Edmonton, AB, CAN

AltaClip

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Hoping more Edmonton drivers are lurking on this forum.
Edmonton currently is new market fro UBER (since Dec'14) with relatively high initial pricing.

UberX $2.75 base + $0.30/min + $0.95/km (about $1.52/mile for those in US)
Minimum $2.75 and cancellations $5

UBER is still fighting to establish itself in Edmonton and most Canadian cities.
The taxi monopoly/oligopoly is very established and the Municipal governments while sometimes supportive of the UBER concept (admitting the need for better ride share options/service/etc) are being careful to not kill their golden goose with the taxi lic too quickly.

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Dec. 18, 2014 - UBER starts up in Edmonton. Former Mayor Bill Smith is ceremonial first ride. City #5 in Canada I think.

Jan. 20. 2015 the city's executive committee asked administration to request the company to cease operations until a collaborative agreement could be made between them. Uber continued ops and no fines/sting operations, etc. have happened to my knowledge.

Jan 30, 2015 Uber offering FREE rides. No restrictions or conditions.

Feb. 5, 2015 the city filed an injunction against the app-based company asking Uber to cease operations - citing safety concerns and protecting the taxi industry as well. Uber continued ops and no fines/sting operations, etc. have happened to my knowledge.

About the same time Uber started an online petition... https://action.uber.org/edmonton/ which currently sits at over 12000 signatures. The petition -- addressed to the mayor and council -- claims Uber helps to reduce the number of DUI fatalities.

Feb 10, 2015 - FREE rides over. Resume charging normal full fares.

Feb 27, 2015 - first time guarantees offered. $25/hr from midnight-3am. Conditions: min 1 ride per hour, >80% acceptance.

Upcoming
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March 3, 2015 - The city filed an injunction against the company in the Court of Queens Bench Feb. 5 demanding they cease operations. On Friday, it was announced that the case will begin to be heard in justice chambers March 3.

Along with the injunction, the city has also filed a suit against Uber for operating without a licence.
 

Actionjax

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Good luck with things. With the loss of jobs in the oil patch you think things would loosen up a bit. Think your Mayor there is a bit of a stooge. I have dealt with the Alberta government before. They were a corrupt bunch some of them with their fingers into local businesses like restaurants and bars. I'm sure they have fingers into the Taxi system, Uber is not caving to them and that's the issue.
 

AltaClip

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I am new to guarantees but have read lots to get ready for when they come.
Well last night Uber Edmonton had the option for midnight-3 am guaranteed $25 / hr with min 1 ride/hr and >80% acceptance.
It was light on details.

I tried it but karma got me in the end.
I opted in and had already been out for 3-4 hours before midnight when it came around. It was a good night and I was a little tired. My plan was to get 3 shorter trips (easy to do on Fri/Sat night either in downtown or Whyte Ave) and head home to my burb staying online. If a ping came in I was ready to run out and complete it. Plan worked very well except the 3 trips didn't get completed until 2am+. Bad luck on my part.

I was 5 mins from home at about 2:25 am when I got a ping from St. Albert Casino. I accepted because I feared the >80% cancellation condition. Well it turned into a 33 km (21 mile) trip to the far end of town. Ended up with $45+ fare and $10 tip so not too bad but added over hour to my night and I ended up about the same $ from mid-3am with guar vs. actual fares. I was scared because 1 of the 2 guys had that too drunk sway too him that said I might puke b4 I get home!
 

Actionjax

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I am new to guarantees but have read lots to get ready for when they come.
Well last night Uber Edmonton had the option for midnight-3 am guaranteed $25 / hr with min 1 ride/hr and >80% acceptance.
It was light on details.

I tried it but karma got me in the end.
I opted in and had already been out for 3-4 hours before midnight when it came around. It was a good night and I was a little tired. My plan was to get 3 shorter trips (easy to do on Fri/Sat night either in downtown or Whyte Ave) and head home to my burb staying online. If a ping came in I was ready to run out and complted it. Plan worked very well except the 3 trips didn't get completed until 2am+. Bad luck on my part.

