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➡️ Uber intends to Treat Drivers as contractors Despite California bill

MiamiKid

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The insider info on this is that Uber will NOT honor W2 status. Independent contractor status to remain for the foreseeable future.
 

uberdriverfornow

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Those pesky founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves of the knew what a swamp our government has become.
you're being way too hard on texas
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The insider info on this is that Uber will NOT honor W2 status. Independent contractor status to remain for the foreseeable future.
that's not a surprise, Uber has shown it thinks laws and regulation don't apply to it

that's why it is constantly being sued and has such a bad public image
 

dnlbaboof

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there is literally no way on demand labor works with employee status. Uber will have to make a totally new app just for CA. Either they stay IC or they leave. All the whiners who lied and said they only make 4 bucks an hour will cry if uber leaves the state due to over regulation.
 

MiamiKid

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you're being way too hard on texas
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that's not a surprise, Uber has shown it thinks laws and regulation don't apply to it

that's why it is constantly being sued and has such a bad public image
Very subjective
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there is literally no way on demand labor works with employee status. Uber will have to make a totally new app just for CA. Either they stay IC or they leave. All the whiners who lied and said they only make 4 bucks an hour will cry if uber leaves the state due to over regulation.
Well stated.
 

Cold Fusion

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you're being way too hard on texas
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that's not a surprise, Uber has shown it thinks laws and regulation don't apply to it

that's why it is constantly being sued and has such a bad public image
Texas represents more of what the founders envisioned for government than any other state other than West Virginia
 

uberdriverfornow

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there is literally no way on demand labor works with employee status. Uber will have to make a totally new app just for CA. Either they stay IC or they leave. All the whiners who lied and said they only make 4 bucks an hour will cry if uber leaves the state due to over regulation.
If Uber needed drivers on schedules, drivers would already be on schedules.

The whole schedule nonsense is just Ubers way of blackmailing drivers into going against AB5.
 

jocker12

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they BELONG ON THE BUS, poor people aren't stupid theyre just poor chauffeur & private driver is NOT in their budget if you can't afford a car you CAN'T afford a chauffeur, cabs are not meant to be taken daily to school, church, shopping, work. People with 10 DUIs, suspended licenses, alcoholics, bad drivers do not and cannot afford a private driver.
This is very correct. Rideshare companies need to educate the riders how going from door to door in a 4 door car with a designated driver is a commodity.

Also, despite many drivers quitting or driving less and less because of the ridiculously low rates, there are still way too many rideshare drivers on the roads. This is the time when, if done right, drivers could be selected to meet a certain professional standard to provide a professional service in order to compete on the market. Based on individual ratings, individual service history, and own vehicles, drivers could be recategorized and allowed to operate under new standards.

Also, both companies need to rewrite their app code (at least in CA), because the new status would force them to provide riders to the active drivers on the roads, even if they'll probably remove the "accept" option, automatically adding the ride to drivers queue.
 

Demon

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they BELONG ON THE BUS, poor people aren't stupid theyre just poor chauffeur & private driver is NOT in their budget if you can't afford a car you CAN'T afford a chauffeur, cabs are not meant to be taken daily to school, church, shopping, work. People with 10 DUIs, suspended licenses, alcoholics, bad drivers do not and cannot afford a private driver.

No ones asking for 2.75 that's a fair xl rate but around $1.50 is whats fair & legal it's about minimum wage after ALL actual expenses if you want safe cars, safe drivers, that carry legal insurance.

I don't work for childrens wages, or risk my life for charity, the math flunkies, super scabs, desperate who do are part of the problem
At the current rates they can afford it.
 

luckytown

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If something is messed up and needs fixing, the last person you want to fix it is a politician. AB5 just proved that.
What the hell is so hard about this......you are either an employee or an independent contractor....choose....but you have to be able to do the fuctions of the classification....not one or the other when it suits you
 

SuperDumped

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At the current rates they can afford it.
not if they're not tipping $5+ like 40+% of my xl riders do on $70+ fares but thats why im 90+% xl only and been of x since 1st jan 2016 cuts but drivers keep accepting them so algo says how low can we go and pool x mope keep telling it please sir can i have another & here we are lol
 

rkozy

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What the hell is so hard about this......you are either an employee or an independent contractor....choose.
That's the problem here. Drivers want guaranteed compensation like an employee receives, but the freedom to choose their own schedule, like an independent contractor has.

