Drivers Lets' POOL Together

D Tan

New Member
My dear fellow drivers, enough said about Uberpool and well put UberPOO!

I have resisted to post on this topic and to set the record straight like many of you Da-Ger (big brothers) with more experience, I started driving Uber way prior Uberpool and can say life then was OK (not good but OK) and it now very bad with Uberpool's introduction.

The only way Uberpool will fail is when it is less utilized. In order for this to happen we really need to POOL together and this is what I have been doing for the past month.

1) Educate rider the disadvantages of Uberpool. - the only advantage is cheaper ride.
*** we can list them out later****


2) Rating pool riders with just 1 star!
Lets rate all uberpool riders with 1 star. We need to be heartless in order to drive the point home. Habitual pool riders will get hit hard.


3) Take time to glorify uberX riders. Before I end a UberX, trip I will send an SMS to the Loyal UberX rider and the message says: You derserved a 5 star rating for not using UberPool. Of course end the trip and rate them 5 stars.

Lets POOL together and let our voice be heard. If any brothers out there got more PRO-ACTIVE suggestions please share. It's time to ACT and stop @@@@@ing!

Don Tan
 

Jeffrey Lim

Member
Hello Brother Don

Well said.

I contribute some disadvantages here:
1) more time spend on travel
2) being in same enclosed area with a strangers- worse off if the stranger have hygiene problems
3) young ladies be aware of crocodiles or colour wolves


Definitely give them 1 star!


I see nothing wrong with your text message! Will save it in the phone as a Text Template.
 

Poor_Lad

Active Member
Thing is pax love to take advantage of the Pool system. Especially after midnight where chances of a match are slim. A lot of airport trips are Pool as well. It reached the point where it really started to hurt my earnings. Very angry, feel like want to reject every Pool request from now on.
 

zOrPhLiNg

Well-Known Member
Hello Brother Don

Well said.

I contribute some disadvantages here:
1) more time spend on travel
2) being in same enclosed area with a strangers- worse off if the stranger have hygiene problems
3) young ladies be aware of crocodiles or colour wolves


Definitely give them 1 star!


I see nothing wrong with your text message! Will save it in the phone as a Text Template.
I won't care. I just want the cheapest ride home or to work. Longer travelling time? Sorry, I am not in a rush if not I would have taken a taxi or X. How big is Singapore only. Any trips can be considered short by any international standards. Weirdos? It's okay. You see them all over public transport anyway. Crocodiles? No worries. Women are very protected in Singapore. Lastly, buses and trains have much closer contact during peak hours and since pool just cost abit more, this point about hygiene surely doesn't justify.
 

stevewish

Active Member
Just pay slightly more, rider can enjoy so much benefit. Don't need to walk, just book and wait for arrival. Upon exit, just step out and almost reach home/destination. Rain or shine also don't affect much. Most important , don't need to squeeze and confirm with seat, some more leather seat with great cushion. Can still ask driver to set aircon level, drink, eat, sleep, talk over phone, also no one bother. Hygiene wise, public transport is much worst, it serves in term of thousands vs few ones.
 

dnkk

Member
Hope all U drivers whom do not want to affect their AR/CR, you can help to weed out this "POO" by:

"Rating pool riders with just 1 star!"
 
Have anyone of you accepted Pool trips with Surge only to realize when trip completed there is no Surge paid to driver (no Surge breakdown provided for the Surge trip) in the trip details on the Uber App ?
 

ustar

Active Member
Correct me if I am wrong.

Lets say a trip from Kallang to Airport cost $10 for Uberx, Driver will take $8 after deducting Uber commission of 20%

If that same trip Kallang to Airport is Uberpool and no pool matches (only 1 rider all the way to destination), is it driver will earn $7 after deducting Uber commission of 30%?

Is it Uberpool if no pool matches, that single pool rider will pay Uberx fare but driver commission is 30%?
 

easydriving

Active Member
Correct me if I am wrong.

Lets say a trip from Kallang to Airport cost $10 for Uberx, Driver will take $8 after deducting Uber commission of 20%

If that same trip Kallang to Airport is Uberpool and no pool matches (only 1 rider all the way to destination), is it driver will earn $7 after deducting Uber commission of 30%?

