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Drivers with interior cameras but don't disclose them

Discussion in 'Complaints' started by AveragePerson, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. AveragePerson

    AveragePerson

    Location:
    Canada
    Is creepy af. There are weird people out there like that. It makes people feel uncomfortable. Disclosure should be mandatory.
     
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  2. Seahawk3

    Seahawk3

    Location:
    Missoula
    Driving:
    UberX
    If you don't do anything wrong then nothing to worry about. It's a private vehicle your getting in no different then a house. If you don't want to be recorded don't leave your residence. In today's age you just have to assume your always being recorded
     
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  3. You think disclosing the camera would stop me?

    I don’t get this thread.
     
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  4. mrpjfresh

    mrpjfresh

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    Driving:
    UberX
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    " Ahh yea baby... pick that nose and wipe it on my seats. Give me backseat directions you bossy little milf. Tell me you'll tip me in the app... ahhhhh!!"

    This is one of the silliest complaints I've ever read on here. Worry about the guys, y'know, actually raping, stalking and hawking Amway on their riders.
     
  5. In the US, disclosure depends on the state...........
     
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  6. Disgusted Driver

    Disgusted Driver

    Location:
    Raleigh
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    See and I would rather tell my pax that they've been recorded after they try to pull some crap and that I'll send it in and have their account closed if they attempt to lie or retaliate. I don't need a cam to be creepy, by the way, tell me what you are wearing right now.
     
  7. You have to disclose you are recording the ride....either verbally or somewhere posted clearly in pax view.

    They can ask you to turn the camera off, at which time....I am quite sure.....you legally can end the ride in a safe location.
     
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  8. Uber's Guber

    Uber's Guber

    Location:
    United States
    Driving:
    UberX
    The need for cameras are about the weird paxholes sitting in the back seat who make drivers uncomfortable. The positioning of all my cameras recording all angles of my vehicle provides all the necessary and obvious disclosures to let paxholes know they are being recorded inside and outside of my vehicle. If they don't like it, they can get out and walk.
     
  9. Private operator means no mandatory declaration required. It's similar to being in a 7-11. Your best move to change anything is to address it with your state legislators.
     
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  10. Kodyhead

    Kodyhead

    Location:
    South Floreduh
    Driving:
    UberSUV
    I agree, I hate it when I break into someone's house or shoplift and they dont disclose that its been recorded on video
     
  11. Or worse yet....
    When you break into someone's house and they record you..... how dare they
     
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  12. UberBastid

    UberBastid

    Location:
    N.Cali
    I have a sign in my car that says they being recorded -- and they're not.
    There is this little tiny hole in my rear view mirror, with a small led light next to it. It dims the mirror when there's brights back there. If asked I tell them that is the camera.
    Had a guy get in once. About two minutes into the ride he says "So there's a camera in here? Where is it?" I pointed to my mirror and explained that it sends recordings right to the cloud so that they can't be erased by bad guys, and the cops can always find it. He says "So you have to have a sign telling people its here?" I replied in the affirmative. He says, "So, if I don't want to be recorded you have to turn it off."
    "Nope," says I, "I have to let you out of the car. It never gets turned off."
    Few seconds go by and I ask, "Do you want out?"
    He says, "You'd let me out on the freeway?"
    I say, "You're a grown man, you make your own decisions. And, I'm not a kidnapper. I will let you out where you want to get out. Do you want out?"
    All he said was 'no'.
    It was a quiet ride the rest of the way.
     
  13. Merc7186

    Merc7186

    Location:
    Buffalo NY
    Driving:
    UberXL
    Has dash cam...

    Does Not Disclose...
     
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  14. JimKE

    JimKE

    Location:
    Miami
    You're both wrong.

    You were right the first time. Laws vary from state to state -- and the critical issue is usually whether you are recording AUDIO.
    That's a grey area. I think Uber would support you on that.

    Lyft, I rather doubt. I have never had a complaint about my dashcam (with notice posted because Florida is a two-party consent state), but I have read screenshots of Lyft saying if you get further complaints (even if you're perfectly legal), they will deactivate...which is just Lyft being Lyft.

    I also advise celebrity pax of my dashcam, tell them it will not be posted anywhere, and ask if they want me to turn it off.
     
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  15. Unless it’s a secret upskirt cam built into the back of the seat (which would be illegal) or something like that, “most” cams are in plain sight on the window and you can see it. There are mirror cams that might be a little harder to spot but if your riding a rideshare ride you should expect to be recorded. You can choose to end the ride if you don’t want to be recorded.
     
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  16. UberBeemer

    UberBeemer Moderator

    Location:
    NW Chicago Suburbs
    Driving:
    UberSELECT
    Behaving in an Uber or Lyft car should be mandatory. The thing is, as a passenger, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in someone else's car. Get over it.

    Incorrect. The eavesdropping laws protect against covert recordings. A dashcam is not. The legal litmus test us whether a passenger has a reasonable expectation of privacy. They do not.
     
  17. AveragePerson

    AveragePerson

    Location:
    Canada
    ah that "either your with us or you are one of them" argument. Love it. I suppose if i'm against the death penalty, I must be harden criminal myself, or else why would i oppose it, after-all, i have nothing to fear right? 10/10 logic.

    being record is ok, just asking for disclosure, because people expects, privacy to a certain degree in a private ride. Just because something is allowed legally does not make it right. I'm sure as Uber drivers, Uber already taught you that lesson?
     
  18. AveragePerson

    AveragePerson

    Location:
    Canada
    at least you have the choice to choose whether you want to continue the ride
     
  19. touberornottouber

    touberornottouber

    Location:
    Volusia County, FL
    Driving:
    UberX
    It ought to be REQUIRED that there is a front and back facing dash camera with audio in operation when a passenger is in the vehicle. This would help us with false accusations and would probably lead to a lot better behavior from passengers over time (as they will know 100% they are being recorded).
     
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