Federal $10k Emergency Grant for Uber & Lyft Drivers

Shmo313

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For less than what they were making staying home?
- if employers are forced to operate ‘leaner’ and succeed then they might not rehire as many
- If employers raise wages to encourage the unemployed to get off the couch (pay them more than the government is paying them to sit on their couch) we will create inflation — couple ‘wage pressure’ with Trillions of newly printed dollars we have just successfully created a ‘perfect storm’ of hyper-inflation.

Remember this: What happens in 4 months? The president election officially begins. With that the economy always slows due to uncertainty (employers hold off non-essential hiring until afterwards) .... this ensures a ‘slow recovery’ to give the Democratic Party an advantage. Brace for Obama policies 2.0 with trillions of dollars going to the ‘political connected’ with ‘Green energy’ deals (Solyndra 2.0).

No such animal as ‘coincidence’ in Politics and this Bill’s last minute provisions by Pelosi and ‘gang’ is to help them regain power!!!!
Another angle: Politicians need problems to solve to gain power — it is in their interest to create a problem to solve next fall.
People arent going to be making more sitting on their couch After 4 months. They will only receive their normal unemployment which is usually only half of what they make. The 600 dollars extra is only for 4 months.
 

BillyTheKidd

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People arent going to be making more sitting on their couch After 4 months. They will only receive their normal unemployment which is usually only half of what they make. The 600 dollars extra is only for 4 months.
Your posts on this are not correct. See below. I posted this before somewhere on this forum.

"Typically, workers may be entitled to up to 26 weeks of UI benefits under State law. CARES provides an additional 13 weeks of UI benefits as Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation. This generally is available for those individuals who are able to work, available to work, and are actively seeking work. Qualifying workers will also be eligible to receive Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation amounts during the additional 13 week period. These benefits will be paid through the State and federally funded."


With 100% certainty, people WILL be sitting on their couch and be getting free health insurance.

This is going to prolong the economic downturn. This is what happens when we have morons in Congress (from both parties - just so I am covered for @scamp )
 
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Shmo313

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You are incorrect. See below. I posted this before somewhere on this forum.

"Typically, workers may be entitled to up to 26 weeks of UI benefits under State law. CARES provides an additional 13 weeks of UI benefits as Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation. This generally is available for those individuals who are able to work, available to work, and are actively seeking work. Qualifying workers will also be eligible to receive Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation amounts during the additional 13 week period. These benefits will be paid through the State and federally funded."


With 100% certainty, people WILL be sitting on their couch and be getting free health insurance.

This is going to prolong the economic downturn. This is what happens when we have morons in Congress (from both parties - just so I am covered for @scamp )
I'm not incorrect. You are misunderstanding what you are reading. The 600 dollars extra that people will be receiving is only for 4 months. I'm not going to go back and forth with this. Yes, unemployment is extended an extra 13 weeks where needed, but the fact still remains that the 600 extra is only for 4 months. This is not to say that at some point they will extend that also depending on what happens with covid, but as of right now, the 600 extra is a 4 month thing.
 

scamp

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The 600 dollars extra for unemployment and unemployment for self employed is only for 4 months. Unless they come out with an extension on the current bill, or another bill is passed, the current cares act in regards to unemployment is only for 4 months. So people not wanting to return to work because they are getting all this money just isnt going to happen. For 4 months they will probably be making more than if they worked, but once the 4 months is up, if things are open and somewhat back to normal, people will return to work.
In March, Trump and the ignorant, science deniers believed the COVID 19 threat would only last a few weeks and disappear like a miracle with warmer weather. They ignored NIH's warning this 1st wave would likely last into July before dissipating. That warning is why Dem Senators fought for UI additional $600 thru 7/31 to cover the REALISTIC time period.

It is already very hot in southern Florida and Louisiana and the virus continues to spread there at alarming rate. The NIH are looking hard at their data and also South Korea's reopenings to determine how the virus really reacts.
 

