Does anyone have Uber and Lyft rate history?

Nats121

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There's zillions of references to Uber and Lyft rate cuts over the years, but I haven't been able to find the actual numbers.

I'm hoping there's some veterans who go way back with these companies, who could tell us how much the rates were in the olden days, and the amount and timeline of the various rate cuts. Thanks.
 

dmv

Active Member
2013

On August 8 Uber launched a new service in Washington, uberX, designed to compete with taxicabs by offering similar or cheaper fares—a $5 base fare and $2.50 per mile if the car travels over 11 mph—in fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles.

http://wamu.org/story/13/08/13/with_lower_price_service_uber_again_irks_dc_regulators/


(2014)

Uber advertises that its UberX rates are 18 percent cheaper than D.C. taxicab fares, with the base fare starting at $3.10, a per-mile charge of $1.40 and a per-minute charge of 29 cents (It charges a minimum fare of $4.70).

Meanwhile, Lyft charges riders $2.03 for a pickup, $1.26 per mile, 26 cents per minute and a $1 “trust and safety fee,” with a minimum $5 charge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/competition-from-uberx-lyft-has-dc-taxis-crying-foul/2014/05/11/5920c866-d60a-11e3-8a78-8fe50322a72c_story.html?utm_term=.

(August 2014)

The base fare is now $2.00 plus $1.25 per mile and $.25 per minute.

http://wamu.org/story/14/08/26/uberx_slashes_prices_dealing_blow_to_dc_cabs/

(2015)

Uber is cutting fares for its popular ride-hailing service UberX for the second time since August, striking another blow against its competitors in Washington’s vehicle-for-hire market.

The UberX base fare will remain at $2.00. The distance rate will drop from $1.25/mile to $1.02/mile and the time rate will drop from 25 cents per minute to 20 cents per minute.

http://wamu.org/story/15/02/02/fares_dropping_again_for_uberx_putting_squeeze_on_dc_cabbies/
 
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Nats121

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(2014)

Uber advertises that its UberX rates are 18 percent cheaper than D.C. taxicab fares, with the base fare starting at $3.10, a per-mile charge of $1.40 and a per-minute charge of 29 cents (It charges a minimum fare of $4.70).

Meanwhile, Lyft charges riders $2.03 for a pickup, $1.26 per mile, 26 cents per minute and a $1 “trust and safety fee,” with a minimum $5 charge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...fe50322a72c_story.html?utm_term=.a89a2fff7d92
The date of that article is May 2014, and I believe the rates had already been cut before that.
 

Nats121

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Scroll down to the bottom of the page and it lists every rate and change since 2015
Those cuts are disastrous, but there were even bigger cuts before 2015.

2013

On August 8 Uber launched a new service in Washington, uberX, designed to compete with taxicabs by offering similar or cheaper fares—a $5 base fare and $2.50 per mile if the car travels over 11 mph—in fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles.

http://wamu.org/story/13/08/13/with_lower_price_service_uber_again_irks_dc_regulators/


(2014)

Uber advertises that its UberX rates are 18 percent cheaper than D.C. taxicab fares, with the base fare starting at $3.10, a per-mile charge of $1.40 and a per-minute charge of 29 cents (It charges a minimum fare of $4.70).

Meanwhile, Lyft charges riders $2.03 for a pickup, $1.26 per mile, 26 cents per minute and a $1 “trust and safety fee,” with a minimum $5 charge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/competition-from-uberx-lyft-has-dc-taxis-crying-foul/2014/05/11/5920c866-d60a-11e3-8a78-8fe50322a72c_story.html?utm_term=.

(August 2014)

The base fare is now $2.00 plus $1.25 per mile and $.25 per minute.

http://wamu.org/story/14/08/26/uberx_slashes_prices_dealing_blow_to_dc_cabs/

(2015)

Uber is cutting fares for its popular ride-hailing service UberX for the second time since August, striking another blow against its competitors in Washington’s vehicle-for-hire market.

The UberX base fare will remain at $2.00. The distance rate will drop from $1.25/mile to $1.02/mile and the time rate will drop from 25 cents per minute to 20 cents per minute.

http://wamu.org/story/15/02/02/fares_dropping_again_for_uberx_putting_squeeze_on_dc_cabbies/
When you see or hear stories like that, you realize just how clueless and lazy the news media are.

By the time that story was covered, drivers had already suffered huge pay cuts months before that, and the story bullshits about a previous 15% cut.

They also, without question, buy the bullshit about the so-called guarantees from Uber, which were only temporary, and filled with loopholes.

Even when drivers picket, they fail to do anything resembling investigative reporting.

Whether it's CNN, US News, or local news stations, their default "driver advocate" they interview is that sellout rideshare guy Harry Campbell, who makes sure he never says anything that will truly offend his benefactors at Uber and Lyft. Look at any story that interviews him, and he always makes sure to mention that some drivers are doing well despite the pay cuts.
 

yankdog

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Those cuts are disastrous, but there were even bigger cuts before 2015.


