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I've noticed lately people rarely wait on the curb anymore. It's summertime and I drive at night, so it's not like weather is an issue.
I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing. I've made it a habit of shutting off my car after 10 seconds if they aren't out by then.
The reason I appreciate curb-standers is because Uber Nav always seems a house or two off, and sometimes it doesn't even say if it's on the left or right side.
Since it is nighttime, its usually very hard if not impossible to see house numbers, and people around here don't like putting them on mailboxes for some odd reason.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
People who live in apartments RARELY text or call with the building and apartment number.
I think you can actually set an apartment number on the pax app, but I've only seen it a few times.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
This happens to me sometimes, usually a pax will text or call and depending on the surge or trip length and depending on how their tone is I’ll move to find the right building number/side due to the gps inaccuracy. However I’ve gotten texts that say “Hurry up” or “I’m right here” or even one time “drive back dummy” in which I stay my happy behind right in my spot that the app told me to go ..
blame cancelling paying higher or blame app/pax stupidity
This happens to me sometimes, usually a pax will text or call and depending on the surge or trip length and depending on how their tone is I'll move to find the right building number/side due to the gps inaccuracy. However I've gotten texts that say "Hurry up" or "I'm right here" or even one time "drive back dummy" in which I stay my happy behind right in my spot that the app told me to go ..
blame cancelling paying higher or blame app/pax stupidity
If you want to get them outside, let them know you're there. The rider app is not necessarily accurate in showing a pax where you are or how long it will take before you arrive. I had one show me while she was already sitting in the back seat that the app showed I was still 3 minutes away.
Of course, if you want to shuffle them if they don't make the official 5 minute window, that's always an option. However, if you'd rather have the ride (which, let's face it, will probably pay you more), you can send the pax a voice-to-text message through the app immediately upon arrival -- "your Uber is outside" or something to that effect. If they don't make the 5 minute window after that, it's all on them.
Of course, if you want to shuffle them if they don't make the official 5 minute window, that's always an option. However, if you'd rather have the ride (which, let's face it, will probably pay you LESS),
I've noticed lately people rarely wait on the curb anymore. It's summertime and I drive at night, so it's not like weather is an issue.
I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing. I've made it a habit of shutting off my car after 10 seconds if they aren't out by then.
The reason I appreciate curb-standers is because Uber Nav always seems a house or two off, and sometimes it doesn't even say if it's on the left or right side.
Since it is nighttime, its usually very hard if not impossible to see house numbers, and people around here don't like putting them on mailboxes for some odd reason.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
People who live in apartments RARELY text or call with the building and apartment number.
I think you can actually set an apartment number on the pax app, but I've only seen it a few times.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
I've noticed lately people rarely wait on the curb anymore. It's summertime and I drive at night, so it's not like weather is an issue.
I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing. I've made it a habit of shutting off my car after 10 seconds if they aren't out by then.
The reason I appreciate curb-standers is because Uber Nav always seems a house or two off, and sometimes it doesn't even say if it's on the left or right side.
Since it is nighttime, its usually very hard if not impossible to see house numbers, and people around here don't like putting them on mailboxes for some odd reason.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
People who live in apartments RARELY text or call with the building and apartment number.
I think you can actually set an apartment number on the pax app, but I've only seen it a few times.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
I've noticed lately people rarely wait on the curb anymore. It's summertime and I drive at night, so it's not like weather is an issue.
I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing. I've made it a habit of shutting off my car after 10 seconds if they aren't out by then.
The reason I appreciate curb-standers is because Uber Nav always seems a house or two off, and sometimes it doesn't even say if it's on the left or right side.
Since it is nighttime, its usually very hard if not impossible to see house numbers, and people around here don't like putting them on mailboxes for some odd reason.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
People who live in apartments RARELY text or call with the building and apartment number.
I think you can actually set an apartment number on the pax app, but I've only seen it a few times.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
"I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing."
?There's Nothing for Uber's clients to "Figure Out"
It's Uber Policy that You Agree To Every-time U accept a ping.
GPS inaccuracy can be Rectified by Driver txting Uber's client for confirmation of location.
If that's too much work for below minimum wages I understand Apple, Google and Amazon are hiring engineers ???
People who live in apts rarely are ready to go. They rarely give the gate code and i return the favor in spades. If they arent there by the time deadline they are canceled. Especially these morons who order pool express or pool. Only advantage is i only have to waste 2 min instead of 5. I cancel about 75% express pools,they want a cheaper ride and refuse to walk to the pick up. Im not driving anywhere else but the pick up. It is not fair to my current passangers,my requested future passangers waiting for me,but mostly its disrespectful to me. I dont care if you are on your way,you better be here in 22 seconds when the timer runs down. Keep on not tipping drivers and watch the service from the driver drop to zero. F these people.
