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Earning in Niagra

Zee786

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Anyone driving in Niagra. Can you tell me what is the earning potential. I used to drive in Toronto but I am moving there now
 

Wolfmaan

New Member
Depends on your hours. If you work 40+hrs you'll make about $600.00/wk depending on if you know the area, know where to sit, etc.
 

Wolfmaan

New Member
First - be sure to talk to your insurance company!! If you don't have rideshare insurance through Intact or Aviva, and there is a collision, you won't be covered. Past that it depends on the time of day you drive. In the evenings from 8pm to 3am - downtown St. Catharines has lots of rides. Pay attention to when there are big events. In february 2017 there was a big curling event and we were busy like crazy. If you see a black 4-door Jeep, be sure to say hi!
 

uberuser1000

New Member
First - be sure to talk to your insurance company!! If you don't have rideshare insurance through Intact or Aviva, and there is a collision, you won't be covered. Past that it depends on the time of day you drive. In the evenings from 8pm to 3am - downtown St. Catharines has lots of rides. Pay attention to when there are big events. In february 2017 there was a big curling event and we were busy like crazy. If you see a black 4-door Jeep, be sure to say hi!

thanks, I'll keep my eye out for it!! :p
When you started for Uber, did your insurance go up by much?
I was planning on heading out in an hour or so to try my luck, would you recommend downtown during the day, or somewhere like Brock?
 

Vavvav

Active Member
I honestly think $600 is overinflated. I was one of the first drivers on the road in Niagara two years ago and my best week ever was $650 and that includes $300 on NYE. I made $400 the last two weeks with the app on 50 hours. I start out in Niagara Falls but I have had Friday nights where I can barely scrape together $20 so I quit. Saturday night is the only night you can make the mythical $20 an hour and the odd Moose and Goose and Mansion House event on Wed nights (sometimes more then $20 an hour but often it's only $15 to $18 an hour and then you have to pay gas. Once the students go home in April the bar scene dies out in St. Catharines and the summer is nothing but busy streets in the Falls and short $3 rides and you do the math. Unless you are willing to work 60 to 80 hours a week forget $600 a week. Most of your easy money will be made in Saturday nights. Downtown St. Catharines and Thorold where the students live is our best bet. Wolfman, $600 is not an average week. 8 to 3am on a Friday, Saturday and maybe Wednesday but M, T and Thursday is a write off. Plus many Friday's in Downtown St. Kitts are a bust. I would believe you Wolfman if you screenshot 10 weeks straight above $500 in earnings but I know that's not the case. $15 an hour is not the average in ST.Kitts, it's more like $6 to $8 after gas.
 

Wolfmaan

New Member
It's okay if you think it's over rated. You don't have to believe me, or make as much as I do. Here is a photo of some of my recent earnings. This is pretty much normal when you work it.

Just in case you believe it's not fairly normal earnings, here is about 20 -40hrs a week driving for me.

thanks, I'll keep my eye out for it!! :p
When you started for Uber, did your insurance go up by much?
It went up by $1,200/yr or about $100.00 per month.
 

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Vavvav

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I cam pos t my earnings too and I will but I suspect you are putting in more then 40 hours some weeks and closer to 50 hours or more especially if you are cracking $500 to $600. Again, like me, it's easy to have a $200 week because demand is so low and if you balance it out it's still pathetic for the time involved. Duyng the day is a write off. Also, this is the busy time in Niagara, been doing this for two years. When the students go home in April the bar scene dries up. I will give and suppose if you are driving 8 to 3 am every night you might post these numbers based on the hours (40) you mentioned but by the time you subtract 20 percent for gas it's still minimum wage. The hours involve intrigue me not the total revenue. Watch out, come April this all changes. Compared to Toronto, Niagara is a bust for the new driver. Way too many drivers now, no denying that!

