Gonna cut back my night hours. Drunks are not worth it.

ShinyAndChrome

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I've only been at this a few weeks. Here is how my yesterday went:

Morning I did 6 rides. I got tips on all 6 rides. Four X/lyft and two XL/Plus rides. X were people going to work, bringing dog to vet (he txted asking if okay), etc. The two XL were packed full of students going on day trips somewhere, they were perfectly well behaved.

Night I did 6 rides. I got no tips on any ride. Two X/lyft and four XL/Plus rides. All four XL trips were a pain in the ass. The best one paid well because it was very long, but they asked me to go to mcdonalds and mcdonalds has never moved so slowly (I fully hid my annoyance at this). They were gushing thanks about this mcdonalds trip and driving them in general. They didn't pay a tip. Of the other three XL each one had (as is so common) always a token a**hole. This is the loud mouth drunk who won't shut their pie hole. I hate these rides, they aren't necessarily mean, they are just typical obnoxious drunk. Loud, nosy, full of dutch courage. Oh and in two of these I found out they had open bottles the entire time drinking. One told her friend it was because it's an uber and you can "do anything". Another seemed annoyed I didn't have water. Another was going on about punching people out for worldstar.

Guess what I rated the people who snuck liqour into my vehicle? 5 stars. Why? Retaliatory ratings basically forces me to. Until the rating system is fixed there is essentially no reason to ever rate less than 5 stars. So, yes, Rachel who is obnoxious as hell and snuck booze in my car got 5 stars. In the real world of proper rankins they would have gotten 1 star and I'd have contacted uber to complain about the passenger.

The thing is I have a full time job, so sneaking day time hours here and there means I won't get much driving done. Drunks don't pay enough to make it worth it, though.

Also effective immediately I am lying about where I work. A surprising number of people ask. I know they find uber drivers a novelty, but now I just won't tell them the truth anymore.

I suppose my post is a normal evolution of a new uber driver toward disenfranchisement with the drunks.
 

MoreTips

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My thoughts exactly driving drunks around is a high risk for the reward unless of course surge is running high enough to make it worth while. Uber and Lyft should add a ten percent add on per passenger but of course since they don't have to deal with the riders they don't get it.

Every addition pax raises the odds of a problem occurring. Just like the video on here yesterday of the group getting in the vehicle of a black drivers vehicle. You think that punk spewing white privilege then calling the driver the N word would of had the balls to act like that alone? Lol he would of got in alone on his best behavior. PS that driver deserves a paid vacation for not riping that racist punks head off.
 

Robert finnly

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My thoughts exactly driving drunks around is a high risk for the reward unless of course surge is running high enough to make it worth while. Uber and Lyft should add a ten percent add on per passenger but of course since they don't have to deal with the riders they don't get it.

Every addition pax raises the odds of a problem occurring. Just like the video on here yesterday of the group getting in the vehicle of a black drivers vehicle. You think that punk spewing white privilege then calling the driver the N word would of had the balls to act like that alone? Lol he would of got in alone on his best behavior. PS that driver deserves a paid vacation for not riping that racist punks head off.
Link to video?
 

Robert finnly

Active Member
WOW thats just terrible. And being white and having a non racist mindstate, ive never even asked myself what it must be like for black drivers in certain areas.. them riders should be banned asap but knowing uber im sure nothing happened

Some absolutely do. You just never know which one.
Ive only given 5s because of this (which is bs btw) with 2 exceptions cause i already knew the 1 star was coming

So basically drivers are forced to give 5 stars to riders who deserves 1 stars. So right there the system is voided imo
 

ShinyAndChrome

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Disgraceful. And these people never would have been like that except they were drunk and people have this very weird familiarity with uber (some of them), like it's their buddy and they can run the show. People don't act like this nearly so much with taxis I bet.

So what happens here? Nothing. He gets a 1 star and the passenger just calls uber to abuse somebody else. And even if uber gets this vid and bans who called it, they can simply get another account. Getting into a car with a black guy and calling yourself white privilege? Animals.
 

MoreTips

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Disgraceful. And these people never would have been like that except they were drunk and people have this very weird familiarity with uber (some of them), like it's their buddy and they can run the show. People don't act like this nearly so much with taxis I bet.