I don't know what the fee structure is where you are, but in my neck of the woods it's a $3.52 cancel fee to me and $3.66 to me for the minimum ride; obviously both are pathetic and neither are "worth it", but there's nothing lower than the show-up/cancel fee.
by cancelling at least you aren't having to use your own gas, using your time, depreciating your car, or having to deal with paxoles as you drive them a couple blocks away to the Walmart. It is MUCH better to cancel in terms of profit margins and as long as you are considered an independent contractor that is all you should focus on.
That is f---ing disgraceful. I just don't see how anybody could be making any money at that rate. Under the busiest conditions, doing more than 4 rides in a hour is practically impossible; that's $9.80 an hour maximum, before any expenses are taken into consideration.
minus employee and employer taxes, depreciation of your personal car, your time, your gas, your insurance, your phone charges, etc.. It is below minimum wage anyway one tries to dress it up. Put lipstick on a pig and its still a pig eh.
by cancelling at least you aren't having to use your own gas, using your time, depreciating your car, or having to deal with paxoles as you drive them a couple blocks away to the Walmart. It is MUCH better to cancel in terms of profit margins and as long as you are considered an independent contractor that is all you should focus on.
minus employee and employer taxes, depreciation of your personal car, your time, your gas, your insurance, your phone charges, etc.. It is below minimum wage anyway one tries to dress it up. Put lipstick on a pig and its still a pig eh.
Worse than that.
It's really not a "wage"
You're actually borrowing money against your asset (the car) not earning.
Reason why FT careerist Uber Drivers end up homeless.
FT driver can't save ? money,
subsequently the first big unaffordable repair or catastrophic event of the asset
forces them into destitution and on the street.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
I am Uber pro. But it's useless. You don't see where you are going. It just says "going north" basically. I don't know if it's going three blocks or going to Canada.
Highrise apartments = might as well shuffle them. By the time they come down most of the time you are in cancel fee territory any way.
Regular apartments, can still BS around or swing around the corner of where they are if you don't see them for a few minutes then decide to pick up or shuffle.
I've noticed lately people rarely wait on the curb anymore. It's summertime and I drive at night, so it's not like weather is an issue.
I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing. I've made it a habit of shutting off my car after 10 seconds if they aren't out by then.
The reason I appreciate curb-standers is because Uber Nav always seems a house or two off, and sometimes it doesn't even say if it's on the left or right side.
Since it is nighttime, its usually very hard if not impossible to see house numbers, and people around here don't like putting them on mailboxes for some odd reason.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
People who live in apartments RARELY text or call with the building and apartment number.
I think you can actually set an apartment number on the pax app, but I've only seen it a few times.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
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This is where the pax indicator ( yellow man) is used. You cannot see the building numbers day or night. I get in the general area of the pick up and turn on the hazards. They will find you. Use the tools that you have.
I've noticed lately people rarely wait on the curb anymore. It's summertime and I drive at night, so it's not like weather is an issue.
I think people have figured out wait time costs nothing. I've made it a habit of shutting off my car after 10 seconds if they aren't out by then.
The reason I appreciate curb-standers is because Uber Nav always seems a house or two off, and sometimes it doesn't even say if it's on the left or right side.
Since it is nighttime, its usually very hard if not impossible to see house numbers, and people around here don't like putting them on mailboxes for some odd reason.
But my main complaint is apartment complexes.
People who live in apartments RARELY text or call with the building and apartment number.
I think you can actually set an apartment number on the pax app, but I've only seen it a few times.
So if they are at building 8, the Uber App might show it as building 7 (due to GPS inaccuracy).
Or..the building has a side facing two streets, and it is pointing towards street A, but their entrance is actually on street B.
I've had a few pax get mad because I've cancelled after the timer runs out..but it is not my fault you didn't tell me which building/number you are at.
Yup, they know Uber gives them a 2-5 min. grace period. And most riders simply drop the pin for the pickup - they're too lazy to enter their actual address. Yeah, let the driver figure that out with the help of Uber Nav (good luck). As you said, it may guide you to the address which is the back street or the adjacent building. Very often, it gets you to the wrong side of the street. Uber's attitude is the same: let the driver figure it out. Then, there is the issue with "No Stopping" zones. Riders don't GAF if you may get a citation. Riders don't even care to leave the porch light on - let alone illuminate the house no. One rider gave me 3-stars just 'cos I arrived on the wrong side of the street - even though I risked a U-turn and did pick him up on his side.