I am still curious about hours. I figure it's $10 for every hour the trip app is on plus I figure I need to drive 150KM for every $1 made but now it's probably closer to 250KM. So a full tank is $50 and that's 500KM and $200 minus $50 is $150 per tank of gas. The week's you make $500 you need to subtract $125 in gas. Still minimum wage in Niagara anyway you cut it. Granted are earnings are similar but you have had more $500 plus weeks, the difference being that you are probably driving more night hours then me. There is no secret here or magic spot in Niagara for the new guy, be prepared to take a drastic cut from Toronto.

Post your hours Wolfman, anything $500 plus is 40 hours plus.
 

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Wolfmaan

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Driving for uber is a business. If you treat it as such you will be successful. This means working hard, knowing the right days and times to get customers, and working for their needs.

Like working at a Call centre, teaching in a classroom, or driving tractor trailer. Working is optional. If you don't like the hours or what happens, move on to another career. It's as simple as that.
 

uberuser1000

New Member
It's okay if you think it's over rated. You don't have to believe me, or make as much as I do. Here is a photo of some of my recent earnings. This is pretty much normal when you work it.

Just in case you believe it's not fairly normal earnings, here is about 20 -40hrs a week driving for me.



It went up by $1,200/yr or about $100.00 per month.

whoa, that's a much steeper increase than I was expecting. that would nearly double my current premiums. Maybe I'll wait to start driving until I move to Toronto so it's more worthwhile
 

Vavvav

Active Member
Wolf, it's not really a business, all your success depends on the app. This isn't speedy cab where you can leave your number for next time. Your earnings aren't much different then mine, there is no secret formula. In Niagara you have to put in 40 plus hours a week to scrape by. $15 to $20 an hour is a Saturday, Sunday to Friday forget it. Uber had drinking the Koolaid. The Uber dream has sailed. Mark my words, I will eat crow if I am wrong but once the students go home in April St. Catharines becomes a ghost town.

Sorry, type, meant to say Uber has us drinking the Koolaid. I honestly think it might be worth driving to Toronto for the day but the $50 in gas you burn getting there kind of negates the effort. In Niagara it's almost impossible to make a go of this fulltime after gas. Last I busted my tail and made $6500 for the year. At my current rate I am near $15000 a year because I have been putting in 40 plus hours a week but $15 to $20K working 40 hours a week is not good use of one's time.

I am covered through insurance with Uber, didn't inquire with my insurance company, there haven't been any consistent guidelines yet, it's a grey area and $100 extra a month month doesn't justify being a driver.

Welcome to the.new reality working in Niagara. It has become a Saturday destination and that's it. I will make more this Saturday then did Monday to Friday driving half the hours. Ridiculous! Don't let anyone convince out otherwise. When the students return home.and the bar scene fades in St. Catharines the same thing will happen to everyone.

Not even 12, made more in 2 hours on a Saturday in Niagara then 20 hours Monday to Friday.
 

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Vavvav

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If so, I would jump on that. Out it this way, when I had a false claim made against me Uber had me great in touch with Direct Insurance. I said there was no accident and Uber backed down, but I initially believed the Customer who was trying to scam the system.

$300 for the week. 30 hours. Made 2/3 of it on Saturday night. $200 for Saturday. Included in that was a $100 trip to Mississauga with no return trip back but a quick stop in Burlington for a fare. Drove 440KM to make the last $220. You do the math Wolf. 2KM for every dollar, 500KM tank, used to be 1.5KM for evey $1, now closer to 3KM for every dollar. $250 revenue per tank, $50 to fill up. $200 profit per tank. 30 hours online to make $300. Say 600KM driven to make that $300 this week and 30 hours. Minus $55 gas. $240ish over 30 hours is $8 an hour. That doesn't factor in wear and tear, maintenance, insurance. We are drinking the Uber Koolade. Anyone telling you they are raking in the dough in Niagara is misleading you. It's less then minimum wage. By the time you get new tires, headlights, oil changes, washes and repairs to brakes you are losing long term.
 

