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Driving Full time in Cleveland? Doable? Worth it?

partyvan

Active Member
Haha well I'll be in Cleveland through Browns season so I'm definitely hoping to enjoy some social time here as well. The rideshare income even after my contracted gig is up won't need to be 100% of my income. So even at 40 hours of driving and being 5 minutes from Hopkins you think $800 ish weekly is possible?
It is possible, how "easy" it is will depend a lot on when you drive and your tolerance for working early mornings and late nights. There are drivers making $800 or more from Friday-Sunday and there are drivers struggling to get to $800 driving 6 and 7 days a week. Uber is now MUCH more open about REAL $$ lately, their "job postings" for Ohio show around $16 per hour Online BEFORE expenses, $12-13 is probably the REAL average after gas for most drivers. Some drivers are making $30 or more and plenty of drivers are barely breaking $10.
 

Roger in Canton

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It is possible, how "easy" it is will depend a lot on when you drive and your tolerance for working early mornings and late nights. There are drivers making $800 or more from Friday-Sunday and there are drivers struggling to get to $800 driving 6 and 7 days a week. Uber is now MUCH more open about REAL $$ lately, their "job postings" for Ohio show around $16 per hour Online BEFORE expenses, $12-13 is probably the REAL average after gas for most drivers. Some drivers are making $30 or more and plenty of drivers are barely breaking $10.
Sounds about right! Since going to XL, my fares are anywhere from $12 - $24 per hour. With profits (after expenses) $8 - $19 per hour. But I normally drive Friday night in the Canton area. This doesn't include cash tips.
 

partyvan

Active Member
Sounds about right! Since going to XL, my fares are anywhere from $12 - $24 per hour. With profits (after expenses) $8 - $19 per hour. But I normally drive Friday night in the Canton area. This doesn't include cash tips.
I dont get out much for the late nights anymore unless in stuck in a hotel somewhere and bored. If I see a good “sticky surge” ill hop online and take a ride or 2. I have become even pickier, or lazier I guess. A couple hours of hauling people around is about all i can take anynore, although it is easier to stomach when its surging.

Has western stark and wayne county picked up much? Ill see a scheduled ride now and then on Lyft to Hopkins when im running across RT 30 or on 21. I got lucky twice and caught scheduled rides going to Hopkins early Mondays when i was flying out.
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Great timing we just got flat rate surge here in cleveland so no more guesswork
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Oh and try to stay outta east cleveland unless you have a death wish 😱
The only thing that scares me about the east side is killing my car on the crappy streets. Overall, i have had WAY more problems with idiot 20-40 year olds leaving bars in “nice” areas than i ever have in the “hood” picking up and dropping off people just trying to get around, and I drive all over Ohio. People are people, no matter where they live, the vast majority just need a ride and arent looking to harm you or anyone else.
 
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Roger in Canton

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Has western stark and wayne county picked up much?
I live on eastern edge of Wayne County and have noticed more Lyft and some Uber showing up in Wooster and some in Orrville. I gravitate toward Massillon usually. Last Friday I did get a ping to Wooster +45 trip, I figured what the heck, probably going to Cleveland, so I took it! Wrong! Went down 71 just off SR 95 exit ( about halfway between Mansfield/Columbus middle of nowhere), luckily I got an XL from SR 97 to Mansfield. I'm guessing some people that live in Wooster and Mansfield are turning on driver apps. It's kind of a catch 22 situation!
 
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Good luck! There’s better ways to make a few bucks.
definitely, but the flexibility of hours and schedule is important for me. I have a very inconsistent work schedule so to be able to turn the apps on at any hour any day is key for me.
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First post. Just discovered this Forum. Been driving Uber for 20 months, almost exclusively Saturday nights. Normally 9pm to 3am. Sometimes a bit sooner, sometimes later. Based in Lakewood but go where the rides take me (educated guess is 50% originate in Lakewood (lots of bars) downtown Cleveland or West 25th Street) Historically I have averaged about $180 ($30/hr) on Saturday nights, driving about 150 miles.

