Calling all grinder and surgers!

San Diego Steve

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So how did all the grinders and surgers do on comic con week. Let's compare figures for each type of style of driving for probably one of our biggest weeks of the year. State your net revenue, per hours online and total hours door to door from your house. Post total per hour net, total miles driven and how many rides you completed. Be honest, no bs here please otherwise you will be required to screenshot your inflated results.
I'm at $1034 net plus $28 cash tips for $1062 net. That was at 45 hours online and around 50 overall with breaks and dead commute time. 63 total rides. 5 days of work at around 1,100 miles driven including my commute miles . My hourly came in at over $20 per hour total drive time away from home. I had a bad Wednesday, would have been at $25 per hour for 4 days of work. This was uber Lyft combined including bonuses from both companies. Let's see how we did boys and girls!!
 
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Null

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$1250 on Uber (includes stacked incentives for week and comic Con weekend and ~$50 cash+square.)

$342 Lyft. $50 was for a damage fee from a spill and $95 was from guarantees stacked with Uber during same hours. Could have got more but was sloppy/forgetful.

So yeah, I grossed $27/hr over the whole week.

I worked all 7 days and had 58 hrs door to door.
 

Tidballa

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~$700 net

Got a $90 bonus on Lyft for hourly guarantees, and was logged on for 22 hours... I only had Lyft on for the most part during guarantees and was tricked by PT a bunch, gave 36 rides, and made a gross of $400... I didn't work after 2pm on Saturday to hang with friends, but drove early in the morning on Sunday and was done by noon.

No bonus on Uber, but only did Uber surge rides, so I was logged on for 16 hours, had 39 rides, and made $437... $20 in cash tips.

Spent ~$150 in gas

I didn't keep track of door to door hours worked, but let's just say 30ish. ~$23 an hour surge and guarantee driving, but I am still a noob at it.

You guys killed it! Well done :smiles:
 

San Diego Steve

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$1377, 28 trips, 55 hours "online". I go online at home some nights for several hours so the online time doesn't reflect actual time out of the house. It looks pretty for 28 trips but I am at 17mpg.
You averaged over $50 per trip, wow. What are you driving? Suv, xl or black. That can't be X rides for sure.
 

Ubernic

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You averaged over $50 per trip, wow. What are you driving? Suv, xl or black. That can't be X rides for sure.
I triple dip in the higher services now. Started on Select in April then quickly changed it up to do it all. It's definitely good money, but my insurance costs are higher, gas, and days sometimes get boring. However long trips are not uncommon, most of the people either have money to blow or will pretend like they have money to blow. Each rating and ride is so important on these services though, we want every ride that we can get. Which is why I get grumpy when I see people show up late to events and snag a rude just because they happened to drive by the tent at the right time.

The guys who are really making out are the ones who have better gas mileage SUVs or Black cars, they can get gas mileage similar to some X cars, but get paid $2.35-$4.35/mile non surge. You will be surprised how often they surge too, it's kind of wild. There is a reason you see all those black Suburbans all over Del Mar and every event, it's good money, for now...

Uber is risky, the whole thing could dry up overnight or they could change requirements, do any number of things and hang us out to dry. Big reward though IF you work the right events and hours.
 

Ubernic

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Another thing to consider is with higher services I am constantly on the move, racking up dead miles because I need to be at events, that's where the rides are for me. I will go to Del Mar, Sleep Train, Airport, all in the same day. Days that I strike out I don't make much, but good days it's a killing. Definitely feels very vulnerable though, like the whole thing can come crashing down at any moment. Meanwhile, I'm just riding the wave.
 

DriverX

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THe 4th was a bigger week than comicon with more hours of surge for sure. My hourly rate was a little lower though probably because I worked the LYft guarantees on that week. adn when its hot I don't mind taking the 1.7Xs as much.

Last week, I thought I might get a few hours on lyft guarantees but I was busy on Uber and only did a few Lyfts. I decided the $60 PT ride I pulled at the end of my saturday night made going home instead of taking the extra 9 rides I need for 90% acceptance and maybe $18 more in guarantees, the better move. Last week week I had over a 2.1X surge on all fares combined for uber and about a 98% PT on Lyft combined.

I booked $500 net in 13 hours and 29 rides combined for both platforms which breaks down to $38.46 an hour. Burned about $30 in gas so about 300 miles which is totally inefficient by my standards.

So thats surge driving primarily on friday and saturday nights with a couple decent random weekday runs. I did not drive sunday or monday at all.

