Ex taxi driver's assessment of Uber

Modogg

New Member
I drove cab for 3 years in CC, I enjoyed it and first, but quickly grew tired of it. The constant traffic, tickets, PPA issues, rude customers, drunk customers, all wore on me. Not a day would go by without me questioning myself and my poor decisions in life, that let up to me becoming a cab driver. I recently decided to go back to school to finish my degree. As you probably know, with a taxi lease you pay that amount weekly regardless of whether you take days off or not. Because medallion owners can always find someone who will. This forced me to leave taxi has i require 2-3 off for school, and i wasn't upset about it. I figure i would focus on my studies and drive for uber. Heres what i learned.

So far i have driven for a week, mornings in cnj and evenings in philly. And have concluded that uber is nothing more than exploitation. Every time i dropped off someone i would check my earnings and everytime i would feel like a used prostitute. The normal rates are horrible, they are well under 50% less than what taxi rates are. With taxi, cc to ap is a flat $29 plus tip. With taxi i would say 95% customers tip, it seems the exact opposite with uber. I dropped a guy to the airport, a big shot executive type, for a mesley 12 bucks, no tip. I drove friday and saturday night in philly and got maybe one surge for 1.5x. I left before 2. I drove someone today 22 miles for $20! what a joke.
 

jaien39

Member
I drove cab for 3 years in CC, I enjoyed it and first, but quickly grew tired of it. The constant traffic, tickets, PPA issues, rude customers, drunk customers, all wore on me. Not a day would go by without me questioning myself and my poor decisions in life, that let up to me becoming a cab driver. I recently decided to go back to school to finish my degree. As you probably know, with a taxi lease you pay that amount weekly regardless of whether you take days off or not. Because medallion owners can always find someone who will. This forced me to leave taxi has i require 2-3 off for school, and i wasn't upset about it. I figure i would focus on my studies and drive for uber. Heres what i learned.

So far i have driven for a week, mornings in cnj and evenings in philly. And have concluded that uber is nothing more than exploitation. Every time i dropped off someone i would check my earnings and everytime i would feel like a used prostitute. The normal rates are horrible, they are well under 50% less than what taxi rates are. With taxi, cc to ap is a flat $29 plus tip. With taxi i would say 95% customers tip, it seems the exact opposite with uber. I dropped a guy to the airport, a big shot executive type, for a mesley 12 bucks, no tip. I drove friday and saturday night in philly and got maybe one surge for 1.5x. I left before 2. I drove someone today 22 miles for $20! what a joke.
You feel like a used prostitute.... dont insult the prostitutes they have much higher standards and Rates.
 

disp350

Well-Known Member
So in other words, you didn't do any research or fact finding to find out exactly what you were getting into. Not to berate you, but I spent at least 2 weeks doing as much research as possible, between Ubers web site, the video's and then getting the real story from forums like this about what its like in the real world. I am sorry to say that much of what I read here is correct as you are learning. But I am a little more fortunate as I dont drive full time and just drive for extra income, so I am not as dependent. But the key thing was I knew exactly what I was getting into before I jumped in. And it has worked out for me so far (fingers crossed). I just hope you can get it to work for yo as well.
 
Anyone who drives for these pathetic non surge rates obviously can't do basic math to figure out it's costing you money to drive. I guess they're doing it for fun. Stay offline and wait for it to surge. You can see surges without being online now. While you wait, go on the passenger app to help create the surge. It's really not rocket science. Places all over that have uber do it but for some reason Philly drivers can't figure it out. As long as there are morons are doing rides for shitty rates, uber will not raise them. They'll keep lowering the rates as long as drivers keep accepting the ping. On ubers end, as a business, it's smart. They're like any other business, in it t make as much money as possible. The drivers are allowing them to do it so thank the driver that will drive 2 miles in center city for 30 minutes and be okay with the $5.25 fare. The same drivers that are picking up uberPools. Uber is simply exploiting the morons that can't do the math
 

Papa Sarducci

Well-Known Member
Unbelievable its rush hour and one of the biggest convention philly has seen and no surge. Wth is going on
Why would it surge? Surge is based on demand, right? No demand at rush hour, more drivers on the road than riders needing rides. That is how it works according to Uber.
 