So what happens here? Nothing. He gets a 1 star and the passenger just calls uber to abuse somebody else. And even if uber gets this vid and bans who called it, they can simply get another account. Getting into a car with a black guy and calling yourself white privilege? Animals.

If rates were increased to a more respectable amount people would have alittle more respect for the driver. It's so cheap they act like their doing us a favor.
 
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Cableguynoe

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Damn!!!
Hope he doesn't get deactivated if they reported him.
The video of him getting out of the car twice isn't going to help him.

Retaliatory ratings? passengers don't check their ratings like you do.... you should of rating them a 1 wtf... I've given 1 stars never got caught slipping by a pax...
I've been saying this. People assume their bad ratings are retaliation. But drivers that only give 5* still get bad ratings.
 
I've only been at this a few weeks. Here is how my yesterday went:

Morning I did 6 rides. I got tips on all 6 rides. Four X/lyft and two XL/Plus rides. X were people going to work, bringing dog to vet (he txted asking if okay), etc. The two XL were packed full of students going on day trips somewhere, they were perfectly well behaved.

Night I did 6 rides. I got no tips on any ride. Two X/lyft and four XL/Plus rides. All four XL trips were a pain in the ass. The best one paid well because it was very long, but they asked me to go to mcdonalds and mcdonalds has never moved so slowly (I fully hid my annoyance at this). They were gushing thanks about this mcdonalds trip and driving them in general. They didn't pay a tip. Of the other three XL each one had (as is so common) always a token a**hole. This is the loud mouth drunk who won't shut their pie hole. I hate these rides, they aren't necessarily mean, they are just typical obnoxious drunk. Loud, nosy, full of dutch courage. Oh and in two of these I found out they had open bottles the entire time drinking. One told her friend it was because it's an uber and you can "do anything". Another seemed annoyed I didn't have water. Another was going on about punching people out for worldstar.

Guess what I rated the people who snuck liqour into my vehicle? 5 stars. Why? Retaliatory ratings basically forces me to. Until the rating system is fixed there is essentially no reason to ever rate less than 5 stars. So, yes, Rachel who is obnoxious as hell and snuck booze in my car got 5 stars. In the real world of proper rankins they would have gotten 1 star and I'd have contacted uber to complain about the passenger.

The thing is I have a full time job, so sneaking day time hours here and there means I won't get much driving done. Drunks don't pay enough to make it worth it, though.

Also effective immediately I am lying about where I work. A surprising number of people ask. I know they find uber drivers a novelty, but now I just won't tell them the truth anymore.

I suppose my post is a normal evolution of a new uber driver toward disenfranchisement with the drunks.
You can change your rating for them to avoid the retaliating.

I really don't care because a one star for me isn't gonna do anything when I'm giving 100 to 300 rides a month. But for a PAX that uses uber once or twice a month... OUCH
 

ShinyAndChrome

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Retaliatory ratings? passengers don't check their ratings like you do.... you should of rating them a 1 wtf... I've given 1 stars never got caught slipping by a pax...
Hey if it makes you feel better this rather stuck in my craw. A 21 year old entitled girl saying it's uber she can do whatever was bugging me, so I contacted Uber, they reminded me that since she had cancelled the ride (too dumb to let it finish normally), she couldn't rate me anyway so no need to worry about retaliation and they would be reaching out to her about it.

Until uber/lyft are able to unequivocally identify riders in the way they can drivers, though, they can't actually ban people from the platform. The most they can do is make it inconvenient for riders.

You can change your rating for them to avoid the retaliating.

I really don't care because a one star for me isn't gonna do anything when I'm giving 100 to 300 rides a month. But for a PAX that uses uber once or twice a month... OUCH
I'm still not there. I have a very high rating now but a couple of butthurt riders could still wreck it because I don't have enough rides.
 

Telsa34

Well-Known Member
I've only been at this a few weeks. Here is how my yesterday went:

Morning I did 6 rides. I got tips on all 6 rides. Four X/lyft and two XL/Plus rides. X were people going to work, bringing dog to vet (he txted asking if okay), etc. The two XL were packed full of students going on day trips somewhere, they were perfectly well behaved.