Having your cake and eating it to seems to be a problem for both sides of this argument. I'd prefer having the freedom to set my own hours and reject/accept rides of my choosing, even if it means no guaranteed hourly wage.
 

dnlbaboof

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you can make decent money in CA just drive rush hours/events barhopping hours youll make around 20 plus an hour. This is supposed to be a side gig, people are expecting to make doctor money for this job where all you need is a car basically. Do I think a min rate per mile should be enacted, sure maybe a buck per mile. But many drivers want to make 100 an hour if you want that much get another job, become a doctor.

And this bill does nothing to increase driver pay, youll lose money, your AGI will skyrocket without the mileage deduction. Youll lose your obamacare with not being able to deduct miles, youll lose your independence to drive when and where you want, forget about stop trips dest filter, youll have to drive in certain areas and maintain a 100% acceptance rate, or youre fired. You can bet if drivers are employees, leech employees are going to park there car set the dest one mile away and make money by just sitting there LOL. Say bye to the dest filter. This bill is awful.
 
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Demon

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you can make decent money in CA just drive rush hours/events barhopping hours youll make around 20 plus an hour. This is supposed to be a side gig, people are expecting to make doctor money for this job where all you need is a car basically. Do I think a min rate per mile should be enacted, sure maybe a buck per mile. But many drivers want to make 100 an hour if you want that much get another job, become a doctor.

And this bill does nothing to increase driver pay, youll lose money, your AGI will skyrocket without the mileage deduction. Youll lose your obamacare with not being able to deduct miles, youll lose your independence to drive when and where you want, forget about stop trips dest filter, youll have to drive in certain areas and maintain a 100% acceptance rate, or youre fired. You can bet if drivers are employees, leech employees are going to park there car set the dest one mile away and make money by just sitting there LOL. Say bye to the dest filter. This bill is awful.
Can’t drive when and where you want now.
 

MiamiKid

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you can make decent money in CA just drive rush hours/events barhopping hours youll make around 20 plus an hour. This is supposed to be a side gig, people are expecting to make doctor money for this job where all you need is a car basically. Do I think a min rate per mile should be enacted, sure maybe a buck per mile. But many drivers want to make 100 an hour if you want that much get another job, become a doctor.

And this bill does nothing to increase driver pay, youll lose money, your AGI will skyrocket without the mileage deduction. Youll lose your obamacare with not being able to deduct miles, youll lose your independence to drive when and where you want, forget about stop trips dest filter, youll have to drive in certain areas and maintain a 100% acceptance rate, or youre fired. You can bet if drivers are employees, leech employees are going to park there car set the dest one mile away and make money by just sitting there LOL. Say bye to the dest filter. This bill is awful.
Exactly right. Mileage deduction is huge. And all these drivers who think they'll love this? Just wait for all deductions coming out of that weekly pay. Nice little reduction on the weekly.

Then, they will just love waiting a year for the tax refund. LOL!

But, hearing from, my sources, that independent contractor status remains, regardless of the bill. 95% guarantee.
 

I will crack Lyft hacks

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there is literally no way on demand labor works with employee status. Uber will have to make a totally new app just for CA. Either they stay IC or they leave. All the whiners who lied and said they only make 4 bucks an hour will cry if uber leaves the state due to over regulation.
Why cry, they can go get the next under paid job. The one who would cry it the one that can’t replace what they loose. We can replace a gig. Can they replace the income of California? Who will be crying? I’m not gonna loose anything by loosing a side gig. Why should I cry. Think about who will actually loose money once no Uber corporate tax brake. Come on, don’t tell the forum it’s me. 😿🙀😹💩
 

goneubering

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If something is messed up and needs fixing, the last person you want to fix it is a politician. AB5 just proved that.
Some drivers think Cali politicians and Uber execs are somehow going to reach a good solution while other drivers want to further complicate the matter by throwing a union into the mix.

I would like to opt out of being an Uber employee. I can see already 2020’s going to be an interesting year.
 

Lee239

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If something is messed up and needs fixing, the last person you want to fix it is a politician. AB5 just proved that.
You mean Uber is going to fix itself and lose more than $57 million a day? You think the drivers have a say in who they get screwed over?
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Uber pays the driver a few bucks like a stranger is bumming a ride from them for gas money.

$15 an hour after expenses is a dream. $15 an hour before expenses could at lease let you get some income instead of using your car as a payday loan and working for free.

California has to shut Uber down if they don'/t abide by the laws and start jailing executives. Time to start locking up the real crooks the white collar crime crooks instead of locking up people who don't commit violent crimes and paying $60K a year to house them.
 
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