I was 5 mins from home at about 2:25 am when I got a ping from St. Albert Casino. I accepted because I feared the >80% cancellation condition. Well it turned into a 33 km (21 mile) trip to the far end of town. Ended up with $45+ fare and $10 tip so not too bad but added over hour to my night and I ended up about the same $ from mid-3am with guar vs. actual fares. I was scared because 1 of the 2 guys had that too drunk sway too him that said I might puke b4 I get home!
Playing the minimums is not the best way to make money unless you have high cost of running. I have never received one yet and blow way over them especially during those times. But that's Toronto and not Edmonton. I would say don't play the game yet till you baseline what can be done in a legit manner the Uber way. Then see what you net out to. Then just take the guarantee and estimate your cost to be lower. See what you net out at.

I found the key is Pick up - Drive - Drop off - Stop dead and wait. That's the best way to do it. Move if you have waited for 20 min and you are in a known dead area.

Just like fishing you don't drive all over the lake looking for fish, you wait in a hot area for them to come to you. Over time you will find your best spots to make money.

Edmonton for the most part is wide open areas and people bounce from one side of the city to the other as the party moves. So that means more distance drives. (At least that's what I remember in 2007 - 2008)

Don't forget to place Uber "U" stickers on Taxi bumpers. They love that there. :smiles:
 

AltaClip

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Edmonton drivers post your experiences so far with Uber.
What patterns have you noticed with surge?
 

AltaClip

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Uber says it has rejected at least eight currently licensed taxi drivers in Edmonton because they could not pass Uber’s own, more stringent background checks.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Uber+describes+driver+standards+Edmonton+court+filing/10855721/story.html

Uber & City Edmonton meeting March 3.

Noteworthy in the article is ...
Schafer’s affidavit spells out for the first time what requirements the company has for prospective drivers.

They need to be 21 and have at least one year of driving experience. Drivers must have no criminal record, no record of being charged for a serious offence such as a sexual assault where the charges were later withdrawn, and not be currently accused in a criminal case before the courts.

Drivers will also be rejected if they have an impaired driving conviction or other major infraction such as speeding in a school zone or speeding more than 30 kilometres per hour over the limit, or if they have two minor infractions in the past three years.
 

derek309

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Hi
I have been looking to connect with other uber drivers in edmonton.
I have been driving for about 5 weeks and enjoy it very much. Part timer for some extra cash.
So my qiestion is. Do you know of anyone thst has been fined and did Uber take care of their tickets?. Ok that was 2 questions lol
 

AltaClip

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I had the pleasure of driving the Uber lawyers to the airport after their brief court appearance in chambers yesterday.
Judge rescheduled to March 26 when they might have more time to address the claims/issues.
They were just in the general crowded chambers mixed in with the other motions of the day.

I even got lucky and got a return trip from the airport (Edmt airport is good 20 mins south of city).

http://globalnews.ca/news/1860765/city-of-edmonton-and-uber-appearing-in-court-over-dispute/
 

AltaClip

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Hi Derek. I started about the same time as you. Very part time gig for me but enjoy meeting people and will continue to drive until rates are cut.
I don't have contact with many other drivers in Edmt so any help in spreading the word is appreciated.

I'm not personally aware of anyone being fined BUT the Uber lawyers did mention to me March 3 while driving them to the airport that 3 drivers have been ticketed.
I forgot to ask if Uber covered them but that was the first I've heard about anything.


Hi
I have been looking to connect with other uber drivers in edmonton.
I have been driving for about 5 weeks and enjoy it very much. Part timer for some extra cash.
So my qiestion is. Do you know of anyone thst has been fined and did Uber take care of their tickets?. Ok that was 2 questions lol
 

Actionjax

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I had the pleasure of driving the Uber lawyers to the airport after their brief court appearance in chambers yesterday.
Judge rescheduled to March 26 when they might have more time to address the claims/issues.
They were just in the general crowded chambers mixed in with the other motions of the day.