Is it Uberpool if no pool matches, that single pool rider will pay Uberx fare but driver commission is 30%?
I think u are wrong.

Uberx to Kallang $10
Comm to Uber $2
Udriver gets $8

Upool to Kallang $8
Comm to Uber $2.40
Udriver gets $5.60

Upool normally 20-25% lower than Uberx. Upool take 30% commission cause u are more likely to hit incentive. That is what Uber wants u to think. How many are hitting incentives wt Upool.
 

ustar

Active Member
I think u are wrong.

Uberx to Kallang $10
Comm to Uber $2
Udriver gets $8

Upool to Kallang $8
Comm to Uber $2.40
Udriver gets $5.60

Upool normally 20-25% lower than Uberx. Upool take 30% commission cause u are more likely to hit incentive. That is what Uber wants u to think. How many are hitting incentives wt Upool.
Likey to hit incentive is it the reason Upool 2 different riders considered as 2 trips (TPH)? or is it some other reason?

If you frequently get only 1 solo rider using Upool all the way, like that already earn 20-25% lower than Uberx and still need to deduct higher commission 30%. Earn peanuts, even if you hit incentive (which need to see luck) will also not cover the losses of 1 solo rider using Upool.
 

easydriving

Active Member
Likey to hit incentive is it the reason Upool 2 different riders considered as 2 trips (TPH)? or is it some other reason?

If you frequently get only 1 solo rider using Upool all the way, like that already earn 20-25% lower than Uberx and still need to deduct higher commission 30%. Earn peanuts, even if you hit incentive (which need to see luck) will also not cover the losses of 1 solo rider using Upool.
That is why I see so many obstacles Uber place to make sure u dun hit incentive land. That is also why Uber will never revise the cancellation charge from 5 mins to 1 min. Uber will love it when Riders cancel cause it makes u loose time to achieve the TPH. Diabolical..... salute whoever thought all this up for Uber.
 
Dear All

Pool is the biggest con job by Uber as far as I am concerned.

Have any of you here been offered upfront fixed fares to accept for UberPool trips ?

Just got a reply from Uber that I accepted upfront UberPool fares with a fixed amount on them.

Truth is I did not. Can anyone else share his/her experience please, if any
 

easydriving

Active Member
Dear All

Pool is the biggest con job by Uber as far as I am concerned.

Have any of you here been offered upfront fixed fares to accept for UberPool trips ?

Just got a reply from Uber that I accepted upfront UberPool fares with a fixed amount on them.

Truth is I did not. Can anyone else share his/her experience please, if any
I believe that Uberx is dynamic pricing and Upool is fixed. See pic
Uberx prices is always $××.×× & UP
Upool prices is always fixed
 

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easydriving

Active Member
Oh just noticed Upool price is 30% lesser than Uberx price in pic I posted just now.

So if I apply the previous example

Uberx to Kallang $10
Comm to Uber $2
Udriver make $8

Upool to Kallang $7
Comm to Uber $2.10
Udriver make $4.90

OMG.... Earning when rider use Upool drop by 38%.
 
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CsLai

New Member
My understanding of UBerPool introduced 1 month ago was Pool ride is usually 25% cheaper than UberX and if Pool trip is not matched then comm is 10% and if matched then 30%.
So the calculations above should be:

Uberx to Kallang $10
Comm to Uber $2
Udriver make $8

Upool to Kallang $7.50
Comm to Uber $0.75
Udriver make $6.75

The issue is not whether 5.60 or 4.90 or 6.75! It is the professionalism of Uber. DO NOT confuse the drivers. Be honest and be transparent on the calculations. Show the drivers how the figure is derived. Let the drivers understand his earnings. I was told by Uber specialist that the Pool trip fares are upfront fixed prices and the drivers are required to drive and follow the map, usually going round the town like a minibus hoping to get a match. If it is a solo trip, SORRY la. But there is a match then the drivers are still confused on how Uber calculates the fares of the 2 riders!!! Be professional and be transparent. Show your calculations to the drivers. This is not rocket science. Only with thorough understanding and with full trust you can succeed. Otherwise it is UBERPOOH!
 
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