When you see or hear stories like that, you realize just how clueless and lazy the news media are.

By the time that story was covered, drivers had already suffered huge pay cuts months before that, and the story bullshits about a previous 15% cut.

They also, without question, buy the bullshit about the so-called guarantees from Uber, which were only temporary, and filled with loopholes.

Even when drivers picket, they fail to do anything resembling investigative reporting.

Whether it's CNN, US News, or local news stations, their default "driver advocate" they interview is that sellout rideshare guy Harry Campbell, who makes sure he never says anything that will truly offend his benefactors at Uber and Lyft. Look at any story that interviews him, and he always makes sure to mention that some drivers are doing well despite the pay cuts.
Have you been paying attention to the entire mainline media the last couple decades or more. The conglomerates that own them have no interest in expanding resources to really to any more investigative work. They cover whatever press release is written the best and have talking heads. The Uber stuff won't appeal to anyone because their are no labor or worker reporters any more and the business news is purely about Corporate. I don't blame the media. This that own them have no interest in paying for themselves to be investigated. There may be a path forward but hoping for an intensive 3 part series isn't happening
 

Nats121

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Have you been paying attention to the entire mainline media the last couple decades or more. The conglomerates that own them have no interest in expanding resources to really to any more investigative work. They cover whatever press release is written the best and have talking heads. The Uber stuff won't appeal to anyone because their are no labor or worker reporters any more and the business news is purely about Corporate. I don't blame the media. This that own them have no interest in paying for themselves to be investigated. There may be a path forward but hoping for an intensive 3 part series isn't happening
They do some investigative reports, but all too often they fail to cover the whole story.

It wouldn't take any intensive multi-part story to cover rideshare, just a little reporting. Check Uber and Lyft's pay rate history like we're doing, interview drivers anonymously to prevent reprisals, and check out blogs such as this one.

I doubt most of the public as well as the news media are aware how low the pay is in this business, and the serious financial problems the cuts have caused many drivers.
 

roadman

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They do some investigative reports, but all too often they fail to cover the whole story.

It wouldn't take any intensive multi-part story to cover rideshare, just a little reporting. Check Uber and Lyft's pay rate history like we're doing, interview drivers anonymously to prevent reprisals, and check out blogs such as this one.

I doubt most of the public as well as the news media are aware how low the pay is in this business, and the serious financial problems the cuts have caused many drivers.
The public doesn't care about us in the least. They care only about themselves and their ability to get reliable door to door limousine level transporation day in and day out for less then the price of the bus. They are far more interested in stories alleging that the drivers are ripping off riders by causing surge, or discriminating against riders, or drivers not providing wheelchair access. As far as status goes that of an Uber driver is lowest possible. Every other job in this country, the workers make at least minimum wage. But not working for Uber. We make far far less. So far the courts have done very little to help us but hopefully that will change soon.
 

yankdog

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The public doesn't care about us in the least. They care only about themselves and their ability to get reliable door to door limousine level transporation day in and day out for less then the price of the bus. They are far more interested in stories alleging that the drivers are ripping off riders by causing surge, or discriminating against riders, or drivers not providing wheelchair access. As far as status goes that of an Uber driver is lowest possible. Every other job in this country, the workers make at least minimum wage. But not working for Uber. We make far far less. So far the courts have done very little to help us but hopefully that will change soon.
This is the real point. Even if there was investigative reporting, if the public didn't care about blue collar jobs since the mid 70s, why would they care about Uber drivers either. What the media is paid to design as a news service in part both shapes and reflects these value choices.
 

yankdog

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On the Totem Pole of life it's this order

Mime at streetcorner/Metro entrance

Bum with sign saying 'please help' at offramp/intersection

Us, Uber drivers
Christ and I was just accepted to mime school. Christ I can't win!
 

Aztek98

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The good old days in greater maryland. 1.52 per mile and 3.0 surges every morning from 3 to 5am In Columbia. There were like 3 of us drivers and we could raise the surge by logging off and waiting to log in. Easily made 150 bucks before 7am then went back to bed.

I would be logged on to Lyft in Columbia to qualify for pdb but couldn't get any pings lol. Then I would drive DC to get the rides at 100%.

Older drivers told the stories of the 40 dollar an hour guaranteed where you took one ride and hid for the rest of the hour.

Fun times.
 

nutzareus

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Older drivers told the stories of the 40 dollar an hour guaranteed where you took one ride and hid for the rest of the hour.

I remember $27/hour guarantees with 1 ride per hour average, so I would do 4-6 short trips in the morning less than 2 hours and remain logged on at work where no one needs a ride in the area then collect for 6 hours at $27 each. Now that was making it work by burning through Saudi investor money.
 
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