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PAX was a girl sneaking out of her parents' house

Discussion in 'Stories' started by Phillip Jones, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. DelaJoe

    DelaJoe Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Delaware
    Driving:
    UberX
    I have taken minors in my Uber...lots of divorced parents out there use Uber to shuttle the kids between houses and avoid contact with the ex.
     
  2. Squirming Like A Toad

    Squirming Like A Toad Well-Known Member

    Location:
    CT
    Driving:
    UberXL
    I get that all the time in the rich suburbs. Fell for it once, never again. Out of my van! If they are sneaking out you are abetting juvenile delinquency which is illegal.

    Also, given their destinations and the fact that it is usually a girl I know she is going someplace to get ****** by a ****** which ****** me off on a different level.
     
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  3. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San francisco
    Not a great idea to take them. On the off chance something happens, uber insurance doesn't cover them. Then your insurance would drop you for driving commercially, then liability falls on the driver.
     
  4. Notch Johnson

    Notch Johnson New Member

    Location:
    Palm Springs, CA
    So maybe the thing to do in contact the pax through the app for verification, If they don't answer then no go.
     
  5. ShawnsUber

    ShawnsUber Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Atlanta
    Driving:
    UberX
    Well, I'm sure this will piss some folks off but I have a different view on this I think then most.

    I was a screw up kid, snuck parents cars out starting at 13 on a regular basis. Would get absolutely wasted and sometimes not even remember where the car OR I was the night before. I was VERY lucky I didn't kill someone else, myself, or get a DUI. In that order.

    So here are MY rules about picking up minors. Never during normal day time hours.
    I'd rather risk a judge/jury for taking a minor somewhere safely after they were responsible enough to call Uber vs the alternative.

    I'm a parent of twin 8 year olds, boy/girl. Both my X and I agree that Uber should get thier act together regarding family plans. I already take 4 kids to and from school every day, the parents pay me whatever on the down low, Uber isn't involved and I have a simple waiver they sign ( just that I'm another parent helping out and they agree to assume all liability should something happen).


    Kids are a HUGE market. Like HUGE. I wouldn't ship my 8 yo's around in an Uber but I sure as hell would once they hit thier teens.
     

  6. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    Believe what you want.
     
  7. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    I've had a few trips that were clearly groups of girls having a sleep over and sneaking out. They both lurked in the dark a few houses down and then popped out to flag me down rushing to get in.

    Girls will be girls.
     
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  8. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    Working illegally for cash without insurance is a terrible idea. Waivers mean little in the best of circumstances and nothing at all when you're committing a crime.
     
  9. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San francisco
    If you are driving with a minor and a hit and run occurs, the pax violates the terms and conditions. Who else is the pax going to get money from? Assuming you don't have timeshare Insurrance. You think an insurrance company is going to tell the passengers parents, "even though you agreed to the t&c regarding minors cannot use the service alone, we will still pay for any medical bills." if you really think that highly of an Insurrance company you are clearly more naive than I thought.
    If there is some way an Insurrance company will get out of paying for anything, they will definitely try.
     
  10. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    So you believe that in the entire history of Uber no unaccompanied minor has been in an accident, wasn't covered by James River, and it didn't make the news? In over 2 billion rides?

    This is almost all myth. Insurance companies are heavily regulated and have written policies. They simply pay what they owe almost every single time. Uber has made payouts that were in the news where they weren't actually liable.

    So, let me make this easy: The driver is insured, not the passenger. It makes no difference what the passenger did do or did not do. They pay for the driver's liability, uninsured motorist, and conditional collision, it has nothing to do with the passenger.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2017 at 1:04 AM
  11. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San francisco
    I never said uber doesn't pay. I said the Insurrance does not. Not sure if you know this but uber is not James river.
    Technically the liability falls on the driver.
     

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  12. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    Which means nothing. The driver didn't agree to that and it's the driver's insurance.

    The driver is insured, not the passenger. It makes no difference what the passenger did do or did not do. They pay for the driver's liability, uninsured motorist, and conditional collision, it has nothing to do with the passenger.
     
  13. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San francisco
    Lol you are so silly. I bet you think a verbal contract between 2 people is also binding if the other person claims they did not agree. Assuming there is no recording evidence
     
  14. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    You don't understand insurance. Liability is liability is liability. If the driver is liable, the insurance pays, period. Who the passenger is and whether they are a minor or even not the pax you were supposed to pick up, they have to pay. Even if someone has stolen someone elses account, they have to pay. It's a contract.

    Show me ONE time James River didn't pay when they were supposed to, because it was a minor, because the driver had the wrong pax, or because it was a hacked account. Just once will do. One out of two billion rides is enough to convince me.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2017 at 1:31 AM
  15. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San francisco
    Lol you are silly and naive.
    I am sorry to for the bad news but the tooth fairy isn't real as well. It was your parents who put that money uber your pillow.
     
  16. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    I'm waiting for your single example out of 2 billion rides or any evidence at all. You could even try to explain how what a pax does wipes out the driver's insurance. Use your big boy words.
     
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  17. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San francisco
    Santa isn't real as well.
    Don't worry though, it is still a fun holiday.
     
  18. observer

    observer Moderator Moderator

    Location:
    long beach
    Depends on the state, in CA you cannot pick up unaccompanied minors.

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    Rules and regulations video training:

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    CPUC information requests:

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    Unaccompanied minors:

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  19. RamzFanz

    RamzFanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Saint Louis
    That's what I thought. You can't.

    Thanks for playing.
     
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  20. dmarusa

    dmarusa New Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX
    See attached pic....
     

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