Force Uber to get rid of upfront pricing thus increase rate

Rideshare123

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1: If most drivers take the longest route to make them lose money.

2: Drivers tell the riders to update their destination so that upfront price will not be in effect. Doing this save rider money and drivers might get tips.

The main goal is to force Uber to get rid of Upfront pricing. If Uber wants to become profitable, then they must increase rates.
 
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SorryBluetoothOnly

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There are a couple glaring flaws with your plan:
  1. Your 1st and 2nd points are incongruous. If you long haul the passenger AND tell them to update their destination, then there is a chance that the pax will end up being charged MORE. Telling pax to update their destination to save money is a bad idea if you're a long hauler.
  2. Uber is NEVER getting rid of up front pricing. It's is their license to print money.
  3. Do you realize how high Uber driver turnover is? There are way too many newbie drivers on the road who you will never reach. And there are way too many soccer mom and grandma drivers who have been driving for years but you will never reach. No matter how hard you try, the number of drivers who will take advantage of up front pricing will always be DWARVED by those who don't know any better...and Uber will always take in the profit. For every driver like you, there are 20 more who are accepting pool and following Uber's suggested route like a good little ant.
PS: Did we really need a 3rd thread on the same topic? Couldn't you just post this idea where everyone else is talking about it?
 
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Pinapple Man

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There are a couple glaring flaws with your plan:
  1. Your 1st and 2nd points are incongruous. If you long haul the passenger AND tell them to update their destination, then there is a chance that the pax will end up being charged MORE. Telling pax to update their destination to save money is a bad idea if you're a long hauler.
  2. Uber is NEVER getting rid of up front pricing. It's is their license to print money.
  3. Do you realize how high Uber driver turnover is? There are way too many newbie drivers on the road who you will never reach. And there are way too many soccer mom and grandma drivers who have been driving for years but you will never reach. No matter how hard you try, the number of drivers who will take advantage of up front pricing will always be DWARVED by those who don't know any better...and Uber will always take in the profit.
PS: Did we really need a 3rd thread on the same topic? Couldn't you just post this idea where everyone else is talking about it?
YOU BETTER REMEMBER FUBER IS LISTENING IN AT WILL.
 

Rideshare123

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There are a couple glaring flaws with your plan:
  1. Your 1st and 2nd points are incongruous. If you long haul the passenger AND tell them to update their destination, then there is a chance that the pax will end up being charged MORE. Telling pax to update their destination to save money is a bad idea if you're a long hauler.
  2. Uber is NEVER getting rid of up front pricing. It's is their license to print money.
  3. Do you realize how high Uber driver turnover is? There are way too many newbie drivers on the road who you will never reach. And there are way too many soccer mom and grandma drivers who have been driving for years but you will never reach. No matter how hard you try, the number of drivers who will take advantage of up front pricing will always be DWARVED by those who don't know any better...and Uber will always take in the profit. For every driver like you, there are 20 more who are accepting pool and following Uber's suggested route like a good little ant.
PS: Did we really need a 3rd thread on the same topic? Couldn't you just post this idea where everyone else is talking about it?
Ffff your assumption. Why you always act like a diccccckhead pro?
 

PrestonT

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1: If most drivers take the longest route to make them lose money.

But Uber can and will adjust your fare to the shortest distance and time under the guise of "the rider reported that you took a less than optimal route."

And the more drivers catch on to longhauling the longhauler, the more they will run trip reviews and get "their" money.
 

Rideshare123

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But Uber can and will adjust your fare to the shortest distance and time under the guise of "the rider reported that you took a less than optimal route."

And the more drivers catch on to longhauling the longhauler, the more they will run trip reviews and get "their" money.
This is exactly the point. With the above options, is called do or die together. I dont profit, you will lose money methods.
 

SorryBluetoothOnly

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Ffff your assumption. Why you always act like a diccccckhead pro?

You bring up valid points. I never thought about it like that.

Why don't you debate the topic rather than resorting to trash talk? It's a discussion board. If you don't know how to react to people who disagree with you, then this probably isn't the right place for you.

But Uber can and will adjust your fare to the shortest distance and time under the guise of "the rider reported that you took a less than optimal route."

And the more drivers catch on to longhauling the longhauler, the more they will run trip reviews and get "their" money.

They haven't been doing this for a while. At least for me. I haven't received an "inefficient route" trip adjustment in a couple months...and I used to get them on the regular. The policy change seems to have roughly coincided with their new sky-high up front fares.
 

Rideshare123

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You bring up valid points. I never thought about it like that.

Why don't you debate the topic rather than resorting to trash talk? It's a discussion board. If you don't know how to react to people who disagree with you, then this probably isn't the right place for you.