IERide

Well-Known Member
As a former taxi cab driver I kinda like the fact that with Uber I am guaranteed payment - no worry about dirtbags running out without paying. I also kinda like that I'm not picking up some (total) random stranger off the street with no record of who they are. At least if an Uber pax hijacks me there is some record of it.
 
Unbelievable its rush hour and one of the biggest convention philly has seen and no surge. Wth is going on
You don't see it surge bc all the drivers stay online so the supply is more than the demand. If drivers would stay offline until the demand is more than the supply there would be plenty of surges. Too difficult for drivers to figure out apparently
 

MiddleClassedOut

Well-Known Member
They would rather have $9/hr then wait 20 minutes for 15 dollars. Ping some Ubers, look at the drivers, tell me if those people can get other jobs.

A 2x surge isn't just twice as profitable, it's actually probably around 2.3x as profitable, because you have to take into consideration getting to another passenger. Oh well, got mine in the rain today.
 

nuggetnut

Well-Known Member
Just looked at the west chester map and there has to be 15/20 drivers online now in the rain.. Are these guys idiots or what?
 

bobby747

Well-Known Member
nugget they are so stupid. if a brinks truck fell open with cash that read NO REWARD they return the 20 mil in untrackable bills...they destroy a good thing and love doing $1.10 a mile as per $3.30
 

nuggetnut

Well-Known Member
It's just friggin unbelievable. Last night same thing. I think the surge was over by 210 am. It got up to maybe 2.1x. That sucks for wc. For the few times I worked that area I made most of my money between 1 and 3,non stop surge.
 

bobby747

Well-Known Member
Ya nugget I drove thier a few times from c.c and I had some giant scores 4.0 etc. These guys barely can drive let alone think about this
 

nuggetnut

Well-Known Member
The only thing that saved this weekend for me were tips. Tips were off the charts. I was getting them at least every other ride. I tracked down one pax in a bar who left his phone in my car. He was $40 grateful. Did well over 100 in tips which is very unusual, but hey I'll take it.
 

Peanut hello

Active Member
nugget they are so stupid. if a brinks truck fell open with cash that read NO REWARD they return the 20 mil in untrackable bills...they destroy a good thing and love doing $1.10 a mile as per $3.30
Thats how it works, if you make $3.30 in 10 minutes, that is $19.80/hour.
Why should I wait for the surge? I use some common sense.
 

agtg

Well-Known Member
Thats how it works, if you make $3.30 in 10 minutes, that is $19.80/hour.
Why should I wait for the surge? I use some common sense.
That kind of math doesn't work out in most markets, and everyone knows this except people who are brand new. But, let's for instance play along with your scenario: You expect people to believe they can run their car ragged for six $3.30 trips every hour? That's 32 trips in an 8 hour shift. That's 256 of these trips every week. That's over 1,000 trips in a single month. And if we consider 2.3 pax per ride, that's over 2,300 passengers passing through your car every month. A single month of this and your front end would need to be replaced and the handles on your doors would be falling off and you would be out a $12,000 dollar asset for four weeks at $18 bucks an hour.
 

Peanut hello

Active Member
That kind of math doesn't work out in most markets, and everyone knows this except people who are brand new. But, let's for instance play along with your scenario: You expect people to believe they can run their car ragged for six $3.30 trips every hour? That's 32 trips in an 8 hour shift. That's 256 of these trips every week. That's over 1,000 trips in a single month. And if we consider 2.3 pax per ride, that's over 2,300 passengers passing through your car every month. A single month of this and your front end would need to be replaced and the handles on your doors would be falling off and you would be out a $12,000 dollar asset for four weeks at $18 bucks an hour.
You are telling the truth, but the Math I couldnt figure it out:that some folks claim they make $2000.00/week or more.
At the same time most fares are less than $5.00, and the run can take between 15 minutes to 40 minutes.
this is the math I dont understand.
 
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