Obviously I'm not getting rich doing this and neither is anyone. I'm just not trying to fool myself into thinking that if I work harder by driving longer I will somehow make a lot of money before burning out or totaling my vehicle. The figures people post here make it very clear that even on the good weeks the grind averages $25 an hour and on the bad weeks it more like $10-15.

The way Uber rigged its rates to string you all along at the lowest possible amount will only guarantee you diminishing returns. The more time you put in the less you get out. If you want the rate to go up you have to stop accepting the rate they are giving you. That's a fact jack!

Uber offf until 2X!
 
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Flarpy

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Glad to see some people are making it work at least somewhat. $20-25 an hour is nothing to brag to the world about but I guess it's good for taxi driving.

I assume you have to work nights and/or weekends to make that kind of money. Suppose one has a life and friends and girlfriends who like to do fun stuff at those times though?
 

Gabriel Quijas

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Zero made on Uber. Planted a tree at the new house. Fought with the crows trying to eat the fruit from our other trees. Need to go out and drive my damn car. But have been enjoying working off my check list of things to get done. Soon enough I will get back to grinding. I did swoop into downtown intending to work, but seeing all the sweaty xtra large people, I decided to go back to yard work and installing new ceiling fans. Just did not want that fat sweat seeping into the leather.
 

Ubernic

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I remember seeing an ad that Uber advertises that drivers average $19/hr. Not bad for this type of work.

I also don't agree with the statement that doing this long term will only diminish returns. If you do it long enough to pay for your entire investment in the vehicle+another $30-40k, and at the end keep the car or get to sell it, that is the way to go. Driving the car short term and getting scratches in the paint, upholstery, etc that goes with this gig seems like a losing proposotion. If you only make $8k but have a thrashed car that sucks. If you make $100k then all of a sudden that thrashed car seems like it was worth it.
 

DriverX

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Glad to see some people are making it work at least somewhat. $20-25 an hour is nothing to brag to the world about but I guess it's good for taxi driving.

I assume you have to work nights and/or weekends to make that kind of money. Suppose one has a life and friends and girlfriends who like to do fun stuff at those times though?
Social life? LOL how many taxi drivers have a social life by normal standards. Yep my weekend nights are over. I did manage to go to opening day at the track before starting to drive at 6pm and catch a Padre game Saturday night, besides a couple day runs, I didn't start driving that night until after 10pm still made over $120. Working the dinner hours is never a good move. get some early evening runs if you can and then go home and wait for the night show to start. You can fit a lot more in when you are only online 13 hours in a week. When you grind you are at the mercy of the app. You are always on call and can't do anything else because you might have to take a call. If you just watch the map and wait for surge you have the option to be on call at all times so it's much easier to go surf during the lulls or run errands or whatever you need to get done without the fear of having to stop and accept some shitty $3 fare.

It works for me, but I don't live beyond my means.
 

Flarpy

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If I gave up my social life I'd certainly want more than $20-25 an hour with no benefits or retirement. Or at least a great job with a future and advancement potential.
 

Ubernic

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I don't get why you care so much about hourly. We have access to basically unlimited income, it just depends on how long we wish to stay out. I'd rather have $1500/week at $20/hr than $500/week at $38/hr. I guess if you are OK with leaving money on the table because you can't stand doing $20/hr that's your thing. I truly believe letting people do what makes them happy has a lot of value. If getting out of the house all day for grinders is fun and makes more weekly, even with a smaller hourly more power to them.
 

DriverX

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I don't get why you care so much about hourly. We have access to basically unlimited income, it just depends on how long we wish to stay out.
That statement makes me think you're not basing your decisions in the reality of a 24 hour day. Unlimited income would mean unlimited time. THere are only 24 hours in a day and only a few of those hours are profitable, the rest are statistically breaking even or losing money. So I don't work them. You say I'm leaving money on the table, I say I'm setting my price and would rather leave it on the table and keep my dignity. Day after day of doing those SAN runs, showing up promptly with a freshly cleaned car and a smile. Loading there luggage and asking them about the flight just to see the destination is the Hyatt. Safely arriving at their lux hotel and unloading their $500 gucci bag only to be left with a thanks and NO TIP! ALl for $3.20 WTF how degrading is that. If I was the pax I'd be thinking to myself what a chump this guy is for waiing 20 minutes to drive my ungratefull a$$ 2 miles for $3.

ANyway, this is why I predict trouble in the pig pen.
 

Ubernic

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When I say unlimited income, I am referring to 24 hour a day access to add on to our earnings anytime we feel like it. Where do you get your info that says working non surge hours are breaking even or losing money? You're saying it's impossible to make money on base fares? I've seen guys pulling 100+ rides a week that do better than break even.
 
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