd lane!
 

Cabbie2B

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I understand what you are saying, I always give way if I see they are coming in however last evening it wasn’t a case of him just joining my lane, he intended to join M25 where he completely turned his car you can see accident happened on his driver side door because he intended to turn from middle lane to get into M25. He said he wanted to go on M4 when he knew middle lane does go towards M4 anyway that’s where he was aggressive but once I mentioned I have a dash camera, he stood silent




We were not side by side, he was 50 meters roughly ahead of me and last moment he realised he was supposed to take M25 where he turned his car aiming at M25 but it was too late for him




He was not just getting to into my lane, he was trying to pass my lane and end up on M25 which obviously does not make any sense last minute. Plus his passenger did not even came out he was there another Uber came picked him up and left as in my case my passengers and other drivers stood by and waited for police to arrive unfortunately they never came.


This driver was saying he wanted to stay on M4 just trying to change lane but my witness told him you are lying because we saw what you were doing, you were doing.


One thing to mention, he stopped on my lane to get into M25 that’s where it is worst he wasn’t moving when he joined my lane and I was so close by then even tho I braked so hard from 65mph I came to roughly 25mph when accident occurred.




That’s exactly what I think and he wasn’t just crossing my way his stopped and blocked me since he wanted to get onto M25




Thanks for the information my fellow ph driver.

Let me help you to educate you too since your degree was a long time ago, I think you lost touch with reality.


I wasn’t on a slip road to join M25, if you pay attention to road next time you coming off T5 you would see that you are on already on M4 route when M4 merges M25.


As you mentioned, yes I was on M4 east (the right hand lane, next to 3rd lane of M25) and I did not change my lane to the left or right I was on my lane to the end.


The accident happened before M4 could become west and east it happened by the edge of M4 east and M25 where M25 separates from M4.


That’s where he was in the middle and jumped into right lane where I was and he stopped very last moment to get into M25 which is stupid knowing there is traffic coming up from right hand lane. Hope this helps you understand and next time when you drive on with your degree from T5 toward M4 London, u would see what I meant when you get there. Thanks for the help tho I appreciate it
Listen, there is NO M4 after T5 slip.

T5 slip is taking you on to M25 with 6 lanes.

Driving down M25 3 lanes on the left are IN DIRECTION of M4 creating M25 slip to M4west and M4east.

So all he could have done is undercut you from your left side.

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M4 WEST and M4 EAST in not name of motorway.

These are just directional markings on M25 telling where to go.


You misunderstood degree thing.
I mastered LHR as it was my home for 5-6 yrs doing just transfers.
 
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uberak

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Mate no disrespect, but you are confused there is no such thing as coming from T5 and you are on m4 no you are not on m4, you are in m25 slip road with m4.

If you gave such explanations to your insurance I’m sure not only will it complicate things but it will end in a draw 50-50 since you don’t have a camera to prove what had actually happened .


The best thing for you to say will be m25 slip road with m4 east driver decides to rejoin m25 from the left hand lane while I’m on the right hand lane and cut right infront of me while doing 65mph and gave me no chance to brake. End of the story.
 
Sorry to hear about your accident, first thing is relevant of who's fault no one was injured and being on motorway that's a saving grace. Second wasn't your fault so at least that's something you don't have to worry about and furthermore you have witnesses
 

Soljaboy

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Hi, accidents are obviously not nice but it happens, we live in london where no one wants to give some one away or even let them pass a very difficult junction, most importantly think ahead and always observe the car in front and what's happening beside you. Like others say most people make last judgement when they dnt understand what's happening on the map. I have notice this specially on the A406 going onto M11, you notice the GPS confuse some people and you notice a sudden turn in.
 

charlton paul

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Hello mate. When I'm not working I let anyone in but when working its different. Us cabbies do let each other out.. Part of cabbie etiquette. When you've got a punter in and you've already let two cabs in matey in the back isn't gonna be too happy letting everyone else in. Also when you've had hours of prius' realising they are in the wrong lane wanting to turn left, it gets a bit tedious.

A real bug bare of mine is when I'm going from park lane to Edgware Rd. Almost every single time a pH (not always pH but mostly) to my right will realise he needs to get in my lane to turn left for bays water Rd. I just cannot understand why anyone following a satnav would be in the 3rd lane!
Correct, you see daft things from professional drivers all the time, amount of bc westbound A4, 3rd lane approaching Hogarth is unbelievable.
 

Yas in

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I always stay in the left hand lane there. Moves much quicker.
I agree ubend...left Lane always...

Saying that had the odd Prius moving from middle lane to left towards Richmond, why cannot he go around roundabout again if confused...if I had not stopped, I wud be crying on here like emraan!
 

Ubend R.S.

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I agree ubend...left Lane always...

Saying that had the odd Prius moving from middle lane to left towards Richmond, why cannot he go around roundabout again if confused...if I had not stopped, I wud be crying on here like emraan!
Yeah you do need to watch who's on your right there lol. Always preempt there!
 

babasanfur

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Listen, there is NO M4 after T5 slip.

T5 slip is taking you on to M25 with 6 lanes.

Driving down M25 3 lanes on the left are IN DIRECTION of M4 creating M25 slip to M4west and M4east.

So all he could have done is undercut you from your left side.

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M4 WEST and M4 EAST in not name of motorway.

These are just directional markings on M25 telling where to go.


You misunderstood degree thing.
I mastered LHR as it was my home for 5-6 yrs doing just transfers.
I actually enjoy cruising this but at max 60mph in lane 2 watching all the fights same as t5 exit joining m25 nb when over 40mph in the bend
 
I think white prius at fault. Insurance claims dislike frontal impact. Whoever has frontal impact regardless of actions of second driver will always go against him. White prius should have been on full alert of the actions of stupid drivers ahead of him.

Sorry mate 70% own fault. I hope I am wrong
 

madhatter

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I think white prius at fault. Insurance claims dislike frontal impact. Whoever has frontal impact regardless of actions of second driver will always go against him. White prius should have been on full alert of the actions of stupid drivers ahead of him.

Sorry mate 70% own fault. I hope I am wrong
Good thing your not the assessor.

Those road markings are not advisory and there for a purpose, you cross and crash pay the price.

Black prius at fault basic SMM
 
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