Sammy4u

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So when can one apply for this $10k grant? I am also curious if money should only be used towards business related expenses or can be used for personal expenses also
 

Shmo313

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I'm not incorrect. You are misunderstanding what you are reading. The 600 dollars extra that people will be receiving is only for 4 months. I'm not going to go back and forth with this. Yes, unemployment is extended an extra 13 weeks where needed, but the fact still remains that the 600 extra is only for 4 months. This is not to say that at some point they will extend that also depending on what happens with covid, but as of right now, the 600 extra is a 4 month thing.
The 600 extra ends on july 31st. Its active from March 27th when the bill was signed thru july 31st. 4 months.
 

scamp

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I'm not incorrect. You are misunderstanding what you are reading. The 600 dollars extra that people will be receiving is only for 4 months. I'm not going to go back and forth with this. Yes, unemployment is extended an extra 13 weeks where needed, but the fact still remains that the 600 extra is only for 4 months. This is not to say that at some point they will extend that also depending on what happens with covid, but as of right now, the 600 extra is a 4 month thing.
Correct.

Some states only offer 13 weeks UI so like in 2009 the feds stepped in and covered the extension period costs.

The added $600 is only thru July 31st.
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Forbes tackles some EIDL questions in this article.

 
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BillyTheKidd

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I'm not incorrect. You are misunderstanding what you are reading. The 600 dollars extra that people will be receiving is only for 4 months. I'm not going to go back and forth with this. Yes, unemployment is extended an extra 13 weeks where needed, but the fact still remains that the 600 extra is only for 4 months. This is not to say that at some point they will extend that also depending on what happens with covid, but as of right now, the 600 extra is a 4 month thing.
I don't care if you go back and forth on this. I am trying to provide information. The information I provided is in countless articles/websites etc.

Do you acknowledge that the state of MA allows for 26 weeks of unemployment? What do you think the word additional in this sentence means?

CARES provides an additional 13 weeks of UI benefits as Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation.
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Correct.

Some states only offer 13 weeks UI so like in 2009 the feds stepped in and covered the extension period costs.

The added $600 is only thru July 31st.
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Forbes tackles some EIDL questions in this article.

Where does it state that the $600 only goes through July 31st? What I posted is widely available in numerous sources.

If I am wrong I will retract and correct it. I genuinely don't want to post incorrect information.
 

Shmo313

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I don't care if you go back and forth on this. I am trying to provide information. The information I provided is in countless articles/websites etc.

Do you acknowledge that the state of MA allows for 26 weeks of unemployment? What do you think the word additional in this sentence means?

CARES provides an additional 13 weeks of UI benefits as Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation.
A simple google search will show you the truth. Simply google "length of extra 600 unemployment." Yes, the cares act allows for 13 additional weeks. This is different then the 600 extra being provided for 4 months. The 600 is being provided from March 27th thru july 31st. It has nothing to do with the 39 weeks of unemployment being allowed.
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Once the 4 months are up, you can still continue to collect up to 39 weeks, but after july 31st it goes back to the regular amount.
 

scamp

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I don't care if you go back and forth on this. I am trying to provide information. The information I provided is in countless articles/websites etc.

Do you acknowledge that the state of MA allows for 26 weeks of unemployment? What do you think the word additional in this sentence means?

CARES provides an additional 13 weeks of UI benefits as Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation.
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Where does it state that the $600 only goes through July 31st? What I posted is widely available in numerous sources.

If I am wrong I will retract and correct it. I genuinely don't want to post incorrect information.
Billy, your sources are conflating the extension of benefits period with the added $600. They are two separate parts of the FPUC as the US Department of Labor website cites:

"Under the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC) program, eligible individuals who are collecting certain UI benefits, including regular unemployment compensation, will receive an additional $600 in federal benefits per week for weeks of unemployment ending on or before July 31, 2020.

Additionally
, the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (PEUC) program allows those who have exhausted benefits under regular unemployment compensation or other programs to receive up to 13 weeks of additional benefits. States must offer flexibility in meeting PEUC eligibility requirements related to “actively seeking work” if an applicant’s ability to do so is impacted by COVID-19. "


The 7/31 came from NIH's guidance on when the 1st wave of COVID 19 should dissipate.
 

Shmo313

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Billy, your sources are conflating the extension of benefits period with the added $600. They are two separate parts of the FPUC as the US Department of Labor website cites:

"Under the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC) program, eligible individuals who are collecting certain UI benefits, including regular unemployment compensation, will receive an additional $600 in federal benefits per week for weeks of unemployment ending on or before July 31, 2020.

