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At fault accident, not driving for ubereats at the time.

Jmat10

New Member
I do UberEats only and was in an at fault accident about 6 months ago.

It was a case of my car hydroplaning and there were no injuries. I was also not on the app with UberEats at the time.

My question is, will my account be deactivated? I just logged on and everything was fine and I could accept rides.

So is this a don't ask don't tell situation? I only do eats and don't do PAX so I'm wondering if it will even matter.
 

Irishjohn831

Well-Known Member
Why would your account be deactivated if you were not ticketed, fined, arrested, etc ?

You had an accident off hours and when you day at fault, is that your opinion as my state, NY is a no fault state
 

#professoruber

Well-Known Member
Rule #1: Anything that happens, Uber should be the last to know on or off app. Don’t ever voluntarily give up information. The minute you report an accident, they will likely deactivate you until they investigate.

Rule #2: Understand what Uber looks at in regards to tickets and accidents.

Rule #3: Get an attorney to keep that ticket off your record. This applies being a Uber driver or not.
 

Mista T

Well-Known Member
Author
Eventually Uber will do another background check (supposedly), at which time your issue will be brought to their attention, and you will be judged by the great AI program that rules our fates. Until then, they don't know anything.
 

SuzeCB

Well-Known Member
Rule #1: Anything that happens, Uber should be the last to know on or off app. Don’t ever voluntarily give up information. The minute you report an accident, they will likely deactivate you until they investigate.

Rule #2: Understand what Uber looks at in regards to tickets and accidents.

Rule #3: Get an attorney to keep that ticket off your record. This applies being a Uber driver or not.
While I agree with this in my heart of hearts, it should be mentioned that drivers are contractually bound to report any and all traffic tickets and accidents, whether or not they occur while on the app.

If you do, they may deactivate you immediately, pending the outcome of the ticket, or their evaluation of whether or not the accident was minor.

If you don't, they may deactivate you for breach of contract once they do the next annual or "random" background check.

You have to decide for yourself what is best for you to do, depending on your own circumstances.
 

uberdriverfornow

Well-Known Member
While I agree with this in my heart of hearts, it should be mentioned that drivers are contractually bound to report any and all traffic tickets and accidents, whether or not they occur while on the app.

If you do, they may deactivate you immediately, pending the outcome of the ticket, or their evaluation of whether or not the accident was minor.

If you don't, they may deactivate you for breach of contract once they do the next annual or "random" background check.

You have to decide for yourself what is best for you to do, depending on your own circumstances.
The only time you report an accident to a tnc is if the accident happened while the app was on and that's because Uber's insurance is liable.

We are independent contractors. We are under no obligation to give Uber any information about anything if we don't want to.

If the accident shows up on his MVR, will Uber take action when they finally see it ? Maybe, maybe not.
 

SuzeCB

Well-Known Member
The only time you report an accident to a tnc is if the accident happened while the app was on and that's because Uber's insurance is liable.


We are independent contractors. We are under no obligation to give Uber any information about anything if we don't want to.
If you are driving, you signed the agreement to tell them about ALL "incidents"...
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RoWode12

Well-Known Member
Do not tell EVER...unless a pax is in the car. Rip all trade dress off the car before anyone gets there. Turn off the app.

You will be deactivated if you tell. It’s none of their business if you get in an accident with no pax. Report damage to your personal insurance.
 

SuzeCB

Well-Known Member
First, just because they put in the contract doesn't make it legally required. If they added that we all have to give them a $1 million dollars when we sign up does that mean we have to ?

Second, what do you got for the other 49 states ?
Eh. It would mean they could bar access to the app until the $1M was paid...

And good catch. I was so focused on the meat of the text that I didn't notice it was state-specific. Thank you.
 

SEAL Team 5

Well-Known Member
If you are driving, you signed the agreement to tell them about ALL "incidents"...
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Not ALL "incidents", it says to report all new arrest, charges and convictions. OP wasn't arrested, charged or convicted. Rather he was cited for a traffic complaint. Unless the traffic citation has the word criminal you don't have to report it. It's a civil complaint.

During the initial court appearance in a civil complaint the judge ask you how do you plea? A response of guilty or not guilty is not an option the judge allows from the defendant. Your only response is responsible or not responsible.
 

Mista T

Well-Known Member
Author
Why would you tell Uber when you do something wrong?

Did they tell you about things they did wrong?

Lies, thefts, lies, data hack, lies... play by their rules. Don't say anything until you are busted.
 

SuzeCB

Well-Known Member
Not ALL "incidents", it says to report all new arrest, charges and convictions. OP wasn't arrested, charged or convicted. Rather he was cited for a traffic complaint. Unless the traffic citation has the word criminal you don't have to report it. It's a civil complaint.

During the initial court appearance in a civil complaint the judge ask you how do you plea? A response of guilty or not guilty is not an option the judge allows from the defendant. Your only response is responsible or not responsible.
Traffic isn't civil. Civil is a lawsuit. A traffic ticket is a misdemeanor except for the few (dui/dwi) that rise to more firmly criminal. A ticket is "in lieu of arrest". Basically, an arrest where they don't take you into custody because on the criminal scale, it's so low.
 

SEAL Team 5

Well-Known Member
Traffic isn't civil. Civil is a lawsuit. A traffic ticket is a misdemeanor except for the few (dui/dwi) that rise to more firmly criminal. A ticket is "in lieu of arrest".
I don't think that you would make a good attorney.

Minor Criminal and Civil Traffic Violations
Preparing for your Civil Traffic Hearing
  • Hearings are similar to trials, but no Prosecutor is present to represent the state. Instead a Hearing Officer or Judge will question you, the Police Officer and other witnesses to find out what happened.
  • To find you responsible, the Hearing Officer or Judge must listen to the facts presented at your hearing and decide whether it is more probable than not that you committed the traffic violations alleged on your complaint.
  • In a civil traffic hearing, the burden of proof required for a Hearing Officer or Judge to make a finding of responsible is less than at a criminal trial.
  • The Hearing Officer's or Judge's ruling will be based upon the testimony and facts presented at your trial or hearing.


Sentencing

  • If you are found "Responsible/Guilty," the Hearing Officer or Judge will state your penalty. This penalty may be different from the amount listed on the Fine Schedule given to you by the Police Officer.
 

Sariandan

Member
I don't think that you would make a good attorney.

Minor Criminal and Civil Traffic Violations
As uberdriverfornow said to SuzeCB , what do you have for the other 49 states?

In the states I have lived, including Arizona, a traffic citation is a "summons" to appear in court. It is given to you in lieu of being arrested and taken to jail. Basically, instead of being taken to jail and waiting to see a judge to set a bond, you skip the intermediate steps and are immediately released on your own recognizance.

Don't you watch Law and Order? Come on...… :p
 

SEAL Team 5

Well-Known Member
Traffic isn't civil. Civil is a lawsuit.
I found the correct definition of a CIVIL traffic violation. I don't see the word lawsuit any place in the definition. Maybe you know different. Please share.


  1. Civil traffic violations
    Civil traffic violations are violations of traffic law without personal injury or substantial damages. A civil traffic violation is an offense for which the only sentence authorized is a fine. This could include non-moving violations such as a city parking violation. However, generally this is a correctable violation.
    Civil Traffic Violations: Lawyers and At…
    www.trafficviolationlawfirms.com/Civil-Traffic-Viol…

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