That might be a good idea if your a taxi. In NYC, 50 cents/min is the charge for waiting.
That's $30/hr. Even in our city, it's $25/hr.
With uber..you get 60 cents/min..for two whole minutes. Uber's pay for waiting after that is 8.64 cents per minute, or $5.18 per hour, which is not even minimum wage.
After the wait time times out, your being paid about 5 dollars an hour. It makes no sense to stick around beyond that.
Taxi's do not go out of their way to find people, you should not either.
I'm not going to play search, a rider can state exactly where they are with a message in a non-smartallic tone if their building is complicated, since they are the one requesting the ride
so today did only like 7 rides. all were tipped out on app. then the last one was a pool express,he was a 4.81 i usually dont take it unless they are a 4.9....lesson learned again nothing unusual just top notch safe delivery to the drop..my reward? a 3 star rating and a write up for service,relly mf'r? im so sick of these ******bags....naturally no tip as well....i usually dont pick up pools unless they are at least 4.9 and x at 4.8,i usually get matched with highly rated passangers ,but it was a bit slow so i took it....i should know better...wont happen again..in fact i know exactly how to play these fools,whenever i dont get tipped from a regular passanger ill make sure to time out the next fool who orders pool...im sick of this disrespect...f these people lol....the new mantra for all drivers subjected to knuckle heads is "f these people "....after that i said screw this went to the casino and made more in 20 min then i can make in two days slaveing away for these ungrateful d@@@s
yeah here in vegas the apt complexes are often 400/500 units how about a heads up d@@kwad
I don't know what the fee structure is where you are, but in my neck of the woods it's a $3.52 cancel fee to me and $3.66 to me for the minimum ride; obviously both are pathetic and neither are "worth it", but there's nothing lower than the show-up/cancel fee.
When it pays more for shuffling than minimum fare, the system is messed up. I savage Pool and Express requests when I rarely take them. 1:50 and I start rolling out.
When it pays more for shuffling than minimum fare, the system is messed up. I savage Pool and Express requests when I rarely take them. 1:50 and I start rolling out.
I love when im on one side they are on the other and refuse to cross the street lol..at this point no matter what im not letting then in the car so they can 1 star me, f these people !
I am Uber pro. But it's useless. You don't see where you are going. It just says "going north" basically. I don't know if it's going three blocks or going to Canada.
I love when im on one side they are on the other and refuse to cross the street lol..at this point no matter what im not letting then in the car so they can 1 star me, f these people !
Not quite an apartment story, but pretty relevant enough.
Was waiting at metro station for lady. She did 2 nonos.
1. Called me and let me know that she was still travelling on the train and hadn't even made it to the station yet. With Lyft that call means I've already got the mandatory call I need to shuffle you. All the work is already done.
2. She explained that she would be there in 1 or 2 minutes.
I waited 1 or 2 minutes and timer definitely ran out with the no show option available. Who knows if she was even off the train yet. Had what i needed, got my 5 bucks. Sucks they don't have a DC metro station where I live. Then I'd get 7 bucks.
That is @@@@ing disgraceful. I just don't see how anybody could be making any money at that rate. Under the busiest conditions, doing more than 4 rides in a hour is practically impossible; that's $9.80 an hour maximum, before any expenses are taken into consideration.
There are a few reasons why I'd rather wait for someone.
First is that I'll get more if I drive instead of cancelling. And while you can tell me that my cost is higher if I drive, that ignores that I'm actually TRYING to use up my car. I have two cars (Thanks, Hurricane Harvey) and don't want to take the loss of selling one of them. I'd rather get paid to use it up. So the cost of operating it is not a deterrent to me.
Second, I may have downtime instead of another trip right away.
Third, I actually enjoy driving. Contrary to most of you whiners.
Fourth, I like people. I enjoy meeting new people and chatting them up while they're in my car. Again, contrary to most of the complainers on here.
Fifth, I get paid to wait. That's right, I'm getting paid to sit there, if I manage to find them, even if it's 10 minutes later. That's the best of both worlds, because I get paid to do nothing (apparently the goal of most of you guys) followed by getting paid to drive, which I enjoy.
Dont assume..people have all sorts of reasons. I agree on most of yournpoints,however i dont need the money ,the respect is my issue, the poor attitudes and the presumption that i am at their beckncall...i have been doing this for quite a while and im starting to grow tired of it,forget the money...these people are mostly mooching ******bags who expect 5 star service and have np in not returning the courtesy...its been a long road descending into the basement perhaps i will get off before we reach the bottm...
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