A disturbing story regarding unemployment insurance and gig workers.

JustTreatMeFair

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To summarize...... Can you turn on the app and go online?

No unemployment for you.

We've been told the state is waiting on directions from the labor department and here it seems the labor department has decided that if UBER is still providing the service and we can log on that we are still "employed".

There is the part where unemployment is supposed to be available when earnings are greatly curtailed because of a disaster but I can't find anyone talking about that.


 

Ziggy

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To summarize...... Can you turn on the app and go online?

No unemployment for you.

We've been told the state is waiting on directions from the labor department and here it seems the labor department has decided that if UBER is still providing the service and we can log on that we are still "employed".
Thanks for the update. Possibly RideAustin drivers can still claim UI since RideAustin app has been officially been taken offline.
 

wilsonz83

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That would be a blow out for so many people waiting to get their check. I was thinking that was too good to be true.
 

JustTreatMeFair

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Uber is not going to openly assist the process as an Employer would but they have added a number of reports that have the data everyone will need if it becomes relevant. Log into UBER website and go to the tax information page and you will see reports that were never there before.

To be frank, and I hate to side with UBER on any of it, Self Employed are supposedly eligible and have no one to prove their income other than themselves, bank statements and tax returns. A Realtor brings in a good amount of money annually and there are brokers that are not taking the commission and then disbursing it which would put the broker as someone issuing a 1099. The realtor gets paid at closing by the Title office and they do not generate a 1099 either. It's up to the realtor to properly report his income.

This problem though is not so much Congress or the Senate. They rushed to do something in their typical manner without including mandates/laws that would ensure what they want is carried out.

This particular problem could easily be solved with Trump directing the Secretary of Labor to f**king do what was meant to be done. If it does not get resolved the Dems will crucify him over this in the long run and gain votes they may not normally get.
 

Noonespecial

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I would defend Uber here too, they got a socialist bailout. The problem is they dont have the manpower to deal with this and their lawyers are making sure they dont act too much like an employer. As a contractor you should be able to furnish proof of income on your own. It all comes down to the state and federal governments greenlighting it all. Its not Ubers fault. Remember, they are also losing a shiitload of revenue.
In Texas, we just have state AND federal government that dont care one bit about people over businesses and they constantly get re elected anyways.
So, in November, yall go vote for the same people and get the same ole shiit!!

Im pretty sure Gov assshat isnt too concerned about contractors getting unemployment. He would rather increase the body count by a few hundred to get the money flowing again.

 

AustinAD99

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Anyone else get a $5 payment from Lyft this past week?
I did.
They had sent me an email a week prior saying that "Ooops, we somehow didn't pay you for a canceled ride (from who knows when - data not given) and that they'd be paying me this week.

Just seems fishy to me as I've always had to fight to get a 'forgotten' cancel payment in the past and this is a FIRST for them to retroactively find the cancelled ride all on their own.

Makes me wonder if this $5 payment will show TWC that I'm still 'working'.
Wouldn't put it past these asshats at Lyft.
 

Ziggy

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Anyone else get a $5 payment from Lyft this past week?
I did.
They had sent me an email a week prior saying that "Ooops, we somehow didn't pay you for a canceled ride (from who knows when - data not given) and that they'd be paying me this week.

Just seems fishy to me as I've always had to fight to get a 'forgotten' cancel payment in the past and this is a FIRST for them to retroactively find the cancelled ride all on their own.

Makes me wonder if this $5 payment will show TWC that I'm still 'working'.
Wouldn't put it past these asshats at Lyft.
I got a few $ too. But since I haven't taken a pax trip since March 15th and I have the documentation to prove it ... that's what I'm sticking on my UI application.
Uber is not going to openly assist the process as an Employer would but they have added a number of reports that have the data everyone will need if it becomes relevant. Log into UBER website and go to the tax information page and you will see reports that were never there before.
I just saw & downloaded the "Monthly" reports ... thanks
 

JaredJ

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I highly doubt they'll deny unemployment just because the app works. The guidelines also state if COVID has reduced your ability to work as a qualifying factor. The guidance was taken down from the DOL website.
 

uberfoulup

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To summarize...... Can you turn on the app and go online?

No unemployment for you.

We've been told the state is waiting on directions from the labor department and here it seems the labor department has decided that if UBER is still providing the service and we can log on that we are still "employed".

There is the part where unemployment is supposed to be available when earnings are greatly curtailed because of a disaster but I can't find anyone talking about that.