Additionally
, the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (PEUC) program allows those who have exhausted benefits under regular unemployment compensation or other programs to receive up to 13 weeks of additional benefits. States must offer flexibility in meeting PEUC eligibility requirements related to “actively seeking work” if an applicant’s ability to do so is impacted by COVID-19. "


The 7/31 came from NIH's guidance on when the 1st wave of COVID 19 should dissipate.
Thank you for providing links. I'm not good at linking stuff here, lol. I also don't like doing extra work when a simple google search will get someone the correct info. Thank you for providing this info.
 

scamp

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Thank you for providing links. I'm not good at linking stuff here, lol. I also don't like doing extra work when a simple google search will get someone the correct info. Thank you for providing this info.
You're welcome.

I'm trying as much as possible to post links because there's a lot of crap info out there.
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So when can one apply for this $10k grant? I am also curious if money should only be used towards business related expenses or can be used for personal expenses also
Read the Forbes article I posted as it covers your question.
 

BillyTheKidd

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A simple google search will show you the truth. Simply google "length of extra 600 unemployment." Yes, the cares act allows for 13 additional weeks. This is different then the 600 extra being provided for 4 months. The 600 is being provided from March 27th thru july 31st. It has nothing to do with the 39 weeks of unemployment being allowed.
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Once the 4 months are up, you can still continue to collect up to 39 weeks, but after july 31st it goes back to the regular amount.
I just read 6 articles on this. Some mention that the extra 600 ends on July 31st. Some don't. The original link I posted is thorough and I believe my understanding is accurate. Seems like we aren't going to agree but this should be read. I am posting the link again.

The part in bold italics below is what leads me to believe what I posted is correct.


Pandemic Unemployment Assistance – Up to 39 Weeks of COVID-19 Related Unemployment Compensation Benefits
If an individual is unavailable to work due to COVID-19 related reasons (e.g., COVID-19 diagnosis, exposure, symptoms, or self-quarantine), they may be eligible for up to 39 weeks of unemployment compensation even though they are not available for work.

To be eligible for this benefit, individuals must self-certify that they meet one of the criteria for unavailabity to work for COVID-19 related reasons. Benefits are available under this program from January 27, 2020 until December 31, 2020, so long as the unemployment, partial unemployment, or inability to work caused by COVID-19 continues and does not exceed 39 weeks.

The benefit available under the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance is the weekly benefit amount authorized under the unemployment compensation law of the State where the covered individual was employed, plus the amount of Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation ($600).
 

Shmo313

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Simply read the bill itself and you will get the correct info. Its fact, plain and simple, that the extra 600 runs from March 27th thru july 31st.
 

divo183

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How about ya just go read the Bill and stop speculating!!
Then again that wouldn’t be fun..

SEC. 2104. EMERGENCY INCREASE IN UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSA- TION BENEFITS.
(a) FEDERAL-STATE AGREEMENTS.—Any State which desires to do so may enter into and participate in an agreement under this section with the Secretary of Labor (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Secretary’’). Any State which is a party to an agreement under this section may, upon providing 30 days’ written notice to the Secretary, terminate such agreement.
(b) PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT.—
(1) FEDERAL PANDEMIC UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.—
Any agreement under this section shall provide that the State agency of the State will make payments of regular compensa- tion to individuals in amounts and to the extent that they would be determined if the State law of the State were applied, with respect to any week for which the individual is (dis- regarding this section) otherwise entitled under the State law to receive regular compensation, as if such State law had been modified in a manner such that the amount of regular com- pensation (including dependents’ allowances) payable for any week shall be equal to—
(A) the amount determined under the State law (before the application of this paragraph), plus
(B) an additional amount of $600 (in this section referred to as ‘‘Federal Pandemic Unemployment Com- pensation’’).
(2) ALLOWABLE METHODS OF PAYMENT.—Any Federal Pan-
demic Unemployment Compensation provided for in accordance with paragraph (1) shall be payable either—
(A) as an amount which is paid at the same time and in the same manner as any regular compensation otherwise payable for the week involved; or
(B) at the option of the State, by payments which are made separately from, but on the same weekly basis as, any regular compensation otherwise payable.
(c) NONREDUCTION RULE.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—An agreement under this section shall
not apply (or shall cease to apply) with respect to a State upon a determination by the Secretary that the method gov- erning the computation of regular compensation under the State