They haven't been doing this for a while. At least for me. I haven't received an "inefficient route" trip adjustment in a couple months...and I used to get them on the regular. The policy change seems to have roughly coincided with their new sky-high up front fares.
You are the one who cannot debte on anything because you act like a pro who like to judge and make conclusions. So ffff your judgement and improper conclusions.
 

Booberx

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As a rider when i go out drinking I'll be putting in a different destination say halfway and give directions to where i really want to go.

So why not tell the paxholes to do this as well...we'll still make the same.
 

d0n

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You talk about corrupting new drivers into old drivers, not everyone is slick enough to pull those routes with pax in the back seat, remember when they used to complain about routes and take your money? If they stop that 100% while sharing the routes, you just organized the driver and uber to scam the rider.
 

Rideshare123

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You bring up valid points. I never thought about it like that.

Why don't you debate the topic rather than resorting to trash talk? It's a discussion board. If you don't know how to react to people who disagree with you, then this probably isn't the right place for you.



They haven't been doing this for a while. At least for me. I haven't received an "inefficient route" trip adjustment in a couple months...and I used to get them on the regular. The policy change seems to have roughly coincided with their new sky-high up front fares.
You talk about corrupting new drivers into old drivers, not everyone is slick enough to pull those routes with pax in the back seat, remember when they used to complain about routes and take your money? If they stop that 100% while sharing the routes, you just organized the driver and uber to scam the rider.
Thats partially true. I would love to be an honest person and provide good service to riders. However, when I do that, Uber is cheating us and the riders. Since the riders are already paying fares higher than the .90/15 fare, its better to put those money into our pockets than into Uber's pocket. On the other hand, most of the time I will take the honest route with nice riders and ask how much Uber is charging them. Depend on the conversation, I sometimes tell them to change their destination to an address couple houses away from their true destination. After doing that, I verified many many many times Uber is charging them .90/15 fares. Riders saved money, most tip me and Uber scam did not work.

In conclusion: I really hate to see Uber is ripping people off, especially myself. Thus, in the name of God, I do my best to STOP them. You dont have to agree witb me, but this is only my suggestion.
 

d0n

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Thats partially true. I would love to be an honest person and provide good service to riders. However, when I do that, Uber is cheating us and the riders. Since the riders are already paying fares higher than the .90/15 fare, its better to put those money into our pockets than into Uber's pocket. On the other hand, most of the time I will take the honest route with nice riders and ask how much Uber is charging them. Depend on the conversation, I sometimes tell them to change their destination to an address couple houses away from their true destination. After doing that, I verified many many many times Uber is charging them .90/15 fares. Riders saved money, most tip me and Uber scam did not work.

In conclusion: I really hate to see Uber is ripping people off, especially myself. Thus, in the name of God, I do my best to STOP them. You dont have to agree witb me, but this is only my suggestion.

That's not where it ends, eventually the pricing will go up so much that they will take their upfront on top of your longest route.

The current lawsuit will cure that problem when it's settled, until then, play the game.

Because Papa Kalanick needs to inflate before he sells.
 

DeplorableDonald

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They haven't been doing this for a while. At least for me. I haven't received an "inefficient route" trip adjustment in a couple months...and I used to get them on the regular. The policy change seems to have roughly coincided with their new sky-high up front fares.

I think also since the rider's getting charged same.price no matter how we go, they're less likely to whine about inefficient route.

Rohit doesn't know what's a good way to go.

Sadly lately even going VERY long routes which are same time, I still haven't been able to lose money for Uber. I have to basically drive them out of the way to Cleveland and back to make a dent in Uber's cut.
 

SorryBluetoothOnly

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I think also since the rider's getting charged same.price no matter how we go, they're less likely to whine about inefficient route.

Of course this is true. But up front pricing has been in effect for over a year, and passengers still complained about routes taken regularly, and Uber would try to pass the cost of refunds on to us via adjusted fares. What I'm saying is that has COMPLETELY disappeared. Do you think pax have stopped complaining? Of course not. It indicates an Uber policy change to simply eat the cost of whatever refund they give as a result. The jacked up front fares we've been seeing lately makes up for that cost many many times over.
 

Rideshare123

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I think also since the rider's getting charged same.price no matter how we go, they're less likely to whine about inefficient route.

Rohit doesn't know what's a good way to go.

Sadly lately even going VERY long routes which are same time, I still haven't been able to lose money for Uber. I have to basically drive them out of the way to Cleveland and back to make a dent in Uber's cut.
Uber cannot make more than 15% on average from me. I dint care about rider complaints, I just drove however I think is efficient. Simple rues: My car= my rule. Dont like it? Get the fffff out. On the other hand, nice riders deserve honst and good customer service and Uber scams still wont be effective because I change destination myself by changing to couple houses away. Nice riders = happy riders. Rude riders = ripping off riders, by Uber.
 
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