That is what I have been saying. I mean look, I understand things are not like the way they were, but I always say that if something is not working for you just do something else instead of complaining and being negative about everything. All these comments by people that are so called "veterans" in the industry are really just comments by people who dont have the work ethic to sustain there own business. Any true veteran driver is still making it out there. Maybe not doing Uber 100% of the time, but diversifying your income potential is what you need to do to succeed. I'm probably going to get murdered for this comment by the usual suspects (ORT and VanStaal) but oh well. Yeah Uber has lowered fares, yes they have flooded the market, but what makes a big difference in this industry is not how many drivers are out there but how you "Hustle" your way to making that money. Like I have mentioned before, about 80% of the Uber drivers out there do not work this smart, period. The ones that do, make a living. Not saying this is income source #1, but there is a reason why people are still doing this. Whether you do it for gas and toll money for the week or just half your work its still good.[/QUOTE. I would like to know how you came up with your 80% number.