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law of that State has been modified in a manner such that the number of weeks (the maximum benefit entitlement), or the average weekly benefit amount, of regular compensation which will be payable during the period of the agreement (determined disregarding any Federal Pandemic Unemploy- ment Compensation) will be less than the number of weeks, or the average weekly benefit amount, of the average weekly benefit amount of regular compensation which would otherwise have been payable during such period under the State law, as in effect on January 1, 2020.
(2) MAXIMUM BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT.—In paragraph (1), the term ‘‘maximum benefit entitlement’’ means the amount of regular unemployment compensation payable to an individual with respect to the individual’s benefit year.
(d) PAYMENTS TO STATES.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—
(A) FULL REIMBURSEMENT.—There shall be paid to each
State which has entered into an agreement under this section an amount equal to 100 percent of—
(i) the total amount of Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation paid to individuals by the State pursuant to such agreement; and
(ii) any additional administrative expenses incurred by the State by reason of such agreement (as determined by the Secretary).
(B) TERMS OF PAYMENTS.—Sums payable to any State
by reason of such State’s having an agreement under this section shall be payable, either in advance or by way of reimbursement (as determined by the Secretary), in such amounts as the Secretary estimates the State will be enti- tled to receive under this section for each calendar month, reduced or increased, as the case may be, by any amount by which the Secretary finds that his estimates for any prior calendar month were greater or less than the amounts which should have been paid to the State. Such estimates may be made on the basis of such statistical, sampling, or other method as may be agreed upon by the Secretary and the State agency of the State involved.
(2) CERTIFICATIONS.—The Secretary shall from time to time certify to the Secretary of the Treasury for payment to each State the sums payable to such State under this section.
(3) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated from the gen- eral fund of the Treasury, without fiscal year limitation, such sums as may be necessary for purposes of this subsection. (e) APPLICABILITY.—An agreement entered into under this sec-
tion shall apply to weeks of unemployment—
(1) beginning after the date on which such agreement is
entered into; and
(2) ending on or before July 31, 2020.
(f) FRAUD AND OVERPAYMENTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—If an individual knowingly has made,
or caused to be made by another, a false statement or represen- tation of a material fact, or knowingly has failed, or caused another to fail, to disclose a material fact, and as a result

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of such false statement or representation or of such nondisclo- sure such individual has received an amount of Federal Pan- demic Unemployment Compensation to which such individual was not entitled, such individual—
(A) shall be ineligible for further Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation in accordance with the provi- sions of the applicable State unemployment compensation law relating to fraud in connection with a claim for unemployment compensation; and
(B) shall be subject to prosecution under section 1001 of title 18, United States Code.
(2) REPAYMENT.—In the case of individuals who have
received amounts of Federal Pandemic Unemployment Com- pensation to which they were not entitled, the State shall require such individuals to repay the amounts of such Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation to the State agency, except that the State agency may waive such repayment if it determines that—
(A) the payment of such Federal Pandemic Unemploy- ment Compensation was without fault on the part of any such individual; and
(B) such repayment would be contrary to equity and good conscience.
(3) RECOVERY BY STATE AGENCY.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The State agency shall recover the
amount to be repaid, or any part thereof, by deductions from any Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation payable to such individual or from any unemployment com- pensation payable to such individual under any State or Federal unemployment compensation law administered by the State agency or under any other State or Federal law administered by the State agency which provides for the payment of any assistance or allowance with respect to any week of unemployment, during the 3-year period after the date such individuals received the payment of the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation to which they were not entitled, in accordance with the same procedures as apply to the recovery of overpayments of regular unemployment benefits paid by the State.
(B) OPPORTUNITY FOR HEARING.—No repayment shall be required, and no deduction shall be made, until a deter- mination has been made, notice thereof and an opportunity for a fair hearing has been given to the individual, and the determination has become final.
(4) REVIEW.—Any determination by a State agency under
this section shall be subject to review in the same manner and to the same extent as determinations under the State unemployment compensation law, and only in that manner and to that extent.
(g) APPLICATION TO OTHER UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.—Each agreement under this section shall include provisions to provide that the purposes of the preceding provisions of this section shall be applied with respect to unemployment benefits described in subsection (i)(2) to the same extent and in the same manner as if those benefits were regular compensation.
(h) DISREGARD OF ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR PURPOSES OF MEDICAID AND CHIP.—The monthly equivalent of any Federal