When Uber changed the surge I had three outstanding Saturday nights in a row, averaged over $45 an hour. I had to skip a couple of weekends since then, but my last two Saturdays have been considerably less profitable, about $150 a night. These are averages and I acknowledge I did not control many variables that affect earnings. But I have had numerous problems with the app the past couple of weeks.

As far as doing this full time, Good luck. I have tried weekdays and week nights, and the airport. I don't know the secret to success as I average about $12/hr during those times. From several conversations with drivers riding with me the few who do it full time do drive 12 hours a day and they speak in terms of weekly earnings, which has ranged up to $1200 a week. Sounds respectable until you pay for 1200 miles worth of gas, change your oil once a month, and your brakes once a year.
wouldn't even consider full time without a hybrid which i have
 

Coyotex

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I used to live in Broadview Heights. Maybe moving back. Just curious, what are the per mile / per minute rates in the Cleveland area?
 

Roger in Canton

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X is $.6/mile $.1275/min. XL is $.9288/mile $.2448/min.
Big money!!
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Lyft same as X, Plus is $.9675/mile $.255/min
 

Alan blue

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Ummm...stay out of
1. Buckeye Shaker
2. Glenville
3. South Collinwood
4. East Cleveland
5. St. Claire/Superior
6. East Cleveland (again...just for hell of it)
7. Stockyards
8. W25th street projects
9. Woodland Projects
10. Slavic Village
11. And about 5 other areas.

Basically stay out of all of Cleveland.

OK, basically don't drive
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I agree 1200 per month is like nothing.

The problem is that getting to $2000 - $4000 a month is a LOT of work. A LOT OF DRIVING.
How many hours for 1200

And how many hours for 4000
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X is $.6/mile $.1275/min. XL is $.9288/mile $.2448/min.
Big money!!
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Lyft same as X, Plus is $.9675/mile $.255/min
How much for luxury, is it worth in cleavland, plz how much weekly can make
 

czervik7

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I’m questioning whether late night weekends are worth driving.

I drive daytime, weekdays and some weekends. I don’t drive late nights.

Looking at anemic surges right now I wonder why anyone does it (it’s $2.25 in Ohio City right now — woohoo!)

I have an XL vehicle. I concentrate on airport rides to and from. I decline/cancel rides I see as losers. If Uber/Lyft say it’s my business I’ll run it how I want.

I have a 10% cancellation rate with Uber and Lyft. I’ll keep both apps on even while I’m going to a ride I accepted. If a better ride pops up in route I’ll take it and cancel the other.

They created this system. I’m going to take the utmost advantage of it. They exploit me. Send me all the messages you want. I have a 5 with Lyft and a 4.9 with Uber. I treat riders well.

When they send endless requests to me in-ride that are not attractive I’ll decline. Surge it and I’ll consider it.

I avoid unprofitable neighborhoods and rides. When I see the dollar store or Walmart I’m thinking, “Nope!”

If you want that than go right ahead and take it. I don’t make money that way. You can’t.
 

Michael - Cleveland

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Moderator
In general, you will make as much or more working XL late nights, 11P-3A Thursday Friday and Saturday nights (12 hours), as you will driving all week during daytime hours.

That $2.25 tagged you see on the map is only the bonus added to the pickup. What it means is that a $5 trip from a hotel to the flats is now paying you 50% more in earnings and still only takes 3 minutes.

More importantly, what you don't see is the underlying surge, now displayed as an "adjustment". If the rider is paying a 2.5x surge and the trip is a long trip, say from downtown to Beachwood or the airport, you also receive a portion of that surge.

So right now, from the outside, you are not seeing that because Uber does such a terrible job explaining it. But that is how the new surge works. For those who are driving XL on late nights, it explains why they are earning $60 and $80 for an XLl trip from downtown to Rocky River.
 

pizzaladee

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In general, you will make as much or more working XL late nights, 11P-3A Thursday Friday and Saturday nights (12 hours), as you will driving all week during daytime hours.