After trying for 2 weeks I finally got an email from TWC suggesting that I try to log on again. I did and was able to submit an unemployment request based on Covid-19 relief. I didn't have to try and call in. I submitted the form as a self employed rideshare driver. In other words I did not claim to work for Uber. I claimed myself as my employer. The process ask you to send tax forms for 2019, SCH 1040, Sch C , and Sch SE which I emailed to them.
We will see if they approve this. I have my doubts.
 

Ziggy

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After trying for 2 weeks I finally got an email from TWC suggesting that I try to log on again. I did and was able to submit an unemployment request based on Covid-19 relief. I didn't have to try and call in. I submitted the form as a self employed rideshare driver. In other words I did not claim to work for Uber. I claimed myself as my employer. The process ask you to send tax forms for 2019, SCH 1040, Sch C , and Sch SE which I emailed to them.
We will see if they approve this. I have my doubts.
Great ... albeit, I haven't completed 2019 tax forms yet ... I guess I have to get cranking on that.

Another friend filed as a self-employed rideshare driver and he was told to email his 1099s to TWC.

So it appears there are several ways TWC is gathering the data they need to start paying up.

Good luck all.
 

AustinAD99

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Yeah, filled out the app last week and need to send in my 2019 taxes.

Great, WTF good is the 90 day extension for filing your taxes?

I always do the extension to push filing to Oct 15th.
As per an accountant who worked with IRS for years - apparently this drastically reduces your chance of random audits - as they've already selected those lucky winners from the timely chumps.
 

wilsonz83

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Yeah, filled out the app last week and need to send in my 2019 taxes.

Great, WTF good is the 90 day extension for filing your taxes?

I always do the extension to push filing to Oct 15th.
As per an accountant who worked with IRS for years - apparently this drastically reduces your chance of random audits - as they've already selected those lucky winners from the timely chumps.
I've always filed tax at February and never got an audit, my sister in law asked for extension last year and she got audit.

It depends on how your file your taxes, if you have very high deduction that trigger the audit automatically,there's no people hand picking who to audit. Don't get so greedy and you will be fine.

And I got this information from someone who actually was a part of the team that designed the automated system.
 

JustTreatMeFair

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From what I understand audits are typically triggered by a deviation from norms.

A ride share driver claiming the standard mileage deduction zeroing out 80-90% most of what he earned driving seems to be an established norm.

A Ride Share driver itemizing and zeroing out everything he earns driving as well as a part of his regular income might trigger an audit.

A Ride Share driver claiming a home office deduction with no other job to justify one might trigger one.
 

wilsonz83

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BTW You don't 'ask' for an extension - you just file a Form 4868.
oh right. You are not asking for an extension, you just file a form so you can file your tax later.
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From what I understand audits are typically triggered by a deviation from norms.

A ride share driver claiming the standard mileage deduction zeroing out 80-90% most of what he earned driving seems to be an established norm.

A Ride Share driver itemizing and zeroing out everything he earns driving as well as a part of his regular income might trigger an audit.

A Ride Share driver claiming a home office deduction with no other job to justify one might trigger one.
Exactly, some times being too greedy and not willing to pay a cent of tax could trigger It.
 
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SpartanJKM

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Greetings, all! I’m a NYC cabdriver who is in the same boat with my fellow for-hire drivers. I miss my visits to San Antonio where my grandparents lived in the Air Force Village. Indeed, this was very threatening news that came out Saturday with Scalia’s narrowing of the guideline for us gig-workers, but the democrats stepped up first thing this morning! I am indeed one of the drivers who make a decent living as a self-employer who receives a 1099-MISC and 1099-K (the K means they just record the credit card amounts; NYC is the one place a cab driver is not being put out of business, as long as he/she stays away from mortgaging medallions right now!), but the COVID-19 crisis afflicted business to where it has plummeted by about 80% of the average weekly workload! Part 6 below deals with us - with auspicious specificity!


I’m glad this was put forth so quickly! 👍
 

uberfoulup

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So, after filling out an application I logged back in a day later and there was a completely different form, that seemed more directed at the Covid-19 relief package. I filled that out and submitted it. The next day I got what looks like a statement that I will receive $207 per week. Nothing about the extra $600 per week stimulus. The new form asked that bank and tax records be mailed to downtown Austin. And if I do not send in the bank and tax records, the payments will stop. I did that today. Also today the website is saying that they will notify me when I am supposed to look for work. It is not yet a requirement. And tomorrow I can request the first payment. It seems you have to keep requesting payments every 2 weeks I think.
 
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