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pandemic unemployment compensation paid to an individual under this section shall be disregarded when determining income for any purpose under the programs established under titles XIX and title XXI of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396 et seq., 1397aa et seq.) .
(i) DEFINITIONS.—For purposes of this section—
(1) the terms ‘‘compensation’’, ‘‘regular compensation’’, ‘‘ben-
efit year’’, ‘‘State’’, ‘‘State agency’’, ‘‘State law’’, and ‘‘week’’ have the respective meanings given such terms under section 205 of the Federal-State Extended Unemployment Compensa- tion Act of 1970 (26 U.S.C. 3304 note); and
(2) any reference to unemployment benefits described in this paragraph shall be considered to refer to—
(A) extended compensation (as defined by section 205 of the Federal-State Extended Unemployment Compensa- tion Act of 1970);
(B) regular compensation (as defined by section 85(b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) provided under any program administered by a State under an agreement with the Secretary;
(C) pandemic unemployment assistance under section 2102; and
(D) pandemic emergency unemployment compensation under section 2107
 

scamp

Well-Known Member
How about ya just go read the Bill and stop speculating!!
Then again that wouldn’t be fun..
1. Are you a trained lawyer? I don't know of any trained lawyers on this site. Ignorance and failure to understand statues can result in too many real life consequences to rely on our layman's interpretations.

2. How the federal government interprets the statues in this bill is all that currently matters. That's why I posted a link to the Department of Labor's interpretation of the CARES ACT and its guidelines sent to our states.
 

E30addixt

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Lots of laws have nuance that require trained lawyers to interpret. Within the shades of gray, there is also some black and white that doesn't require a trained lawyer. Example:

(2) ending on or before July 31, 2020.
 

BillyTheKidd

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Simply read the bill itself and you will get the correct info. Its fact, plain and simple, that the extra 600 runs from March 27th thru july 31st.
I just read the relevant parts of the bill.
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How about ya just go read the Bill and stop speculating!!
Then again that wouldn’t be fun..

SEC. 2104. EMERGENCY INCREASE IN UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSA- TION BENEFITS.
(a) FEDERAL-STATE AGREEMENTS.—Any State which desires to do so may enter into and participate in an agreement under this section with the Secretary of Labor (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Secretary’’). Any State which is a party to an agreement under this section may, upon providing 30 days’ written notice to the Secretary, terminate such agreement.
(b) PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT.—
(1) FEDERAL PANDEMIC UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.—
Any agreement under this section shall provide that the State agency of the State will make payments of regular compensa- tion to individuals in amounts and to the extent that they would be determined if the State law of the State were applied, with respect to any week for which the individual is (dis- regarding this section) otherwise entitled under the State law to receive regular compensation, as if such State law had been modified in a manner such that the amount of regular com- pensation (including dependents’ allowances) payable for any week shall be equal to—
(A) the amount determined under the State law (before the application of this paragraph), plus
(B) an additional amount of $600 (in this section referred to as ‘‘Federal Pandemic Unemployment Com- pensation’’).
(2) ALLOWABLE METHODS OF PAYMENT.—Any Federal Pan-
demic Unemployment Compensation provided for in accordance with paragraph (1) shall be payable either—
(A) as an amount which is paid at the same time and in the same manner as any regular compensation otherwise payable for the week involved; or
(B) at the option of the State, by payments which are made separately from, but on the same weekly basis as, any regular compensation otherwise payable.
(c) NONREDUCTION RULE.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—An agreement under this section shall
not apply (or shall cease to apply) with respect to a State upon a determination by the Secretary that the method gov- erning the computation of regular compensation under the State