I even got lucky and got a return trip from the airport (Edmt airport is good 20 mins south of city).

http://globalnews.ca/news/1860765/city-of-edmonton-and-uber-appearing-in-court-over-dispute/
I met Chris Schafer back in October when I picked him up at Uber's headquarters. I will say I got in 30 seconds the companies direction based on that conversation. Take no prisoners comes to mind.

Although I told Ian Black at the Uber party he got his ass handed to him first time he was put in front of council. And if he uses the same strategy here in Toronto it may not come away as clean as Edmonton. And that was messy.
 

derek309

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Hi Derek. I started about the same time as you. Very part time gig for me but enjoy meeting people and will continue to drive until rates are cut.
I don't have contact with many other drivers in Edmt so any help in spreading the word is appreciated.

I'm not personally aware of anyone being fined BUT the Uber lawyers did mention to me March 3 while driving them to the airport that 3 drivers have been ticketed.
I forgot to ask if Uber covered them but that was the first I've heard about anything.
I dont know any other drivers here. I am part of a facebook group for Uber drivers as well but they are mostly americans.
I gave a ride downtown this morning and a cop was following me for the longest time. I was a little worried there but did not get stopped.
I normally work the west end close to home
 

derek309

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I am unable to sign in to the partner app or website 2 pm Thursday mar 5, when I check the rider app there is only one car showing in the whole city. it looks like it is happening to everyone. what is going on?
 

Actionjax

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I am unable to sign in to the partner app or website 2 pm Thursday mar 5, when I check the rider app there is only one car showing in the whole city. it looks like it is happening to everyone. what is going on?
We got a text the app is having issues. I can't log into the dashboard.
 

AltaClip

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Rec'd a text from UBER at 2:40 that they were having problems, then again at 2:45 pm that it "appears to be working". I wasn't online this aft so didn't notice.
Daytime has really dried up lately. I was online in NW Edmt for about 3 hours 10-1 and no hits despite not many (sometimes only 1) in a 5-7 min radius. Continued working from home but I thought odd.

Texts were from odd #'s not used before but started with "UBER ... "
 

AltaClip

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March 6, 2015 - Uber XL now available in Edmonton.
Not sure how this compares to other areas but our Uber X rates are still at the higher inital rates.


base $5 + $35/min and $1.55/km (2.48/mile)
Min $6
 

AltaClip

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I have no clue how/why someone would drive after rate cuts. I debate driving even at our initial higher rates most weekends.
My #1 concern going forward is progress on the hybrid insurance issue in Canada.
 

EdmontonUber

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Hey guys. I'm also an Uber driver in Edmonton.

Actually, it might be better to say I WAS a driver. I haven't driven anybody since the company started charging the customers again. I spoke with my insurance broker when Uber first came to town, and he was very clear that I was essentially driving without insurance by being a vehicle for hire. I figured because passengers weren't paying, that was enough of a loophole that I would still be covered. But now, for me, its just not worth the risk.

Like you guys, I've already got a job, and just want to Uber part-time. But I'll have to wait until the insurance issue is addressed.
 

AltaClip

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Heh Derek. How's it going?
Just a comment on the cop comment...

I had a discussion with an Uber Mgr recently and he pointed out to me that the police are not going to pull you over for just being an Uber driver. If a sting or other enforcement is undertaken it will be by bylaw enforcement and not police.

This Mgr seemed to think the police all love Uber. While I'm not 100% sure I agree with that I do believe that as long as you're not breaking any laws the cops are not about to pull you over and ask if you're an Uber driver in Edmonton.

On a side note I did have a brief interaction with a cop last night while sitting with my hazard lights on Gretzky waiting for post Oiler game pickup to arrive. He gave a couple of us Uber drivers 5+ mins parked waiting time and was coming to tell me to "move along" when my pax jumped in. The cop smiled and shook his head when the pax started chanting various "uber-isms".

I dont know any other drivers here. I am part of a facebook group for Uber drivers as well but they are mostly americans.
I gave a ride downtown this morning and a cop was following me for the longest time. I was a little worried there but did not get stopped.
I normally work the west end close to home
 
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