Night I did 6 rides. I got no tips on any ride. Two X/lyft and four XL/Plus rides. All four XL trips were a pain in the ass. The best one paid well because it was very long, but they asked me to go to mcdonalds and mcdonalds has never moved so slowly (I fully hid my annoyance at this). They were gushing thanks about this mcdonalds trip and driving them in general. They didn't pay a tip. Of the other three XL each one had (as is so common) always a token a**hole. This is the loud mouth drunk who won't shut their pie hole. I hate these rides, they aren't necessarily mean, they are just typical obnoxious drunk. Loud, nosy, full of dutch courage. Oh and in two of these I found out they had open bottles the entire time drinking. One told her friend it was because it's an uber and you can "do anything". Another seemed annoyed I didn't have water. Another was going on about punching people out for worldstar.

Guess what I rated the people who snuck liqour into my vehicle? 5 stars. Why? Retaliatory ratings basically forces me to. Until the rating system is fixed there is essentially no reason to ever rate less than 5 stars. So, yes, Rachel who is obnoxious as hell and snuck booze in my car got 5 stars. In the real world of proper rankins they would have gotten 1 star and I'd have contacted uber to complain about the passenger.

The thing is I have a full time job, so sneaking day time hours here and there means I won't get much driving done. Drunks don't pay enough to make it worth it, though.

Also effective immediately I am lying about where I work. A surprising number of people ask. I know they find uber drivers a novelty, but now I just won't tell them the truth anymore.

I suppose my post is a normal evolution of a new uber driver toward disenfranchisement with the drunks.


I've been driving now for a year-and-a-half and picked up two thousand passengers I don't deal with drunks and I don't deal with druggies and I also don't deal with rude passengers it's your car.

We all get to choose where we want to drive and who we picked up yes there's money to be made at the beaches and be a shofer for the rich kids from bar to bar just to watch them puke in your car on your car or damage your car to me it's not worth it just like waiting in an airport in queue, Drive smart be safe.
 
He should have canceled the instant they got in saying "white privilege". The first sign of trouble. Instead he sat there seething and then expressed a quiet anger which boiled over.
Agree. He did fine until he wanted to make them see his point. He made it when he canceled and kicked them to the curb. Everything after that was beta. Uncontrolled bETA waves. It's unfortunate, he had total control of the situation up until then. You can't make people listen to you, why waste the energy on these racists. He gave them satisfaction when he got out of the car, just saying... don't give these pax stories to tell.
 
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Nick781

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Hey if it makes you feel better this rather stuck in my craw. A 21 year old entitled girl saying it's uber she can do whatever was bugging me, so I contacted Uber, they reminded me that since she had cancelled the ride (too dumb to let it finish normally), she couldn't rate me anyway so no need to worry about retaliation and they would be reaching out to her about it.

Until uber/lyft are able to unequivocally identify riders in the way they can drivers, though, they can't actually ban people from the platform. The most they can do is make it inconvenient for riders.

I'm still not there. I have a very high rating now but a couple of butthurt riders could still wreck it because I don't have enough rides.

No that is not true. People on this forum ran tests and showed that if the pax cancels you still get rated.
 

istravisthewizardofoz

Active Member
My normal advice would be to get them out before the trip started. This guy had to nice of a car to be driving Uber. They may have retaliated by causing damage to his car. He should have driven to a well lit area with people around before throwing them out. He was very lucky.
 

ShinyAndChrome

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No that is not true. People on this forum ran tests and showed that if the pax cancels you still get rated.
I knew if *I* cancelled they could rate me, i wasn't sure if they could if i was rated. Oh well, she hasn't 1 starred me yet and she deserved to know I wasn't impressed with her crap.

My normal advice would be to get them out before the trip started. This guy had to nice of a car to be driving Uber. They may have retaliated by causing damage to his car. He should have driven to a well lit area with people around before throwing them out. He was very lucky.
that's why he has internal dash cam but it isn't pointed where it should be.

If I didn't have to get my youngest on the bus each morning before work I'd just do a couple hours before work many mornings. I bet 99% of uber problems are from drunks.
 
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