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Discussion in 'Niagra Region' started by carlito0530, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. carlito0530

    carlito0530 Member

    Location:
    West Lincoln
    How is business in niagara region? Brock University? Haven't been there in a while.
     
  2. billyvnn

    billyvnn Member

    Location:
    hamilton
    Slow. :(
     
  3. Vavvav

    Vavvav Active Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    Brock is our best bet in Niagara but it's still minimum wage when you stop back and look at the numbers. Friday and Saturday nights there are power hours where you can make $20 an hour average but outside of those hours nothing to write home about.
     
  4. Wolfmaan

    Wolfmaan New Member

    Location:
    Niagara Region
    Niagara is okay. The two hot spots are near the university and the casino. Wednesday is "moose and goose" pub night and can often be busy. You can make a decent $300 or more each week if you work long hours.
     
  5. Vavvav

    Vavvav Active Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    I find if you drive 8 hours Friday, 8 hours Saturday, an have the app on 5 to 6 hours Monday through Thursday and Sunday out can make close to $300, but you are turning the App on for 30 plus hours. That's minimum wage and lots of waiting. Makes you think you should get a real job. Factor in gas and taxes and it's less then minimum wage.
     

  6. Wolfmaan

    Wolfmaan New Member

    Location:
    Niagara Region
    I met a driver from Washington, DC and he said he makes $400+ a day working for six hours.
     
  7. Vavvav

    Vavvav Active Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    There is always that one exception but think about it. If that was an average he would be making $120000 a year. In the beginning Uber drivers could do $90000 in a big city but this is Niagara and you have to drive 40 hours at minimum wage to make $400. Minus 20 percent for gas and it's $320 over 40 hours!!!! $8 an hour!!!
     
  8. uberpoolfool

    uberpoolfool Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Trumpville, Ontario
    Driving:
    UberX
    here in Kitchener-Waterloo-Guelph, I can make $500 a day working 5 hours...
     
  9. atomck

    atomck Member

    Location:
    Niagara Ontario
    Driving:
    UberX
    Wolfman Lets assume Uber pays $1.25 per kilometer, and it doesn't. So you would be doing 400 KM's in a 5 hour day. That works out to be an average speed in town of over 80 KM's an hour with no stops and no slow downs, no red lights and no jerk drivers for a full 5 hours. To average that speed I would like to know where my math goes wrong, or does your K-Car have Hyper-Drive? Maybe you meant $500 a week working 5 hours a day. I do that too.

    I'm 71 and the old body likes to take it easy. So no 8 hour days. I work early mornings usually 5:AM to 10 or 11 and I can usually do better than $500. St Catharines is better than Niagara. Averaging what I am paid, because the city is bigger, I make about 30% more per ride in St. Catharines. I tried a couple of afternoons in Niagara, but although there are lots of tourist riders, their rudeness tells me I don't need their crap, so mornings for me when most of my rides are my regulars. I treat them great and they do the same. I am a happy UBER driver.
     
  10. carlito0530

    carlito0530 Member

    Location:
    West Lincoln
    $500 in 5hrs? You mean a week right? If not can you post our earnings
     
  11. atomck

    atomck Member

    Location:
    Niagara Ontario
    Driving:
    UberX
    Have you no concept of mathematics? Take what you make in one kilometer. Divide that into $500, and that would tell you that you have to travel over 400 km's in those 5 hours. If you put your car on cruise control at 100 km/hr it would take you 4 hours at at that steady speed to to cover those km's in that time. Then I am exaggerating you don't make $1.25 per/km UBER pays us less. I am not going to fight the laws of physics and mathematics.
    I am considered to be a reasonably high earner and I will show you my pay slips. Lets see yours. I'll show you my five highest, with the rides and hours shown, and I want to see yours. my email is sd niagara at gmail.com It is broken as the blog doesn't like email addresses. I am posting them just to you. And if your a betting man, let me know, I love great odds.
     
  12. Niagara Driver

    Niagara Driver New Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    Let's face it, many people continue to do speedy or under the table rides in Niagara.

    Your math doesn't seem to add up Atomck. If trips in Niagara Falls are 30 percent less how you averaging $20 a trip? How many trips do you do per day and week?
     
  13. atomck

    atomck Member

    Location:
    Niagara Ontario
    Driving:
    UberX
    Today the St.Josephs in Hamilton for an 1o:30 AM Appointment from Port Colborne $87.36

    2:pM Architect to St. Catharines and return to Fort Erie. 30 minutes waiting, there, wait and back $101,
    with another same trip Thursday at 1:pm

    I do six rides every weekday morning before 9 except Friday. These are wait at the end of the driveway rides. It pays me $68-$70 a day< and on Fridays the regulars pay $55. a day, except for the Two people that pay me to have their physio at Sunnybrook and return. $280 with a two hour wait between trips. I'm home by 3, having made about $335. That will last another six weeks, and Niagara Health tells me they are going to have more need for me to take people to Sunnybrook, and the cancer clinic in Hamilton.