That $2.25 tagged you see on the map is only the bonus added to the pickup. What it means is that a $5 trip from a hotel to the flats is now paying you 50% more in earnings and still only takes 3 minutes.

More importantly, what you don't see is the underlying surge, now displayed as an "adjustment". If the rider is paying a 2.5x surge and the trip is a long trip, say from downtown to Beachwood or the airport, you also receive a portion of that surge.

So right now, from the outside, you are not seeing that because Uber does such a terrible job explaining it. But that is how the new surge works. For those who are driving XL on late nights, it explains why they are earning $60 and $80 for an XLl trip from downtown to Rocky River.
I wish they could give an answer as to what makes the surge pay out increase. I usually just assume it won’t unless it’s a long trip. I had a nice one Friday from Blossom. Long trip notification. $5 surge turned into $65.
 

Michael - Cleveland

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Moderator
I wish they could give an answer as to what makes the surge pay out increase. I usually just assume it won’t unless it’s a long trip. I had a nice one Friday from Blossom. Long trip notification. $5 surge turned into $65.
We are seeing the undoing of what management believes Kalanick"s biggest mistake was. He tied drivers earnings to what the rider pays, making a simple formula of supply and demand.

The new management team has completely separated fares from earnings. Their hope is that by doing so drivers will stop looking for the one big ride of the night that pays them $200, and just start taking back-to-back rides, picking up the tags and consecutive ride bonuses, and by doing so, not only mostly eliminate any surge pricing but also provide far better customer service to Riders.

( Disclaimer: I am not saying I agree or disagree with what they are doing!)
 

czervik7

Well-Known Member
I know long rides — usually about 25 minutes or more — get a bump on the surge. I’ve had a number of them.

I guess I just don’t want the late night headaches and prefer to have my evenings, especially on the weekend. That’s not a criticism of others preferences. It’s just my preference.

This isn’t my only gig. I drive about 4 to 6 hours a day during the day and usually a little later on Fridays.

And as far as us understanding what we should get during a surge — the less we know the less we can complain if we don’t get it.
 

CLEVE_MAC

Active Member
This summer has been excruciatingly slow, so don't judge anything based on it. I've barely driven in recent weeks. Enjoying the summer. Things pick up in the fall with Browns season, and winter is some of the best times to drive, in my opinion.
 

nouberipo

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Possibly relocating this summer to Middleburg Heights. Just curious. Thanks!
I have been doing this for three years and now I am lucky to make 6.00 per hour. That is not a typo. It doesn't matter if I drive weekends, weekdays, rush hour, etc... My acceptance rate is low so they constantly throttle me but as I get sent pings, like Lyft used to do, up to 30 minutes away sometimes, I am obviously not going to spend my time/money to depreciate my car to pick someone up for non-surge rates while a surge IS being charged since they obviously cannot get drivers to pick people up.
 

Michael - Cleveland

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Moderator
And as far as us understanding what we should get during a surge — the less we know the less we can complain if we don’t get it.
Exactly.
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I have been doing this for three years and now I am lucky to make 6.00 per hour. That is not a typo. It doesn't matter if I drive weekends, weekdays, rush hour, etc... My acceptance rate is low so they constantly throttle me but as I get sent pings, like Lyft used to do, up to 30 minutes away sometimes, I am obviously not going to spend my time/money to depreciate my car to pick someone up for non-surge rates while a surge IS being charged since they obviously cannot get drivers to pick people up.
You hourly average is just too low to justify driving. You are, in effect, donating your time and vehicle to Uber/Lyft.
If you don't have any choice about when and where you drive, seriously - set up a car-wash at the airport and you'll make three times what you're making now. Sell snacks, too, and you'll be able to retire next year.
 
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