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law of that State has been modified in a manner such that the number of weeks (the maximum benefit entitlement), or the average weekly benefit amount, of regular compensation which will be payable during the period of the agreement (determined disregarding any Federal Pandemic Unemploy- ment Compensation) will be less than the number of weeks, or the average weekly benefit amount, of the average weekly benefit amount of regular compensation which would otherwise have been payable during such period under the State law, as in effect on January 1, 2020.
(2) MAXIMUM BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT.—In paragraph (1), the term ‘‘maximum benefit entitlement’’ means the amount of regular unemployment compensation payable to an individual with respect to the individual’s benefit year.
(d) PAYMENTS TO STATES.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—
(A) FULL REIMBURSEMENT.—There shall be paid to each
State which has entered into an agreement under this section an amount equal to 100 percent of—
(i) the total amount of Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation paid to individuals by the State pursuant to such agreement; and
(ii) any additional administrative expenses incurred by the State by reason of such agreement (as determined by the Secretary).
(B) TERMS OF PAYMENTS.—Sums payable to any State
by reason of such State’s having an agreement under this section shall be payable, either in advance or by way of reimbursement (as determined by the Secretary), in such amounts as the Secretary estimates the State will be enti- tled to receive under this section for each calendar month, reduced or increased, as the case may be, by any amount by which the Secretary finds that his estimates for any prior calendar month were greater or less than the amounts which should have been paid to the State. Such estimates may be made on the basis of such statistical, sampling, or other method as may be agreed upon by the Secretary and the State agency of the State involved.
(2) CERTIFICATIONS.—The Secretary shall from time to time certify to the Secretary of the Treasury for payment to each State the sums payable to such State under this section.
(3) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated from the gen- eral fund of the Treasury, without fiscal year limitation, such sums as may be necessary for purposes of this subsection. (e) APPLICABILITY.—An agreement entered into under this sec-
tion shall apply to weeks of unemployment—
(1) beginning after the date on which such agreement is
entered into; and
(2) ending on or before July 31, 2020.
(f) FRAUD AND OVERPAYMENTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—If an individual knowingly has made,
or caused to be made by another, a false statement or represen- tation of a material fact, or knowingly has failed, or caused another to fail, to disclose a material fact, and as a result

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of such false statement or representation or of such nondisclo- sure such individual has received an amount of Federal Pan- demic Unemployment Compensation to which such individual was not entitled, such individual—
(A) shall be ineligible for further Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation in accordance with the provi- sions of the applicable State unemployment compensation law relating to fraud in connection with a claim for unemployment compensation; and
(B) shall be subject to prosecution under section 1001 of title 18, United States Code.
(2) REPAYMENT.—In the case of individuals who have
received amounts of Federal Pandemic Unemployment Com- pensation to which they were not entitled, the State shall require such individuals to repay the amounts of such Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation to the State agency, except that the State agency may waive such repayment if it determines that—
(A) the payment of such Federal Pandemic Unemploy- ment Compensation was without fault on the part of any such individual; and
(B) such repayment would be contrary to equity and good conscience.
(3) RECOVERY BY STATE AGENCY.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The State agency shall recover the
amount to be repaid, or any part thereof, by deductions from any Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation payable to such individual or from any unemployment com- pensation payable to such individual under any State or Federal unemployment compensation law administered by the State agency or under any other State or Federal law administered by the State agency which provides for the payment of any assistance or allowance with respect to any week of unemployment, during the 3-year period after the date such individuals received the payment of the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation to which they were not entitled, in accordance with the same procedures as apply to the recovery of overpayments of regular unemployment benefits paid by the State.
(B) OPPORTUNITY FOR HEARING.—No repayment shall be required, and no deduction shall be made, until a deter- mination has been made, notice thereof and an opportunity for a fair hearing has been given to the individual, and the determination has become final.
(4) REVIEW.—Any determination by a State agency under
this section shall be subject to review in the same manner and to the same extent as determinations under the State unemployment compensation law, and only in that manner and to that extent.
(g) APPLICATION TO OTHER UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.—Each agreement under this section shall include provisions to provide that the purposes of the preceding provisions of this section shall be applied with respect to unemployment benefits described in subsection (i)(2) to the same extent and in the same manner as if those benefits were regular compensation.
(h) DISREGARD OF ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR PURPOSES OF MEDICAID AND CHIP.—The monthly equivalent of any Federal

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pandemic unemployment compensation paid to an individual under this section shall be disregarded when determining income for any purpose under the programs established under titles XIX and title XXI of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396 et seq., 1397aa et seq.) .
(i) DEFINITIONS.—For purposes of this section—
(1) the terms ‘‘compensation’’, ‘‘regular compensation’’, ‘‘ben-
efit year’’, ‘‘State’’, ‘‘State agency’’, ‘‘State law’’, and ‘‘week’’ have the respective meanings given such terms under section 205 of the Federal-State Extended Unemployment Compensa- tion Act of 1970 (26 U.S.C. 3304 note); and
(2) any reference to unemployment benefits described in this paragraph shall be considered to refer to—
(A) extended compensation (as defined by section 205 of the Federal-State Extended Unemployment Compensa- tion Act of 1970);
(B) regular compensation (as defined by section 85(b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) provided under any program administered by a State under an agreement with the Secretary;
(C) pandemic unemployment assistance under section 2102; and
(D) pandemic emergency unemployment compensation under section 2107
Thanks for posting Divo!
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Lots of laws have nuance that require trained lawyers to interpret. Within the shades of gray, there is also some black and white that doesn't require a trained lawyer. Example:

(2) ending on or before July 31, 2020.
Which is why I posted the link to the National Law Review site which was written by 2 lawyers with expertise in labor and employment law. My reading of that (link I posted) and the bill that Divo posted lead me to believe what I posted is correct. Anyone can read it and should come to same conclusion.

I will take what is written by trained lawyers with expertise in this area versus articles found with a google search.

Some people are not reading the entirety of what is being offered. They are seeing the first part which is ending on July 31st and stopping there - That is the first part to this. The second part is item 2 below.

1 + 2 = 3.

1. Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation - $600 Additional Weekly Benefit
2. Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation – Up to 13 More Weeks of Unemployment Compensation
3. Pandemic Unemployment Assistance – Up to 39 Weeks of COVID-19 Related Unemployment Compensation Benefits
 
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Shmo313

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Lol, you are something else. Keep believing what you want to believe and the rest of us will believe the facts. I've never seen someone fight so hard to be wrong about something. On july 31st, If there's been no extension, you will see how it is and hopefully then you will be able to finally admit it's ok to make a mistake and admit you were wrong about something.
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The federal pandemic unemployment compensations runs from march 27th thru March 31st. The pandemic emergency unemployment compensations allows 13 extra weeks of unemployment. Pandemic unemployment assistance is the combination of both of these along with other things like allowing self employed to apply. It's really not that difficult to understand.
 

scamp

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Which is why I posted the link to the National Law Review site which was written by 2 lawyers with expertise in labor and employment law. My reading of that (link I posted) and the bill that Divo posted lead me to believe what I posted is correct. Anyone can read it and should come to same conclusion.
Billy, the US Department of Labor doesn't agree with your conclusion.

DOL sent the CARES ACT federal implementation guidelines to states on 4/2/20. Their UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE PROGRAM LETTER NO. 14-20, clearly states the UI extended period (Section 2102) and the $600 Emergency Increase (Section 2104) are separate provisions under the CARES Act and they have different end dates.

a. Summary of Provisions.The CARES Act authorizes the following provisions.

i. Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) (Section 2102). This program provides up to 39 weeks of benefits and is available starting with weeks of unemployment beginning on or after January 27, 2020 and ending on or before December 31, 2020. This program covers individuals who are self-employed, seeking part-time employment,or whom otherwise would not qualify for regular UC or EBunder state or federal law or Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (PEUC) under section 2107. Coverage also includes individuals who have exhausted all rights to regular UC or EB under state or federal law,or PEUC.Operationally, this program will be administered similar to the Disaster Unemployment Assistance (DUA )program. This program is available in the United States,American Samoa, Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, the District of Columbia, Federated States of Micronesia, Guam, Marshall Islands, Puerto Rico, the Republic of Palau, and the U.S. Virgin Islands, provided the state/territory signs an agreement with the Department.Individuals must demonstrate that they are otherwise able to work and available for work within themeaning ofapplicable state law, except that they are unemployed,partially unemployed, or unable or unavailable to work because of the COVID-19 related reasons specified insection2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act.

iii. Emergency increase in unemployment compensation benefits, called Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC)(Section 2104). This program provides an additional $600 per week to individuals who are collecting regular UC (including Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees (UCFE) and Unemployment Compensation for Ex-Servicemembers (UCX)), PEUC, PUA, EB, STC, Trade Readjustment Allowances (TRA), Disaster Unemployment Assistance (DUA), and payments under the Self Employment Assistance (SEA) program. This is available for weeks of unemployment beginning after the date on which the state enters into an agreement with the Department and ending with weeks of unemployment ending on or before July 31, 2020. This program is available in the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands, provided the state/territory signs an agreement with the Department. Among the requirements of this program is a non-reduction rule, which prohibits states from changing the computation method governing regular UC law in a way that results in the reduction of average weekly benefit amounts orthe number of weeks of benefits payable (i.e., maximum benefit entitlement).


I really don't understand how much clearer the Labor department can make it for you.
 
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