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atomck

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I'm new at this, retired successful businessman and enjoying the job. I have only been at this 6 weeks. I have had a few good weeks (over $600 gross) for the 25 hours I drove. My goal is to regularly gross $500 every week. There are guys out there in Niagara that claim to pull over $1,000 weekly. All you have to do is take the number of kilometers it takes at a per km rate to figure out that you'd have to drive half way to the moon at 600 miles an hour to do that consistently. Just do the math, the per km pay, and the average speed hours divided by miles and you come up with an unattainable figure to make a real paycheck. Pull out fuel, insurance costs and depreciation and this better not be your only income. Remember something else. Every driver you bring in for your $200, likely will take that away from you over 1 month of competing against you. Seems somehow there are more drivers than riders. There are other ways to use UBER to be a real benefit financially. Think about that and you might find there is a good living to be made.
 

Vavvav

Active Member
My goal is $400 a week, but find I need to have the app on for 40 hours a week, your per hour and per km are terrible. Anything over $400 you would have to put serious km and serious time and get lucky with Toronto trips from the Falls, say 90 hours a week and that's not feasible.

Also, when Brock goes home I think demand will lower.

Thanks new guy for pointing out it's a tough slog. Too many dead hours. Anyway claiming $1000 a week is probably factoring in.good days like NYE and St. Patrick's Day and some student events like Frosh week. Come summer, that ends.

One fellow told me he made $1200 to $1400 a week last summer driving Niagara Falls but that he would get casino to Toronto trips. He also let me in on a dirty little secret that he was working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day.

New Guy if you know anyone from Niagara invite them to this group!
 

Vavvav

Active Member
Atomck, you find $500 a week is possible with only 25 hours? You must be getting surges and only driving at night. Driving during the day is a total bust in Niagara.
 

atomck

Member
Vavvav, I don't drive at night, maybe I should but I like my early morning work. App on at 5:AM and off at 10:AM. I have had two bad weeks in a row. $400, and then $285. The $285 took 30 hours, but this week I took
Monday off and I am at $200 total as of 10:30 this morning when I finished. $100 a day and I will work tomorrow Friday and Saturday, and Sunday if I am a bit short. This is no bull, it is happening and I am happy. I do this because I am actually enjoying it. I won't work for free, but whatever this pays works for me.
 

Vavvav

Active Member
Do you drive Brock? What do you think will happen when the students go home? So you drive 5 hours a day, 7 days a week? Is 5am to 7am really that busy? 35 hours a week? $700 is your average?

Did your $200 in 2 days include a long trip? How many trips do you complete per week? $685 over two weeks is $10 an hour. Occasionally we have stretches where we get $15 to $20 an hour, but then we revert back to the mean, $10 an hour. What is your it best week and how many hours? Most number of trips per week?
 

atomck

Member
Hi Vavav, I seldom get trips to Brock. One this week. My day usually starts when I am on my way to Niagara Falls from where I live in Port Colborne. Seldom do I get close to the Falls before I get pinged to St. Catharines. That is usually my first trip, always just after 5:AM. I stay in St. Catharines accepting short stuff until about 7. Then back to my regulars in the Falls. I know who and when and I will park in their driveways so the ping comes my way. That usually lasts until 9:30. Then I do whatever. St. Catharines, Niagara on the lake and an occasional Welland or Fort Erie. I never turn down a ping. I have half a dozen people needing city to city rides who want me to be their driver, so they call me and I go to their address, so it's my ping.
 

Vavvav

Active Member
That is rather impressive in a short period of time! That being said, driving to Niagara on the Lake, sometimes you must surely be losing money for some of those out of the way trips. You have to drive back to Port Colborne. Back to dollar amounts, there must be plenty of down time with no pings between 5am and 10am Monday to Friday. I had the app on this morning in the Falls and it was painfully slow. I made $8000 driving in 2016, that's $650 a month, definitely a side gig but for many long full hours. That's a few hundred bucks a week. What is your weekly average and hourly average? Best week? Again hours worked is important as is km. Would you say your regulars are the bulk of your income? Trips are so short, ever get longer runs?
 
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