    Go ahead and doubt whatever you like, but I am doing fewer rides and being paid more. See my ad in Kijiji and see what I am doing about the rides to the GTA and London, where I will take them Uber, wait and provide a free return ride. That is working out to be along with my early morning regular riders, about $250- $300 a day minimum, for 7 rides. That works out to be pretty good income per ride. Heavy on the expenses because of the distance, but better than McDonalds, if I were so inclined. Which I am not.

    I have now 10+ distance rides booked between now and Next Monday. I don't want to do all them so I have given one of our compatriots 3 of them to do.

    I'm done defending myself. I have two transport companies that I run and make a good buck with besides UBER. Track me down in person and I will give you their URL's and you can see how I make my money on top of what I do with UBER
     
  14. Niagara Driver

    Niagara Driver New Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    I can't find your Kijiji Ads. If you have a transportation company or two of them(private limo service) what are doing driving Uber? Cancer drivers are normally unpaid, how are you booking paid rides to Sunnybrook? I have done a lot of Uber and I sense most don't want a regular driver and those that do will want a cash arrangement I sense.
     
  15. atomck

    atomck Member

    Location:
    Niagara Ontario
    Driving:
    UberX
    Whatever you sense is your choice. But the people I deal with gather back there expenses directly, and they pay me directly. All the health authority has done with me and continues to do, is verify my reliability. I have not let them down yet. I have contract drivers for my main business. I am not a limo service, but I do use two services that are. My secondary company is Transporting Executives only. That is not advertised at all, very private and discreet. Yell-Niagara is the parent very busy company. I don't understand why instead of the UBER people working together, they seem to take offence at anything anyone else is doing. I guess my only argument was someone saying they can make $500 in a five hour day. It was inferred that it was by driving UBER. Now we know it was Speedy. I have no idea what driving illegally pays. No argument. I have specialty licensing and insurance, so I don't carry anyone uninsured. As a business person I don't want to jeopardize myself , and I certainly don't want to have someone hurt in my car and have them realize I had no insurance coverage. That is a criminal offence. I am finished arguing with anyone. Uber wants us to be unhappy with each other as drivers (divide and conquer), and I would like to see an affiliation where we are all in what we do for mutual benefit. I do well in business, through experience. And I just like to get up in the morning at 3:30, be in Niagara by 5:AM and drive my regular riders to work and home. Most days I finish between 10 and 11 and I go home with money earned. My other interests are taken care of by people who work for me. I UBER by choice and I am retired by choice.
     

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  16. Niagara Driver

    Niagara Driver New Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    You have made a go of it and I commend you. But you have private insurance and your own transportation company. That puts you in a better position then the rest of us. But you are clearly advertising your services to everyone you Uber. Nothing wrong with that, you have a business and Uber is a means to network. If you were just driving Uber and not handing out business cards you would be like the rest of us driving Uber scraping by on minimum wage. The rest of us can't arrange rides on the Uber platform.

    It's almost impossible to work together with other drivers, there are no waiting lines and no "you go I go aspect to try system."
     
  17. Vavvav

    Vavvav Active Member

    Location:
    Niagara Falls
    Speedy is even less, the rates are flat, $8 across town.
     
  18. Uberrat

    Uberrat Member

    Location:
    Ottawa, On
    Driving:
    UberX
    Wow it seems that math is not a strong suit for you.
    How gas did you actually use while driving?
    How much were your other Expenses?
    How much do you write off each year with those Expenses?
    How about CCA and home expenses did you take them off?
    I averaged about 17$ an hour before expenses.
    But I paid no taxes on my uber income due to write-offs.
    So I made about 23$ an hour after expenses...good isn't it?
     
  19. atomck

    atomck Member

    Location:
    Niagara Ontario
    Driving:
    UberX
    Uberrat<
    My accounting might now suit you, but it has made me a very successful businessman. So you know I pay my accountant to do my total books, and that is why I pay what is fair on quite a large income. I can assure you that a very small proportion of my income comes from UBER, just like the rest of the drivers around these parts. Very small !

    No one seems to be depreciating their car in any paperwork I have seen. What happens? Does the Sugar Plum Car Fairy buy you a new car every 300,000 KM's. My car will break 300K in 3 years, so $26,000 paid and I figure it'll be worth $3,500 in 3 years. That's $22,500 divided by my mileage which just depreciation alone is 7.5 cents per KM. You should have been depreciating your car from the day you turned your first UBER kilo. Sure it's deductible but the tax man is not going to buy you a new car, when yours is ready for the boneyard.

    UBER is not the best way to make a buck, especially if any of that buck has to be used for groceries. That simple. I don't need it, but it's fun trying to squeeze out every bit of profit from every UBER dollar. And if you Uberrat can actually make $23 an hour, unlike most of the guys that net $23 a day, you should be charging to teach an UBER budget management class.
     
  20. One Star

    One Star Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Ontario
    Driving:
    Taxi
    So basically your form of networking is poaching private clients from the Uber platform and from other work fed to you through Yell-Niagara or whatever other dispatching service you are affiliated with and dividing it up between you and your buddies.

    So when they call you direct, and you take them on runs "off platform", what per km rate are you charging them, or are you running by the hour?
     

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